We had a very pleasant experience with our sales presentation. We attended the presentation at the Branson, Mo facility. Yes, the presentation ran a little longer than the 120 minutes they stated but a lot of that could have been our questions, breaks etc. Our salesperson, Stella, was very knowledgeable and personable. We received all we were promised and additional perks because we did wind up purchasing. We were impressed with the flexibility of using our points and the fact that we weren't locked into a specific unit at a specific time. We look forward to enjoying all the Welk facilities in the future as well as the special "getaway" trips that will come available. After arriving home we did some follow-up research that confirmed we had made the right choice.
I would not, nor would I ever again; refer someone to Welk Resorts for the purchase of a timeshare. It started out with a great presentation (which took about 6-7 hours total) from start to finish. That included the purchase of the timeshare. There were a few major points that we discovered were just morally wrong and misleading about what was said in the presentation versus what was true in reality.
1) That it was a great investment. It's not. In the 4 years and $14,000 plus dollars we've paid to Welk so far, we have been able to use it twice. Each new property that Welk acquires, the "points" needed to get a time slot for that area is so high, what you purchased seems to diminish in value. You end up needing "more" points.
2) Interest Rates. We were told during our presentation that you can refinance a timeshare. You cannot. You can get a loan from another lender, pay off your Welk Balance and pay the lender but you cannot refinance the loan. Welks Interest rates are outrageous and they keep going up. 3) Annual Dues aka: Maintenance Payments - We were told that our payment would be a certain amount. What they don't tell you is that they can be raised every year without telling you. Ours was supposed to be about 1000 a year based on the plan we owned. In the last 2 years, they have raised it by almost 30%.
4) Once you're in, you can't get out without suffering the consequences of hurting your credit for at least 7 years. Welk will not work with you, they will not offer you a buyout, you cannot offer it back to them (we tried), they will not help you in anyway financially. They will not help you with the 15+ percent interest rate. Nope, and once you start to dispute with them, the "collections staff" are rude, have insulted my pregnant wife calling her dumb, unintelligent, and irresponsible; the only happiness and pleasant experience you will get from them is if you are paying them on time. If you're not paying them or are in dispute... good luck. And yes, they actually said those things to her on the phone.
5) Every "owners update" meetings we went to, they made attempts to "hard sell us" in purchasing more points or to get a credit card. Why couldn't they just be updates, I don't know. You would think that paying Welk over $8,000 a year would buy you some stellar customer service and awesome. 6) There are so many "restrictions" on what you can use your points on and time limits and slots, it almost makes it exhausting at times trying to book anything. 7) We were told that Timeshares are tax deductible just like a regular mortgage. They are not; we checked with 2 different certified tax professionals in the State of California.
8) During the presentation at the Escondido location, they told my wife and I in multiple occasions that they own the land that the resort is built on and because of that, there's no "mortgage payment". I say that loosely as I'm not familiar with the exact terminology. They also told us that because of it, that they can be more profitable allowing more opportunity and cost reduction to their points owners. However, we have seen an increase in Annual dues, removal of non-resident privileges for the pool and fitness center, increase in interest rates and increase in points needed for the "newer" properties.
We have tried to play nice with Welk. We tried to amicably resolve our disputes with them but we have discovered that the 5+ people we have spoken to about our complaints and problems have basically (but indirectly) said, "you are screwed. You signed the contract, you are screwed and there's no way out." To my knowledge, Welk will not hold their employees accountable for misleading statements and false reports in their sales presentations and they will defend these falsities to the death.
Sorry, I wish I had better things to say. Had Welk truly and properly acknowledged our complaints and offered us a way out, I would not be writing this. They chose not to. Let me make one thing clear, we signed the contract, we made that mistake but I pray that you don't. Don't sign it until you fully understand what you are signing. You are locking yourself into it permanently.
The "Time Share" experience is worse than a car sales man. If you are unfortunate enough to buy - they forget to mention that each year you are Paying a Maintenance fee that GOES UP every year. This amount for me in Escondido/San Diego was $800 5 years ago. Now in 2017 it's over $1k. If you cannot pay for this outright (no loan) then you shouldn't be buying!!! I have used my timeshare exchange (1) ONCE in all this time with over $25k invested. =( Anyone who wants to buy is only willing to offer me $2,000. I wish I had someone that could have advised me before making such a HUGE mistake.
I'm so glad I found this website so I can tell everyone our experience last year! The "90 minute" presentation turned out to be a 3 hour ordeal. Nice tour of the facilities which were attractive and nice. Presentation itself was professional and no hard sell. It's just over 3 hours for everything. But the worse was the free stuff: We chose the "Free" Southern California Package, how can that get screwed up, right? We had no idea that we would have to pay $100 fee to stay at some local motel that you could not use on a Friday night or a Saturday night (so we couldn't take our kids because of school)--and had to plan minimum 4 months in advance as I recall.
The "Free" tablet had to pay $35 for shipping, which I found the exact same generic Chinese Android tablet on Amazon and it cost--$30 (free shipping)! It was run by a 3rd party company with bad complaints, so we never used any of the "free" gifts. Waste of 4 hours of my life (including round-trip driving). At least the coffee/soda/snacks were good!
I buy one full week at the San Diego location. When they show the resort it was nice but we didn't buy because we own already other timeshare. So I ask if there was a way to pay to stay before we buy. You know what the sales guy said? It’s only today price so we talk to his manager and he sell us one week for $3000.00 7 days. He said, "If you guys buy, we credit back the money to your down payment." I said, “Ok no problem.” When I went to check in, they talk me. “You are staying in the new building.“ So we was very happy on ‘til I hear my son yelling to his brother. The brother open the restroom because didn’t lock so we start to argue but when I check the door, the door was no locking and many other things didn't like. All doors don’t lock. No privacy. Shower drain problems. Sink faucet (lose almost falling). Stove (broken door falling). No tv and internet for all day.
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We are staying two weeks at the Welk Palm Desert Oasis, in Cathedral City. This is our first visit to Palm Springs. Of course, we attended the (obligatory) sales presentation. Our presenter/sales woman, Thea **, was totally awesome. Thea was knowledgeable about the Welk products and upcoming changes. Thea was also very knowledgeable of the sites and things to do in the area. Thank you Thea ** and the Welk group.
We are staying at the Welk Resort in the original villas, they are beautiful, spacious and relaxing. We enjoy our time here. Our rep at the Owner update was really good this time, she was very informative and nice - much better than other experiences we have had in the past!
We really like Welk Resorts! It is one of the better places in town that we like to stay, especially the Mountains Villas, and we often bring people with us when we stay. The Owner Update was good, a little long but Kaiann was awesome, loved her personality and appreciate the information. Thank you!
Pedro was our tour host. He was informative and fun to talk to. He had a lot of stories to share and he was very personable. We really enjoyed him. Other than him, I know that everyone has their job to do but the other guy that came to the table was very persistent, at least he kept it short. I don't want to bring up my financial status every time I say no.
This was our first presentation so this (presentation experience) was unexpected. Our agent was nice, but the person who signed us up told us it was only a tour of the resort. We didn't know that we would be asked to buy today. Our agent worked hard and was informative and really nice.
Today's presentation went well. Brian was our host and he was very good. The experience was pleasant and he did a very good job telling us about the property and showing us around. This was just not for us today.
It (the presentation) ran longer than we were told which is inconvenient because we had other plans. Everything was great. It's just not what we were looking for. The agent was informative and personable, very professional. The area is nice.
I felt the information was presented in a clear way. Facilities were very nice and the Welk's representative was very friendly and informative. I did feel a lot of pressure to purchase by 5 different representatives which we did not enjoy.
Elizabeth was a very kind and professional lady. She was informative and answered all of our questions. We learned a lot about the program and what Welk Resorts has to offer. Overall everything was well and it was a good experience.
We had Leonardo and he was awesome. He is definitely a people person and good for this company. Everything was beautiful, everything was great. Everyone was very nice. Pola was amazing. She definitely kept you entertained. I've done presentations before where you are basically falling asleep but she kept you entertained.
Everything the agent said was very clear, very informative and she was very accommodating. We are not making a purchase today, if we did it would have been a five (star rating). Diedra was good; she was very nice.
Rolando was fantastic; he was professional and amicable. He was absolutely wonderful. He kept asking us "What can I do for you?" He focused on us more than thinking about himself. Everyone was very nice and I will definitely be recommending Welk Resorts to my friends.
On a scale of 1 to 5, I give it a ten. Hortencia was absolutely wonderful. She was very informative and answered all of our questions about the company. I would definitely recommend this to my friends in the future.
The person should have been more informed about why we were here. We were told that we were here for something specific. There was no communication from Welk's part. We've been having great communication with Beth, she is the one that I book with. I have been getting calls from Grace to do a meeting which we finally came to. We went to Tahoe but our baby couldn't go to Tahoe to tour so we came here. The whole program is very much like, ok, you're going to stay at Welk resorts. We only have access to Leisure time Passport, so we need to think about is this something that we want? Are we going to use this to travel and trade in the future? Would like better clarification about the program because we thought we were just going to talk about our impression today.
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The San Diego resort itself is quite nice and they maintain it well. The timeshare people are quite pushy and over the top. The presentation book has mention of 2 resorts to open in the near future. Hawaii to open in 2016 and Breckinridge in spring 2017. We swapped into Lake Tahoe and had a great experience. The timeshare dept there told us no Hawaii now and Breckinridge had slipped to 2019. Over the last 2 months we have called 5 times to use the balance of our points and have emailed once . No one calls back! Just dishonest people selling timeshares. They should not even mention dates on future resorts. The owner should close the dept and start over, they have beautiful resorts but terrible sales departments.
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BUYERS BEWARE!! Unfortunately we were scammed into buying into this time share and it has proven to be the biggest mistake of our lives! I am writing this review and will be writing similar reviews on every social media website I can to try and warn people to stay as far away from ownership in Welk Resorts as possible. We bought our first timeshare last November after being promised the moon from the sales people and unfortunately (as it so often does) it was too good to be true. There were far too many promises they were unable to deliver on to actually list them here. And today is the pinnacle of our experience with Welk Resorts. We have paid every single payment on time as well as our maintenance fees on time until last month and we have been HOUNDED by rude and intrusive associates since.
Today I received another call from a lady named Tina that works at their San Diego office and her customer service was so deplorable we are contacting an attorney to proceed foreclose on this property. She was above and beyond rude! My husband has already made payment arrangements for the late payment and she threatened me with collections and when I asked about having to possibly foreclose with the assistance of an attorney she stated that we should be paying our payments on time and not wasting our money on attorneys and that if we would pay our payments on time then we shouldn't need an attorney.
Again I'm stating that this type of customer service is what we now expect from Welk Resorts after being LATE, not missing, LATE on a single payment. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do yourselves a favor and if you are considering buying into this timeshare DO NOT fall for their schemes and save yourself a lot of money and headaches!!
1st 5 years no problem. This trip room poorly cleaned. Dripping on 8 floor tile. Reported and place paper with arrow on one tile to show location. They only cleaned the one tile. Rest very obvious. They didn't clean sticky stain on fridge and dishwasher. We finally cleaned them ourselves. Front desk called to follow up. We told them what was not done and they wanted us to in to listen to a timeshare trade. Granite counter joint 1/16 inch off. Place not being taken care of. Emphasis solely on selling timeshare trades. Sadly, we won't back.
The tour... Great. The resort... Awesome! The sales tactics... Below bottom basement, psychological stunts that are worse than police tactics to get someone to admit to a crime he/she did not commit. For that reason, I gave them 3-stars. In other words it's a mixed review. So, the sales people start off right at the time of the 90 minutes it's suppose to take to claim. They are going to get your gifts. This takes up to about 3 hours of you saying no, or them saying yes, but they want you to sign a real estate contract without having any period to think about it and give them about $2090 downpayment right now.
Oh yeah, and if your credit is less than perfect, that down payment goes up about $1000.00. They don't tell you that until you look at the contract and notice a change. Now, they are slick. They do have a great resort... But the sales tactics really keep you in there for 5.5-6.00 hours. I missed a visit with my husband's mother who has terminal cancer, and we told them that, we miss our dinner date, and we told them that. Then we went outside, waited in line in the cold when some woman who works there and drives a white car comes past my husband and I, goes to the front of the line, literally looks my husband up & down, and we sit at the back of the go-cart in the dark, in the cold... Wow! I thought, "how rude..." But I laughed!
How can they allow such arrogance in a place like this? If only she knew that look was a testament to the place. In other words if she works there with that attitude and behavior, she ain't the only one. This happened Saturday evening 10/15/2016 about 6:40 pm. She was dropped off to her white car. I believe it was a four door and she had long dark colored hair. She also had like a briefcase with wheels.
It is hilarious that all the negative comments are struck out and all the positive comments are clear and readable. Myself I enjoyed Welk and refused to attend the presentation much to the dislike of the concierge I must say. She actually was rude about it but other than that I loved it, going back next year and will say no to attend the presentation.
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Read very carefully because I will be describing my vacation at the Welk Resort in Escondido in detail. I am a wife and mother of one 3 year old girl. I am a workaholic and when attended the presentation after being promised Six Flags tickets, Disney World tickets and a cruise ship and last but not least an android tablet. The only thing promised was the Six Flags tickets, everything else a scam. And my mother that accompanied me got hooked on a 3000, promotional preview which I told her wasn't a good idea. It is now 8/14/16, and I was right. I arrived with a total of 8 people - one who is my sister in a wheelchair, special needs. I was promised a room with ramp, and to accommodate the 8 people. Arrived and already problems, the room had stairs and fitted 6 people. On top of that racist, I am Mexican and make a great living yet I got treated worse than the ** guest. By the guest and the employees was treated bad.
Let me elaborate, so I am in line and I get cutted by ** folks and the employees saw and did nothing. I am at the pool purchased squirter guns for 3 of my invited guest and a ** guest called me out saying that I took her squirter guns. Thank God I had my receipts. But of all people who had same squirter guns, me. Then this place has no one trained to accommodate wheelchairs, no shade no ramps for wheelchairs waiting for the Damn trolley that takes you around. Trained one old ass man that took longer to put my sister up on the ramp than going to our room.
On the second day got switched to another room, took two hours of my family time moving things because they couldn't get their computers to stop glitches. Arrived to the room and not even clean yet. Gross. But when I went Back to get a charger I forgot to the other room. Come to find out it was all cleaned and ** folks arriving, mean as can be - yelling on why I took two parking space. Because I have a wheelchair and this place doesn't accommodate. In my personal opinion this place is not worth the headaches. Vacation was not a vacation. I can afford better than this and not have a headache. Thank God I didn't get hooked on being owner. I have nothing against ** people, but after being at Welk Resort I felt Trump everywhere. Just sad.
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We attended a presentation in Branson, after signing a paper saying it is a "120-minute commitment." Our sales person was friendly, but after I mentioned we had already been there 2 hours and 45 minutes she said, "Oh, sorry," and went right on. We told her right up front we hated a presentation with high pressure and yet she called over her manager twice to continue to twist our arms after we had already said we were not at all interested. He was insulting. "Well we just thought you had an open mind." And on it went. Even after I stood up to leave they went on. And then, knowing we were very frustrated, we STILL had to sit and wait further for a third person to get the little piece of paper that let us leave in order to get the refund of our deposit and cash for our show tickets.
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Please, anyone reading this review, learn from my mistake. Do not buy a Welk Timeshare. We went to their presentations. They are pretty slick at guiding you along, just as any good salesperson is. We were thinking of all the wonderful things we could do with this timeshare. They boasted on the fact that you could exchange your yearly points in through Interval International and change your one week into 2. What they casually slipped past you was the fact that every time you do that, it will cost you a cool 189 bucks. That and they forgot to mention the fact that there are tons of restrictions.
We are unable to use our points unless we want to pull our children out of school during the middle of the year, and the closest we could get to our destination that we wanted to go was about 8 hours away. I spent 18000 on a timeshare that I am now seriously debating on selling to a company for 1200 just to get out of it. 1300 every 2 years in ownership fees. I could have used that money alone from the fees and gone to the place I wanted to vacation and saved myself 18000. So please, if you read this review, please do not get suckered into buying their scamshare.
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I'd like to thank the high pressure sales tactics of the Welk Branson for pushing me out of a purchase I was more than ready to make. We spent a great afternoon looking at what we thought we was going to be a great investment, a timeshare with the Welk Resorts. I liked the design of the offer, you buy a "unit" and get your points that can be used anywhere at any of their properties. The financial stability of the company looked good upon review, future plans looked good, and the company looked sound.
I liked it, I was sold, until it came down to the end and the "high pressure" tactics of their "supervisor" and backed up by the sales guy whose personal story, although sad, had a number of holes and contradictions. They said that the "special" was available then and only then, no ability to look at paperwork before hand, no ability to leave and come back, no ability to have an attorney or real estate agent review it, no ability to conduct business as is done with every other real estate transaction.
I should have been more suspicious earlier in the presentation when the sales guy said often how he was just a sales guy and he doesn't know the pricing so he used the points system to describe the units. All of the numbers were the "points" that were obviously well rehearsed and all written down on blank paper by hand. Their little workbook was well designed to direct people in the right direction, once again, all hand written info. No rate sheets, no spec sheet, nothing resembling a product sheet.
It wasn't until almost 3 hours later that the true dollar amount came to light, about 15k for 1 bed, 20k for 2 and 25k for 3. The membership fees were around $1500/yr. All and all the pricing wasn't unreasonable and well within my price range. The two were quite adept at keeping the numbers flowing yet not quite adding up. Oh and those numbers were all without the inability to obtain 3rd party financing. They require you to get their 14.9% financing first then you have 30 days to get 3rd party financing.
The supervisor made quite the point that everything he was doing was legal and above board, which it was, 100% legal, just very manipulative. They wouldn't let the product sell itself, they felt the need to push the sale. I could literally give a dozen different ways it could work different and better. Welk Resorts missed out on a sale today. Well maybe, found dozens of memberships for sale on 3rd party timeshare sites. Maybe I can pick one up for a fraction of the original amount. For those who are interested in this, ask for the paperwork up front to review. When they don't give it to you, there's your ability to walk away. Oh, if Welk Corporate wishes to contact me, feel free.
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In a moment of pure desperation for something good in our lives, we went to a timeshare presentation for the free vacation promise only. Somehow, despite the fact that we had almost no money in our bank account, we got talked into purchasing a timeshare. I didn't even think it would be possible that we would qualify considering neither my husband nor I had good credit, we didn't have enough money to put down the deposit they required, and also we didn't even want a timeshare! At that time, I was very mentally unstable, shortly after this huge mistake, I started therapy and got put on antidepressants for anxiety and depression. So I was not in the best state of mind and unfortunately let myself be convinced over the 5 hour presentation that this was a good decision.
The part that gets me the most is how they pushed the purchase through. Because we didn't have the money for the deposit, they applied for a credit card with Quorum Federal Credit Union for me, so that the deposit could be paid for with this line of credit. And then, they set up the payments for the timeshare to be automatically withdrawn from this credit card. This just seems incredibly unethical to me.... feels reminiscent of the sub-prime home loans that led to the housing bubble bursting and the 2007-2009 recession in the United States.
We couldn't even qualify for a $10,000 small business loan at that time, so how did we qualify to purchase a timeshare that cost $13,000, with no down payment?? I remember thinking, man this guy is gonna do whatever it takes to get this sale, and by the end of it, I felt bad that he had spent so much time with us, I felt like we owed it to him to follow through with the purchase!
That was in 2014, it is now 2016 and we haven't used a single day of our timeshare. Why? Because we can't afford it! We live on such a tight budget that we can't take time off. We have been on Medi-Cal health insurance for years because we are below the poverty line. Welk continues to put the timeshare payments on the Quorum credit card they so strategically provided for me, but we are only making the minimum payments on it and we haven't been able to pay our maintenance fees, so at this point I'm guessing we will be headed toward foreclosure. If anyone can confirm that these practices were illegal, please respond. I am considering pursuing a class action lawsuit against the Welk Resort Group.
Last November, we celebrated my parent's 50th wedding anniversary at the Welk Resort in San Diego. Many of our guests came from out of town and stayed at the resort, including my parents, and they loved being able to visit family at the pool, go to a neighboring villa for breakfast, and/or getting away to a nearby attraction. The venue on the golf course was beautiful and the catering director, Morgan ** was wonderful to work with from start to finish. My parents loved the celebration and seeing them smile and enjoy their special day, will be a memory we will never forget. It's experiences like this that confirm why we decided to become Welk owners and it's people like those who work at Welk who make these experiences very special memories.
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