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Reviewed April 10, 2015
I am upset because there was a miscommunication in the dates, according to reservations. I was supposed to be there last week... My friend and I were packed and ready to go. No one called when I didn't check in on the 4th. When I did talk to someone they said my week was lost. No efforts were made to help me. Even the supervisor stated that since I didn't arrive my week was lost. To give some background I have been an owner in good standing for 23 years. I always come the first 2 weeks of April. I always paid the mtce fee on time.
When I didn't check in on the 4th you would think a phone call would have been in order. I would think this should be company policy to check on the status of my arrival. That would have resolved everything. As I could have gotten in the car and lost only 1 day versus the entire week! I have sent 2 emails made 4 phone calls and were promised a manager would call back within 24 hours. I am still waiting. If I don't get some resolution to my problem I will be ending my relationship with the Welk organization. This saddens me since I have enjoyed the resort since 1992.
Reviewed March 15, 2015
Have stayed at three Welk Resorts and dealt with them and I arranging reservations. Give 100% to both. Just make arrangements early or, at least, we do. Always pleasant, helpful and accommodating to any of our requests. Smooth friendly check-ins and check-outs. May or may not meet with sales people, have never been pushy and we can end meeting at any time. I have been surprised and sad when reading some of the write ups. How could we just 'be lucky' so many times? Been enjoying Welk facilities since 2006. Spent 2 weeks on exchange in Ko Olina, Oahu last Nov. Reps were tremendous in getting each week consecutive and even same hotel, the Marriott. Just be early in request. Negatives? One. Welk has spoiled us from using other accommodation! And I like to travel in a manner I would like to become accustomed to experiencing!
Reviewed Jan. 21, 2015
I am both thankful and angry at the same time. I am thankful that I read the reviews on this website and did not attend the "You Are Invited Sham". To be fair there were a couple good reviews BUT I am skeptical of their validity. I am angry that I was ripped off for $40 before I read these reviews. It was a high-pressure sales pitch as soon as I came into the Staple Center! I somehow got talked into signing up, and paying $40 for the privilege, of attending the sales pitch for the Timeshare.
I read 28 reviews and the bad reviews outnumbered the positive reviews by a large margin. It was after reading the horror stories: 90 minute presentation turned into 4-5 hour ordeal, the lies they tell just to close the deal, inflexible organization, poor management of the property, hassles with getting desired vacation dates, excessive maintenance fees, questionable exchange fees, poor re-sale potential ($1), and bogus "gifts" that I decided to not waste my time.
I called the number provided but it went straight to voicemail, just as was predicted/experienced by the other posters! I guess I was hoping that Welk resorts would be different BUT this site told the real story! I am irritated to the point that I will lobby the Staple Center to get them KICKED off the premises. They are full of excrement and are out to swindle you! I wish I could warn others before they plunk down $40 and sit through a high-pressure sales pitch and the resultant buyers remorse when they are subject to the shady business dealings. RULE OF THUMB: If you have to pay a deposit to attend any sales pitch, it's BOGUS. Run away as fast as you can!
Reviewed Jan. 14, 2015
NEVER BUY A TIME-SHARE HERE! I recently became a Welk Owner Resort - quite a true regret thus far. My wife and I are familiar with time-shares and their policies because my parents have one that we use frequently. So we were very excited when the following things were promised to us: discounted air fare on all travel; discounted car rentals; a personal Welk Resort agent that would manage all of our bookings for us; no time restrictions on when we wanted to travel or where we wanted to travel; a book from Interval International (many time-shares charge for this); 2 full weeks of travel which could be broken up into days, NOT POINTS; and another week offered when we used a week for slightly more than $174, totaling 4 weeks.
A representative of Welk named Mary contacted me to purchase more points. She seemed to have all of my information when she was trying to sell me something, but when I asked her about booking travel or a vacation or changing my credit card, she wasn't able to provide me with any answers. Interestingly enough, she informed me that: all travel is done by points, not days; no one from Welk books anything for you, you have to go through Interval International; book at least 6 months in advanced (the sales agent told me he booked a room in Hawaii 5 days before his travel date and got an excellent hotel, I have been trying to book a trip for the past 2 months for a trip in April and I can not even get a room!); there are no extra weeks. So she wasn't quite sure where I got all of this information.
I went ahead and contacted Interval International, and the customer service was even worse. Apparently, we're not platinum members with Interval International the way we are supposedly platinum members with Welk; and their website is a glorified version of Travelocity or Expedia - where there are absolutely no discounts. I was extremely hesitant in investing $25,000 into something like this, but I had good faith and trusted our sales agent who told us his life story and why he himself is a time-share owner. If Welk Resorts only way to earn revenue is by lying to their customers and taking their hard earned money, that's horrific. DO NOT FALL FOR ANYTHING THE SALES PERSON TELLS YOU! IT WILL NEVER BE IN WRITING!!!
Reviewed Jan. 9, 2015
On Dec 27, I attended a timeshare, I was going to purchase a timeshare and I was told I had 7 days to cancel. I left a deposit on 12/27/14 in the amount of 1770.00. I canceled on 12/29/14 and received my confirmation on 12/30/14 from their corporate office. I still have not seen my money returned to me. I was told that I would get it refunded to my account on my cards 24-72 hours, as that time passed I was then told 24-96 hours. Today is the 9th of January 2015 and I still have not received a refund. I have now contacted my bank and credit card company for assistance and these people will not call me back. That is a lot of money to be out. They took money same day out of my account and should have already put it back but they are trying to hang on to it as long as possible. What are my options? I just want my money returned to me.
Reviewed Nov. 9, 2014
The sales staff at the Northstar Tahoe location of Welk Resort Group used deceptive trade practices, high pressure sales tactics, and fraudulent claims to coerce me into purchasing a timeshare. They made promises that they would buy back my timeshare if I wanted to sell it, and that it would be worth more in the future, that I would be able to rent my timeshare for thousands of dollars per year and that the rental income would cover my fees, and they led me to believe that I was purchasing more time and a larger size unit than I actually can obtain with the level of points I purchased. I have attempted to call Welk to resolve these issues but they have been evasive and deceptive in dealing with me.
Reviewed Sept. 22, 2014
Do not buy a timeshare with this group under any circumstances! This is the most useless waste of money my husband and I have ever done! They promise the world and wonderful vacations and you get nothing but aggravation, high maintenance fees, and I have had them hang up on me when I wouldn't give up asking questions. Run, don't walk away from this group!
Reviewed Sept. 17, 2014
As a condition of purchasing a timeshare promises for free vacation days were made and not forthcoming. Points from the company were re-assigned and now forfeited.
Reviewed Sept. 17, 2014
My spouse and I were approached at an Angles Game in Anaheim Ca by "Welk Resorts" employees and offered a great deal to sign up for a time share presentation, all we had to do was fill out a "you're invited", leave a $40.00 (refundable) deposit and show up. 4 Days before the presentation a representative called and verified that we no longer qualified due to my spouse being laid off and would promptly refund our deposit. I have called and spoken to 4 Different reps including the accounts Manager (Robert) who had no idea why my refund still had not been completed. Since then and after being promised it would be handled promptly, I have left 3 more messages.... No response and no refund.... going on 6 weeks.
Reviewed Sept. 6, 2014
After reading the complaints about Welk Resorts, I felt compelled to share my experience. WE LOVE OUR OWNERSHIP. Here's why... 1) We are taking better quality vacations. We have traveled to Cabo San Lucas, Branson, and San Diego. The resorts are beautiful! The accommodations have always been above our expectations. 2) It forces us to take a vacation every year. That's not a bad thing! 3) We are making life long memories with our children that probably wouldn't have happened if we didn't own. While nothing is perfect, with a little common sense Welk Resorts will make you happy.
Reviewed Aug. 12, 2014
We, like many others, were approached to attend a presentation Our presentation was not bad... It was what they actually gave us in exchange... Total lies to get us there. Offered 3 nights accommodations. YES...stated 4 star to me 3 times when questioned on this... When called to redeem, I find out Holiday Inn or Ramada Inn. Further, we find out you have to pay 40.00 upfront. This bait and switch totally cheapened Welk Resorts and totally ruined my initial impression of their program, which I thought was quite impressive.
Reviewed July 17, 2014
We attended a sales pitch at Lawrence Welk - Escondido at the end of March 2014. The promotion promised a gift of tickets to Disneyland and overnight stay in a hotel there. Since we have a 4-year old, we thought it would be a great thing. Now after 2 1/2 months of following their guidelines for keeping our offer alive and choosing 2 different dates to go, they tell me the dates aren't available and we need to start at square 1 again! They assured me that "even though you will probably have to choose a few dates we will give it to you". So according to my calculations, it would be sometime in 2015 "maybe" that we could get something? Please stay away from this joke of an offer. It's not worth the time and effort and surely the frustration that you'll have to endure.
Reviewed July 12, 2014
My partner and I attended a timeshare presentation that we were told would last 90 minutes. It went on for 3 hours and only ended because I insisted. I was honest from the beginning that I was willing to listen to the talk but wasn't interested in buying. There was a huge push to sell to us, but I was consistent in my stance. At the end of the talk, due to their frustration, they put me down and were very rude to us. I finally told them I was not interested in a firm way, and that was not taken well. We received our $40 deposit and our gifts, except for the SF Giants baseball tickets. I will be calling them about their promise. I walked away feeling completely grossed out and angry by their tactics and attempt to make me feel guilty.
I was upset for a long time that day. I will never attend another timeshare talk in this lifetime or another! I have yet to try to redeem the gifts but don't have much confidence.
Reviewed July 6, 2014
While at the Del Mar Fair on July 4, 2014 we stopped by an area offering free trips in return for attending a tour of the Lawrence Welk Resort in Escondido, CA. After listening to the woman explain the offer and asking a number of questions I signed up for a tour at 1 pm on July 6 and paid a $40 refundable deposit to guarantee my attendance at the tour. Unfortunately, after calling to confirm the tour and speaking with two different Welk representatives, it's very clear they are misrepresenting what people receive for attending, and they change the terms after you've paid the $40 deposit.
Here are the specifics of what I was offered:
1. A 2-day, 1-night trip to Catalina Island, including the trip to the island and one night accommodations2. Wine tasting in Temecula
3. San Diego harbor cruise
4. A 7" Android tablet
At no point did the Welk representative state there were any costs for the gifts. She specifically asked me what color Android tablet I wanted so they could have it available for me when after the 90-minute tour. She also said they had a special offer if I attended the weekend of July 5 and 6 - an additional prize. Finally, she asked me to call an 800 to confirm my attendance and promised that if I did there would be additional prizes. I paid the $40 deposit in cash and was assured it would be returned to me after I attended the 90 minute tour.
I was given a written receipt with my tour date and time, my list of prizes and the color of the Android tablet I had chosen. I called to confirm the following day, and when my call went to voicemail I left a message confirming my attendance. I received two calls back, one asking me to confirm and a later call acknowledging my confirmation but also asking me to call back regarding the details of my prizes.
Once I returned the call the offer details from Lawrence Welk Resorts changed. The woman I spoke with first told me they had no open appointments available, since I had failed to confirm and I would have to book another date and time. I had a written confirmation, had called 3 times to confirm and had paid a $40 deposit!
Next, the woman listed my prizes for me, before referred to an Android tablet "voucher" but a tablet. When I asked about the voucher she said I had to order the tablet, specify the color I wanted and pay a large shipping and handling fee. I explained that I had already chosen a color and had been told it would be waiting for me; plus the color was even written on my receipt. The woman continued to insist they hadn't offered that and maybe the representative I spoke with was just new and incorrect.
Next, the Welk phone representative explained I would have to pay the port fees for the Catalina trip. Port fees are one of the larger costs for cruises and trips to Catalina, and when I complained that this hadn't been explained to me she said they tell everyone. I had a friend standing next to me when I signed up for the tour, and the woman working for Lawrence Welk Resorts definitely never said anything about costs. She referred the trips as "prizes" or "gifts" and reasonable consumers don't assume that gifts and prizes have a cost unless that is clearly explained.
Unfortunately, because I trusted the offer made by Lawrence Welk Resorts I had told my daughter we were going to Catalina and told my son he could have the Android tablet. Once it was clear the costs were going up for the "gifts" from Welk, I cancelled my tour and had to tell my kids we wouldn't be receiving the Catalina trip or Android tablet.
Lawrence Welk Resorts cancelled my tour and have agreed to refund my $40, via check, and after an estimated 3 weeks. They conceded they had misrepresented themselves and I was even told that they receive regular complaints about not telling prospective buyers about the costs of the "prizes." I read a number of other reviews on this resort and it's clear they misrepresent the prizes and the terms in order to solicit prospective buyers and then change the terms once people have paid a deposit and/or shown up for the tour.
Reviewed June 15, 2014
I purchased an ownership with Welk in Branson in 2010 and found the resort to be very nice! I owned a timeshare in Orlando and had nothing but problems with it (fees increasing, trouble getting in, ext.) but have had great results with my Welk. We went to Marriott Kauai on an exchange and WOW! We took the tour at the Marriott and the price was absurd! Made me feel really good about my decision with Welk. They traded my Orlando week in and My travel doubled and my maintenance fees were cut by almost half! Already have my 6th trip booked with them and excited to see where this leads us! Came across these complaints and I have never failed to get in touch with someone for help. Guess you can't please everyone!
Reviewed May 26, 2014
In December 2012, we attended a sales presentation at the Timbercreek Welk Resort in Branson. We'd redeemed a bonus week given us for staying at timeshare in Williamsburg, Va. in order to stay at Welk property. We had enjoyed staying at the Branson resort, but already owned a timeshare in Las Vegas. The sales manager had a possible solution, involving our trading our Las Vegas property toward what was being offered by Welk in Branson. I wrote out the details of my Las Vegas property, which was a floating week 1 bedroom for every year. I was looking to reduce our vacation ownership and was considering an every other year 90K point program with Welk. While the sales manager was away, I asked our sales lady the price of the every other year program. She gave an oral quote of $10,600.
A few minutes later, the sales manager came back with "good news"! He told us that Go Properties would accept my Las Vegas property and put in writing on a Go Properties Liquidation form, "$8400 + fees $495 - $8895 total". Putting the quoted price less the written trade-in, I considered our net cost to be ~$2200. While I didn't have my Las Vegas property deed on hand, I was told not to worry, that Go Properties would be in touch with me in the near future to handle the trade in part of the transaction. In the meantime, we signed a purchase agreement, made a down payment with Master Card and signed a 10 year note for the balance of the full purchase price. The note had a zero interest if paid in full within 6 weeks, otherwise interest would be ~15%.
After a month had passed and not hearing from Go Properties, I paid off the balance of the note via American Express, in anticipation of receiving $8400 from Go Properties upon signing over my deed to the Las Vegas Property. In February, we received a letter from Go Property, dated EXACTLY 60 days after the date of our signing our sales agreement. It outlined the procedure for relinquishing our Las Vegas ownership. I called to inquire about the $8400 promised. It was then for the first time that I was told that I would receive nothing for my Las Vegas timeshare. In addition there were other fees totaling $950 that I was to pay by check to Go Properties along with my deed!
At that point, I recognized the scheme for what it was. Contacting the sales staff at Branson proved frustrating, as I was told one lie after another. The first was that the anticipated property transfer fee for the my resort had increased in the two months. I called my Las Vegas resort and verified that there had been no changes in transfer fees. I immediately filed a dispute of charges for both the down payment with Master Card and the note payoff with American Express. I also contacted the Consumer Affairs Office of the State of Missouri Attorney General to file a complaint. I reached out to Welk Resort's corporate office in California thinking that perhaps the problem was an overly zealous sales staff in Branson and hoping that Welk's corporate office would rectify the problem simply via rescission of our sale and refund all monies tendered subordinate to the sale. I did not get a response from Welk until I subsequently filed a complaint through the Better Business Bureau of Missouri.
Ultimately, both Master Card and American Express refunded 100% of all funds we had paid to Welk. I'd submitted my narrative along with supporting documents to both credit card companies. Welk did not contest the matter, choosing to not respond to multiple contacts by both American Express and Master Card and declined AmEx's attempt to mediate our dispute. We then began receiving collection calls and letters increasing our alleged indebtedness due to our non-payment. Throughout, my request was that now that we had retrieved our funds, that Welk would rescind the contract, keep their points and we might go forward as though the sad event of December 2012 had never happened.
Through reviewing of Federal Trade Commission website, I was able to turn off the all collection calls from Welk. Welk had failed to respond to inquiries from the Missouri AG's office. Finally, Welk sent a response to the attorney general stating that they had "written off" our alleged debt. The AG's office sent us this information along with copies of certified letters which Welk claimed to have sent to both myself and my wife dated October 2013. This was the first time we'd ever seen these letters or learned that Welk had written off our note.
In the meantime, I'd applied for an American Airlines credit card through Citibank Visa, which promised 30,000 miles and waiver of baggage fees. Surprisingly, for the first time in my life, my application for credit was rejected. When I spoke to the bank, they referred to a "write off" of ~$10K on my credit report, which had reduced my credit score from >800 to under 700!
So, the net result of our interaction with Welk is that we recovered our funds (thank God!). Welk has its points, however, I am left with a blemished on my credit report. We are grateful for escaping the timeshare trap laid by Welk; however, the end result is that Welk has defamed my credit worthiness and dishonored my reputation. This was entirely unnecessary and does not set the matter right. This could have been accomplished simply through an amiable rescission of our sales agreement.
I am now in the process of obtaining my credit reports from the 3 national credit agencies, in order that I might dispute the ill report against my reputation and credit worthiness. In summary, the bait (the Welk property) is desirable and our stay was enjoyable; however, the deception involved in the sales presentation including both written and oral misrepresentation of trade in value of my resort should have voided our sales agreement and all subordinate notes due to the substantial and material misrepresentation regarding the trade in value to be granted for my Las Vegas property.
Welk's policy of "rescission is not an option" is ill advised and unconscionable in light of the 60 day lag time between the signing of the contract and our first becoming aware of the misrepresentation of our trade in's impact upon our net purchase price. Given the multi-state scope of Welk's scheme, involving Missouri for the resort, California for Welk's HQ and New Jersey for Go Properties, I submitted a complaint via the Federal Trade Commission as well as a "tip" on the FBI's website.
Reviewed May 21, 2014
We did lots of research about timeshares before we bought. Welk seemed to be the best out there. We went in and listened to their sales pitch and only bought after our third visit\presentation. We were clear with our budget. The seemingly nice salesman (they're all nice, aren't they?) sold us 90k points for what he said the cheapest price he had ever seen (right!). Assured us that even though we only have enough for a studio, when you trade in your points at other resorts, like HI, AZ, and even Europe, they have to give you the smallest available. When the time came to actually trade in our points, we found out that even though we bought at the Escondido resort (which they assured us had the highest demand rate) they actually registered our points at Branson MI (WTF?!?)
Apparently that happens automatically if you buy a studio. There was NEVER a mention of that resort or that rule the whole time we were there. The VERY next year, Welk sent us an invitation and showed us a letter with a new rule that from now on, you can only get a studio if you bought studio points. The problem with that is ONLY their Branson MI resort has studio points. SO basically now all the money that I paid at the San Diego resort can only be used at Branson. I tried to stop paying the $900 maintenance fees, but they sent it to collection. I called them and asked to sell my points (you have to sell through them) it turns out, after fees and commission, I get a whopping $25.00 for my points (that's right, twenty five dollars!!) despite my self acclaimed savviness, I was royally scammed.
Reviewed May 2, 2014
Not only is the system completely ridiculous, in that we could not book online, but in a last ditch effort to make an honest attempt at learning exactly how we should go about booking vacations in the future, our "representative" Mark, was completely ridiculous in not only making it known that because he is used to dealing with owners who have a larger investment than us so he could essentially care less, but also proceeded to say obviously we just have to pick up the phone and call if the online access is not working and that he cannot manage our account for us.
We are fully aware we are not even close to being the elite bunch of owners who have more invested but being that this was our first timeshare ownership (though I have dealt with others and their ownership), it was sort of a trial for us and what we hoped would be a good experience and make us go on vacation every year. Not only could I easily book a vacation online to anyplace, we have tried to book through Interval/Welk for the same cost, but we would have much less hassle.
In our first attempt we booked our first week last Sept. and were nothing but excited. Being that I started a new job in August and my boss said I could possibly still get the week off as long as surveyors were not at my work during that week, I kept the week. We were not told until the week before leaving that they would arrive; therefore I could not take off work, so I was forced to cancel. After going into Welk last weekend, we were told by the representative we had not lost either our bonus week nor our regular week and it was easy to book.
Today we began the attempt and first called Interval to book in Oct. so we could buy our plane tickets now (in accordance with the available facilities) as well as to ensure there would be a unit in the area we wanted to go. We were told that because of our late cancellation last year, we are essentially penalized and can only book 2 months out (which is also ridiculous since we still had to pay the taxes which Interval was able to keep), and that our week expires in Sept. In past experience, the longer we wait to book, the less facilities available. I called Welk to ask about our bonus week as well of which I was told we never returned the letter (which we never received) advising to accept and he could do that now but it expires the end of May anyways, so basically good luck being able to use that as well.
This has been the absolutely worst experience of my life, and actually puts a damper on taking any kind of vacation utilizing either Welk or Interval. I am looking into selling, but almost feel guilty pushing this hellish experience on anyone else. You would think in an industry such as travel and timeshares that customer service would be a leading priority but that is obviously not the case in terms of Interval or Welk Resorts. Not only would I not recommend this program or organization to anyone I know but I will do anything I can to ensure that all prospective members are full aware of what they are going to be getting themselves into, especially if they do not have the money to just lose out on.
Reviewed Jan. 21, 2014
We were at a Clippers game at the Staples Center, when we were approached by a Welk Resort representative. He told us about this timeshare presentation that was taking place on 01/20/2014 and that all we had to do is just listen to the life changing experience that getting into this resort can do for you and your family. He also mentioned that he will give us tickets for a Clippers game plus a 3-night accommodation stay in San Francisco, so we bought into his info. He also said he needed to take a $ 40.00 deposit from us which we gave to him in CASH and will be refunded to us in the same manner as given to him upon arrival and that the presentation would not take more than 90 minutes.
Upon arrival we checked in then were asked to show ID and a credit card and waited to be seen by staff. Finally we got called into a lobby filled with a lot of other people, so at that moment we did not feel important anymore, we started talking about the Welk Resort staff's family and the things he has accomplished by being an owner of the greatest timeshare on earth. He seemed to know information about every place we would like to visit and gave us some cool feedback but it felt like he had read a book about how to turn people's spirits high by telling them how cool it is there and places he has visited, and the funny part was that other staff members were pitching the same lines to people that were in attendance.
Finally after 3 hours went by (Not 90 Minutes) he showed us around the area and the suites and believe me the place was beautiful to see. We went back to his table then talked for another 45 minutes. I made a decision not to buy into it at this time, and it didn't sit well with the staff member and mentioned that how can I do this to my family and destroy their memory bank which is something they will treasure forever. I held my grounds and said not at the moment, he would counter offer with downsizing my suite to make it more affordable, and would advise us to cut back on our normal day spending and get rid of cable TV for 1 year and by doing so, it would show me how I can afford it after all.
Finally when I said that my mind was made up and I ain't buying into this at the time, he escorted us to another location where we felt thank God it's finally over, but to my surprise we got another staff member that tried to convince me and offered us an opportunity to get into this timeshare and locking in the deal simply by buying a $999.00 package and at the end of the year if we decided to buy into the timeshare, they will give credit towards the $17,000.00 plus. I stood my grounds and still said no, then when asked about our $40.00 cash we gave earlier in the month, he gave us a credit Voucher, and would get it refunded into our credit card that we showed earlier upon checking in, now the showing of the credit card in the beginning makes sense.
This whole experience was a nightmare and as far as getting our 3-night accommodations to San Francisco is still a challenge to come not to mention you have to pay upfront for "Taxes" and no guarantee by travel agency as read in the extremely fine prints. My advice to you is Salvage your marriage and keep your family by not investing in this timeshare and please Ladies don't do it.
Reviewed Jan. 7, 2014
Our family has a timeshare with Welk Resort. We have had such a terrible time making arrangements to use our timeshare. I have complained to Welk numerous times and the last time I was directed to the Welk's Consumer Affairs. Yes the gentleman called me several times and was going to get back to me on Dec 30th. Today is the 7th and he has not called. Working with Welk has been a nightmare and I wish I could turn back the hands of time so I was not sucked into this scheme. I was told to call a particular broker to sell my shares and I was so insulted. We paid $12000 and were offered $1 to buy it. That is not a mistake, $1. Do yourself a favor and DO NOT INVEST. It's truly a nightmare.
Reviewed Dec. 12, 2013
Bought a timeshare two years ago for $12000, extremely hard to make vacation plans, not worth the investment. Wish to now sell it, and they won't buy it back, change of plans for them. Sent me to a broker and was offered $1 for my investment. Also was told our investment is now not worth what it was so asked to put in an additional $8000 so it will be easier to use. I really just want out of the horrible investment and Welk Resort is making it impossible. If I had known I would not have done the deal in the first place. I want out at a fair price!
Reviewed Dec. 12, 2013
First of all, this is a review of the Timeshare involvement with this Resort. The resort itself is a well maintained, nice, but overpriced, place to stay. This review has to do with the timeshare involvement that will be pushed on you from your first contact. You have not experienced high pressure sales until you have attended one of the timeshare presentations! My advice is STAY AWAY from this presentation. As owners of a competitive timeshare, we became involved in a Welk presentation as a potential upgrade, and since we live near Branson were really interested in the ability to trade for like units at other resorts. If you sign up for the presentation, be aware.....
The One hour presentation will last anywhere from 3 to 5 hours, if you have not purchased some involvement before that amount of time has elapsed. The presentation is centered around how Welk is different because of the points arrangement rather than a week equivalent at another resort for the week at the home resort. This was supposed to allow a Welk owner to potentially have multiple weeks for all of the points available for the Welk unit. We were sold on the fact that with the generous number of points in the Welk Platinum package, we would have sufficient trading power to at least have a couple of weeks per year at other resorts.
Here is how it really works from experience. One week's ownership of a one-bedroom unit at a Welk Resort will get you 90,000 Points (90,000, sounds like a lot for a one bedroom unit). Those 90,000 points will get you one week at another Welk resort (of which there are only 5 or 6). So...one week = one week. Only way to get more points...buy a bigger unit!
The second point was that these points could be used at any Interval International resort, so one could virtually go anywhere in the world. Guess what, try to find one available, we tried last June to find one in Florida, for use in October. We weren't too particular, first choice Marco Island, none available. Second choice Key West, none available, Sanibel Island...none available, Sarasota... none available... Finally found one in Destin, northern Florida in October, not the idea part of Florida.
Then the next surprise, our 90,000 Welk points would only get us a Studio (one room) unit in the Interval system. Didn't find that out until we arrived in Destin. The Studio unit was equivalent to a Motel 6 room. Finally upgraded to a one bedroom unit for an additional cost of $175.00. Just a note, the one bedroom unit had two bathrooms, trouble was, to get to the bedroom from the living area, one had to go through both bathrooms. Called the Quality Assurance Manager at Welk Branson, he assured us that we should have been due a one bedroom originally so we asked him to help recover our upgrade cost, $175.00, still waiting for his call back!
Final note, if you do decide to attend the timeshare presentation, keep in mind, if you purchase a timeshare, and walk out of the front door, Welk will not buy that timeshare back, not even for $1.00. Why, maintenance fees; our maintenance fee for a one week unit for 2014 was to be $819.00, of which property taxes were only $14.58 for our one week's ownership, or $758.16 for the year. What is left amounts to $804.42 per week, or $41,830.00 per year above the actual property taxes to manage and maintain a one bedroom unit. Problem is, you are responsible for the entire maintenance fee as long as you own the timeshare, every year, and guess what, every year it goes up. If you believe this is a reasonable fee, go for it. Our final cost of the week in Destin was approximately $250.00 original processing fee for the Interval reservation, $175.00 upgrade fee, and the previous maintenance fee for the year the points were issued, $700.00, or a total of $1,125.00. I'm sure I can find a pretty nice place to have a vacation for $1,125.00 per week!
Final, final note. Recently Welk was kind enough to provide us with the name of a company who will buy our timeshare, offered price $1.00, our purchase price in 2012, $10,200.00. We are accepting their generous offer.
Reviewed Sept. 13, 2012
The staff was not helpful. First off, when I was greeted, I automatically felt uncomfortable. I don't know if it is because I am of a different race or because I went alone with my children. They kept asking me for a husband and that was not necessary. I am a single mother who can take her kids out on her own. Second, the rooms are not available until 4 pm, although they tell you that you can do an early check-in and there might be a possibility the room can be ready before then. They suggested waiting by the pools and this was good but I started to feel sick. I called and asked if there was any way to get a room that had already been cleaned because I have a heart condition and needed to lie down. Of course, I was willing to pay but they said no.
Third, I get a call at 3:36 pm and was told that my room was ready. I went to the lobby to check-in and was told I was mistaken that no one had called me. I had to show my phone with their number so she can see that I did receive the call. She came back and said, "Okay, but your room has been changed." I asked her why and she said there was a maintenance problem. Fourth, there was a mouse in our room. I called to get someone in there to get the mouse out. It took 40 minutes and two phone calls later to get someone. Apparently, the front desk did not inform the maintenance team until after I made the second call. The maintenance manager told me himself and showed me his walkie-talkie.
Fifth, checkout time is 10 am. I called and asked for an extension on our check out. Again, I was willing to pay for the extra time, but I was told the latest was 10:30 am. Sixth, I have placed two calls and left two messages to the manager, Louisa and assistant manager, and I have not received a call back. All in all, they are not very accommodating and they are very unfriendly. This place is beautiful and there are lots you can do but because of these experiences, I will not be back.
Reviewed Aug. 29, 2012
My husband and I purchased the timeshare in June of this year. We were told that within 2 weeks, we would receive our welcome package. We waited and didn't receive it and so I called and emailed and wrote and stated that I had not received it and if we didn't receive it per the contract, we were going to cancel as we didn't even know how to use it or anything.
We didn't receive anything. After re-reading the contract with my lawyer, they stated that I need to put in writing that I was canceling my contract with Welk Resorts, because they breached the contract on their end. Well, in doing so, I started to get collection calls and after notifying them again that we canceled due to them not meeting the contract, they told me that I was still liable for the payment. That's not even true per my lawyer. I have written and spoken with them and asked them to stop calling as they were not going to get anything from me as they broke contract.
The only response was that they show the welcome package was mailed out and we should have received it, and I informed them that it was too late. Per the contract that we signed with them, it stated within 2 weeks, not 3 months. So, I told them to cancel. They are still harassing me.
Reviewed Aug. 24, 2012
Since purchasing a timeshare with Welk Resorts on Aug 4th, 2009, we have come to the realization that we were lied to and manipulated by your staff. The salespeople presentation had very nicely decorated model units and gave a special discount price and offered there were new developments happening on the property. The value would continue to increase once they were finished so we could turn around and sell it for far more than we were paying that day. They told us that owning a timeshare was a great investment that would benefit us for a lifetime. Of course, we have since learned that timeshare holds no financial value. We have had the timeshare listed for sale since 2010 and have even lowered the price significantly but still we receive no offers.
They explained to us that since we were buying three weeks, we could vacation or rent out for profit to help cover our maintenance fees (all the fees were more than $1000 per year and we found out after the first year). As with selling, we have found that using this timeshare for rental purposes is also nearly impossible. So, we doubt that we will make any money at all even though the salespeople used this as their sales tactic.
One of the bigger selling points they pitched during the presentation was the ability to exchange our timeshare to travel to other resorts all over the world. But we have since found that there are multiple fees associated with the exchange service. We have tried exchanging our timeshare weeks, but everything is either fully booked, there is no exchange in the area we want to go or we can get a two-star hotel, which is not an equal trade. Also the exchange locations are very limited. We contacted Welk to ask about the possibility of them buying back the timeshare but the only way is to give back for free plus we need to pay for the contract fee or $1 to sell it to the company that would supposedly buy our timeshare. We were completely shocked with this information since we were told we would make a profit.
Reviewed April 11, 2012
Non-stop telemarketing calls from Welk Resort: I get daily calls from Welk Resort asking to attend time share presentation. They never give up calling me daily from 213-284-3909.
Reviewed April 11, 2012
I have been calling since December 2011 regarding my membership. Most of the time, I am told I will get a call back later or call back. I do not appreciate being ignored especially since I truly need assistance in this matter. It is very important. I am about to try and get legal assistance, be it civilian or military or both.
Reviewed March 22, 2012
Inconsistent and unfair credit reporting practices by Welk Resort Group located at 8860 Lawrence Welk Drive in Escondido, CA 92026 - They have a very inconsistent way of reporting credit. I've been doing business with them since 2006. At the early stages of my loan, they were not reporting any information to the credit bureaus and one day without notification they started doing so. I was also informed they only report delinquencies to credit bureaus at the beginning of every month (not based on due date) meaning as in my case my payments are due the 20th every month, and as long as I made my payment before the end of the following month I would be reported 30+ days delinquent although I really was about 35 days behind by the time I made my payments on or about the 25th of the month due to my current pay periods of the 10th and 25th.
So based on this information, I was paying my payments accordingly. But in February 2012, they reported me 30 days delinquent to Experian for my 12/2011 payment which they processed on 1/6/12 so about 36 days behind but nevertheless within the month of January as I've been doing for months now and had never been a problem because that was exactly how they told me they report their credit to credit bureaus. Once again, they never have sent anything in writing disclosing any changes in their credit reporting practices to advise me this would be happening. They are claiming they never said such a thing to me on how and when they disclosed their credit reporting information to the credit reporting agencies. However, my previous payment history and the way they have been reporting my credit history to these agencies clearly reflects that I am the one telling the truth.
I filed a consumer complaint with the BBB on 2/15/12 and they closed their file as unresolved on 3/2/112 due to the lack of cooperation from the Welk Resort to resolve this matter amicably. I truly believe the Welk Resort Group or his agents are acting in bad faith only because I'm stating the facts. I do not feel they have a consistent and fair way of reporting payment histories to the credit reporting agencies as I can only say that based on my personal experience with them since 2006 and when disputes are in fact made. They aren't willing to resolve the matter at hand. I would like for the FTC to look further into my complaint and claims against the Welk Resort Group. I pay all my bills on time. This has been the only creditor I've had issues with in many years. I also feel they are discriminating and acting in bad faith towards me because I have a Hispanic accent and because I've addressed their lack of consistency in their credit reporting practices.
I have worked in the finance industry for many years now and I personally found they credit reporting practices to be out of the ordinary as the many mortgage companies I've worked for always report based on the due dates and not end of month but again I do value my credit history very much and work hard at maintaining a good credit score as well as a good payment history with all my creditors. Reason for which is I feel that their business practices are deceiving and unfair especially when they aren't providing ample written notification whenever their reporting practices are about to change. If I had been notified ahead of time, I would have known what to do immediately thereafter in order to avoid my credit being affected by their changes. I would no longer recommend any of my friends or family members to do any type of business with them. Stay away!
Reviewed March 3, 2012
I purchased a time share at this resort after my cash payment was made with all the promises. I am now unable to reach anyone at the resort to plan my vacation. It is as if no one is there after days of calling and leaving messages. Still no help!
Reviewed Dec. 6, 2011
This was a scam. I was the owner for two years and when I first joined, they told me my points will never expire. Now they tell me they do expire and I have to use them by end of the year. If I roll them over, I can only roll them over half and they again expire next year! Scam!
Reviewed Nov. 21, 2011
The salesperson outright lied and misrepresented facts about the Welk Timeshare. Although I am an 'owner', I am unable to schedule any vacations through Welk or Interval International for at least the next two years. I was promised this would not happen because my 'level of membership' affords me certain rights. Now I'm paying for something I'm unable to use.
Reviewed Sept. 20, 2011
This happened outside of Angel Stadium. On 7/24/11, we were told we were going to a 90-minute presentation to see the Welk Resort Hotel, just in case we ever wanted to stay in the San Diego area. We asked if this was a timeshare and we were told that no, it's not. This took place in front of Angel Stadium, Anaheim, CA. We were promised a three-night stay in Las Vegas just for listening to the presentation and touring the resort. Absolutely no selling was going to take place - its purpose was just to generate "word of mouth" for their resort, and for doing that, they would give us the trip to Vegas.
Reviewed Aug. 15, 2011
On February 27, 2011, we attended a 90-minute sales presentation for the timeshare and vacation packages at Welk Resorts. Then, through Gateway Travel, they offered a dream vacation that was too good to be true. They provided instructions to contact Gateway Travel for the travel package. We were led to believe that we were going to receive a two-night hotel stay in Las Vegas, including round-trip airline tickets for two.
When we contacted Gateway Travel at (866) 670-5050 on the telephone number listed on the mailings to claim the gifts, Cynthia, the lady from itineraries, informed me that she was going to send the itinerary that we discussed two weeks before the travel days as leaving from San Diego Airport in the morning on July 12, 2011 and returning from Las Vegas airport in the afternoon on July 15. I agreed to pay the extra night. No itinerary was sent, and Cynthia started to avoid my phone calls.
We believe that Gateway Travel had no intention of providing the advertised travel services. Welk Resorts and Gateway Travel make consumers believe in promises of free gifts, then misrepresentations about their hotel accommodations and airfare that, probably, was not available. They mislead people for the purpose of defrauding and enriching themselves.
On February 27, 2011, I went to visit the Welk Resorts and received the vacation package instructions to contact Gateway Travel.
On May 24, 2011, I spoke to Regina at Gateway Travel. She was very nice. She finally confirmed our option 1 for travel days on July 12 to July 15, 2011. She told me that we were staying at the Flamingo Hotel and I agreed to pay the extra night at the Flamingo Hotel. She advised me to wait for the confirmation letter in the mail and return it back with a $79 money order.
On May 25, 2011, I sent Regina's supervisor, Steve, a thank you letter via email at **.
On May 30, 2011, I contacted Regina because I did not receive the confirmation letter. She told me that it was already sent and to give it a couple of days. And if not received, just send the money order to her attention.
On June 4, 2011, I received the confirmation letter giving me until June 1 to send it. But Regina said it was okay because the confirmation letter was received late. On June 6, 2011, the $79 money order was sent.
On June 13, 2011, I called Gateway to confirm that the money order was received. I was advised to wait for my itinerary two weeks before my travel day.
On June 30, 2011, I spoke to Cynthia from the itinerary section at Gateway Travel. She asked me if we wanted to leave from San Diego Airport in the morning and come back from Las Vegas in the afternoon. I told her yes. She also told me that we were going to stay at the Palace Station because there was no more availability in the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas. I agreed. Cynthia then told me that everything is okay. Then at this time, she asked me if I wanted to cancel everything and receive $200. I did not accept and she told me that she was going to send me the itinerary via email as soon as possible by close of business on June 30 or the next day.
I checked my email every day. Gateway Travel closes on weekends and then July 4 was a holiday. I did not receive any emails and we started to worry.
On July 5, 2011, I called Cynthia from itineraries and she tried to avoid me. I told her that I was worried and just wanted to make sure that my travel was okay. She responded that everything was okay as she told me before and just needed concurrence from a supervisor and that she was going to call me or send me an email within 72 hours.
On July 7, 2011 at about 3:30 PM, I contacted Gateway Travel and asked for a supervisor. I was transferred to Cynthia again. She was very rude and told me that availability to travel from San Diego was no longer an option for us. She told me that we will be traveling from Los Angeles instead. I explained to her that this was not what she told me before and explained to her that my husband is a truck driver and I was not going to make him drive on his vacation. She did not appear to care about our situation. She just told me I have two options, take it or cancel it.
I started crying and begging her not to do this to us, that she just ruined our vacation. I also explained to her that we get two weeks of vacation a year and that our second week was already scheduled for September 2, 2011 for our cruise. She did not care. I asked her when she was going to tell me the bad news and she told me that she usually calls a couple of days before the travel, which I think it is not customer friendly to tell travelers that the planned itinerary is no longer the option.
On July 7, 2011 at around 4:30 PM, she finally transferred me to her supervisor, Steve **. He already knew about the problem and just confirmed the information that Cynthia had already told me. I also begged to Steve to change the time or the day for the week of travel, in which he told me, "You know you can only leave on a Tuesday and come back on a Thursday," as the agreement says. He then told me that he was willing to give me another option which was $200 cash and take care of the trip myself.
I did not accept it because with $200, there is no way I could find last minute airline tickets for this price. I got home and asked Steve to speak to my husband. My husband did not want the $200 either. He told Steve that we wanted our trip to Las Vegas, as previously agreed. They started arguing and raising their voices and Steve hung up on my husband. They never called us back.
On July 8, 2011, I called Welks Resort at 1-800-652-0056, to explain the situation and I was referred to speak to Jason **, a supervisor. I left two messages but he did not return my call.
The week of July 12 to July 15 was a waste of vacation time. We spent the week at home. It was very hard for my husband to take time off from work because his schedule is very strict. They have to make sure that another truck driver covers his schedule. Vacation time for us is very important and we always plan ahead very carefully. We were home so sad and depressed. I had migraine headaches all week just remembering the nightmare that we went through with people from Gateway Travel. It was a very frustrating and stressful situation. We took a lot of emotional abuse!
On July 18, 2011, we decided to file a complaint with BBB via email. Complain ID **. I asked for $1,000 to cover for a trip to Las Vegas on our own schedule and arrangements, probably until next year. And we also want to make sure that Gateway Travel and Welk Resorts do not mislead any more customers, resulting on a waste of earned vacation time that we eagerly wait for.
On July 21, 2011, Steve from Gateway Travel called me to tell me that he was very sorry about cancelling our vacation. He tried to offer me a trip to Las Vegas for three nights instead of two nights and leaving from San Diego at any time any day. I just needed to tell him when and he would schedule it. I asked him why he did not give me this option the week of July 7, when I begged him for it. He told me that I did not ask him for it. This is a big lie. I then told him that it is a nightmare dealing with him.
Now, he is trying to make it look like he is very concerned about us. I told him that I was going to ask my husband. Steve told me to tell my husband that the $1,000 we asked for is not going to work.
On July 21, 2011, I asked my husband, but his only day off is Sundays so there is no possible way to take any time off again, even on a weekend.
On July 22, 2011, I sent an email to Steve to tell him that we cannot accept his new option.
On July 24, 2011, I went to Sports Arena Swat meet and spoke to Marc **, event supervisor from Welk Resorts. We told him about the problem. He appeared to be very concerned and he said that he was going to refer the problem to Sterling **, his Supervisor at 1-800-652-0056. They don't want Gateway Travel to treat customers the way they treated us.
On July 25, 2011, an email received from Steve said, “As I said, I want to resolve. When can we talk?” I responded via email, “Please see the BBB correspondence with our proposal.”
On July 26, 2011, Steve from Gateway Travel called me again to tell me that the $1,000 is not going to work and that he is going to send his response to BBB. No response was submitted to BBB.
Someone needs to stop these people from ruining vacation time that is so hard to earn. And we counted the days for July 12 to come and what a disappointment! All he said is "Sorry".
On July 26, 2011, I found information about Seagull Vacations. It has the same address, phone number, same employee names and Steve Steer was the President. These two companies appear to be the same, yet the name was changed to Gateway Travel.
Seagull Vacations have about 115 complaints with Better Business Bureau (BBB) in Phoenix, Arizona. Welk Resorts have been using both companies, Seagull Vacations and Gateway Travel, knowing that this is a scam.
Reviewed Jan. 21, 2011
We were asked to come visit the Welk Resort in San Diego, and see if we would be interested in a timeshare. We declined the offer, not only because of cost, also because of income requirements. After the presentation, they had us talk to another sales person to see if we could reconsider at an even lower price. However, we were not interested still. They offered us a "free" trip to Cabo San Lucas to see their new hotel (and another presentation). My husband was trying to surprise me with that as a birthday present, and booked it with a $50 deposit on our debit card.
Months went by, and we came into some serious financial debt. So, there was no way that we could make this trip. And honestly, we completely forgot about it because we never received a confirmation. Apparently, in the "small print", they state that if you do not cancel the reservation two weeks before the reservation date, they will charge you $250.00. So, the other day, we noticed that our bank account had been depleted, because they took the money out. As I mentioned, we were never given confirmation for the resort (other than the charge to our account for the deposit), so we completely forgot about it.
When I called to speak to Tammy (our "travel specialist"), she was rude and not helpful at all. She stated that the $250.00 charge was in the contract. I gave a rebuttal to her that it also stated in the contract that they did not accept debit cards (which they did from us) and you had to make $75,0000 a year (which we do not), be creditworthy (with which we are filing bankruptcy), and that we should have gotten a confirmation letter via email no later than 72 hours after booking the vacation. I called Tammy again when I did not receive a response for my rebuttal. And my wife also called her. She will not credit the money back to the account.
Reviewed Aug. 16, 2010
I went to Branson and was talked into buying a time share by Welk Resort. When I got home, I cancelled the contract because I had a minimum time to cancel. So, I called Mr. ** and I also made an email to him. He replied back stating he was going to refund my money of $200.00. I saved all emails and have copies and certified letters etc. Is this how they do business, by stealing and lying to consumers to get their hard earned money? I want my refund of $200.00 back. They have not replied back to me as of 08/16/2010.
Reviewed Oct. 29, 2009
Please beware. My husband and I went to a timeshare presentation at Welk Resort with the promise of a "4 Free Nights in London." Once we said no to the timeshare, we were given a certificate through Seagull Vacations Inc. to redeem our vacation. This company is a scam. They send you a travel itinerary and request $79 to pay for taxes and fees then you never receive a confirmation. We called every day leading up to our "trip" and finally got a confirmation for our hotel. When we showed up at the hotel, the reservation was not paid for and the credit card on file was declined. As a result, we lost $735.04 on the hotel room plus the $79.00 "taxes and fees."
Reviewed March 27, 2009
I purchased a timeshare from the Welk Resort group. Everything went fine until one month they did not take out the monthly mortgage payment. They never sent me any type of bill or correspondence stating that there was any problem with the account. I have never been notified that there was any problems with the account until I was contacted by a collection agency. I immediately phoned Welk Resort's customer service department and was treated very rudely by a manager who would only identify herself as Fey. They would not help me in any way, shape or form and I now have a negative mark on my credit history because of their mistake. Thank you for your time.
Reviewed Jan. 14, 2009
Bill ** from Welks Resort did a sales pitch for us, showing us how we could essentially rent our weeks every year through Welks and pay off 10 year annual mortgage. Once the mortgage was paid for we would have 4 weeks of our own to vacation. When we tried to start the rental process, the rates were less than half what Bill had said, the commission rates were more than double, and the number of weeks we were allowed to rent was half. Over the next 10 year, we owe $6,000/year to pay off the timeshare. At Welk's new rules we will earn $1,800/year from renting. A loss of about $45,000 to us.
Reviewed Oct. 12, 2002
All we want is fairness. We paid $1000 and the Lawrence Welk group delivered nothing in return.
We wasted 5 days (trips to Escondido). We also have to make alternate vacation plans and pay higher airfares due to the timing.
Welk Resort Group Company Information
- Company Name:
- Welk Resort Group
- Company Type:
- Private
- Year Founded:
- 1964
- Address:
- 300 Rancheros Drive
- City:
- San Marcos
- State/Province:
- CA
- Postal Code:
- 92069
- Country:
- United States
- Website:
- welkresorts.com
