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Did you buy Long Term Care Insurance from John Hancock? In 2003 my husband and I enrolled in the John Hancock Long Term Care Insurance. What was particularly appealing to this policy is that it partnered with New York State. About five years ago they increased our premium: mine increased 100% - it doubled! My husband’s increased 60%. Last year we got another notice of premium increase, this time of 15% with definitely more to follow in the near future. I see this as a clear example of “bait and switch”. We are in a no-win situation. We have paid them thousands of dollars over the past sixteen years. If we drop out now we have really lost this money! If we stay in we can’t afford the increases as both of us are retired and live on Social Security.
I appealed to the New York State Department of Financial Services. They were not helpful, saying that John Hancock legally can do this. While this may be legal, I see it as unethical and situations like this need to be addressed legally. I also appealed to Senator Gillibrand’s office and a staff member got back to me saying nothing could be done. I think all of us in this situation need some form of re-dress. Contact your State Senators and your representative in Congress. Maybe if enough complaints pour in something positive may happen. If John to S Hancock made a mistake in setting their original premium amounts then they should be responsible for their mistake, not us. Ask John Hancock be refrained from any further premium increases and/or return the thousands of dollars people have paid in useless premiums over the years. Act Now!
My husband died on Jan 18, 2019. In the last 14 weeks my agent & I have sent 2 official copies of his DC as requested, 1 photocopy & one obituary. JH been called by two agents explaining that the requested official DC has been sent twice. In today's mail was yet a third request for an official DC. I only ordered 10 copies of my husband's DC. I refuse to send a third copy. These people are either totally inept or they enjoy tormenting people. I would not recommend them to anybody and certainly plan to lodge a complaint with the BBB and the insurance commission.
My husband and I paid faithfully into our Long Term Care Policies. Now we live in Assisted Living and husband is using his policy. Every month is stressful when trying to be reimbursed. One staff person will say that John Hancock never received the invoice. The next person will say that the invoice was late. They are dishonest. No one says the same. They will not permit anyone to talk to a supervisor/manager. Gave the wrong phone no. I am sorry we bought from John Hancock. I thought the name meant a reputable Company, but not so.
My mom has had a Long Term Care Policy since 1993. Now that she needs it, we can't get the reimbursement. Have met all requirements and deductibles. Have submitted claims. No answer. We call and there is always some sort of excuse. Going on my third call now. I have seen a few stories on this site that mirror my story. In my opinion this is financial exploitation of the elderly. If I get another excuse, then I will have to get a hold of the Insurance Commissioner of Washington, or possible an attorney.
John Hancock is a large company with a generally good reputation, but I would advise staying away from them. In my case, they have not honored their commitment on a long-term care policy. I purchased two long-term care policies from John Hancock eleven years ago when my wife and I were 54 years old. We have made the premium payments without fail. However, because John Hancock underestimated the cost of delivering the promised benefits, they have come back to us three separate times in eleven years to reduce coverage and change the payment terms.
What would happen if the situation was reversed and they overestimated the price of premiums? I am guessing that they would not send me a check! Imagine what would happen if you bought life insurance or an annuity and they changed the coverage because they had underestimated the cost. Each person must make their own choice, of course, but there will be no more John Hancock insurance in our house. You may contact me if you want details.
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Policy states product ceases when all monies used up OR for the life of the policy holder. Numerous calls and emails to no avail. JH denies their language in the policy. Any class actions suits I can join?
Policy states product ceases when all monies used up OR for the life of the policy holder. Numerous calls and emails to no avail. JH denies their language in the policy. Any class actions suits I can join?
I purchased John Hancock LTC insurance 16 years ago when I was 52. I purchased the inflation and lifetime riders. Four years ago, before John Hancock was sold to a Canadian company, premium increases (as reported by the news on most LTC insurers) were sent to me. I was given options: Keep the benefits and increase the premium, keep the premium but reduce the benefits by either dropping the inflation rate and/or length of the lifetime term to 10 or less years. Since both of these riders are no longer offered and YOUR health and longevity determine the odds of your needing the benefits, I looked at my own case and determined that I would keep both benefits but reduce the annual inflation increase from 5% to 2.5%.
My mother is currently using her John Hancock LTC benefits at an assisted-living home. After the 90 days elimination period, my sister worked with my mother's John Hancock LTC agent (as is instructed by John Hancock) and set up an account for John Hancock to automatically deposit the monthly reimbursement invoiced by the home. Yes, it took about 3 months to get all the paperwork filed and processed but the payments were retroactive. The John Hancock LTC website has instructions on how to file claims. You should work through your agent to be sure the claims are processed effectively and efficiently. There are rules that John Hancock LTC needs to follow so you, too, should follow the rules.
John Hancock is the Absolute worst company I have EVER dealt with when it comes to customer service! We have been paying premiums with them since 2010. The current premium they charged for my mother is almost $14,000 per year. I submitted a claim in August 2017, which was subsequently "approved" in November 2017. Since then they have continued to ask for premium payments (even though no additional premium payments should be due once a claim is approved). Additionally they keep stalling and asking for additional information which has now been presented to them 2 and 3 times.
It seems that they continue to lose faxed documents in their interoffice mail system. It has now been 9 months since the claim was initiated, and 6 months since it was "approved." I have even recently gotten in touch with the State Attorney General's office to investigate this claim, and the company's business ethics in general. I am hopeful to be given some relief, but it is too early to tell. Even after informing a supervisor from John Hancock of my opening a case with the state attorney general, they still have lacked any urgency in returning any of my calls, faxes or emails. I am not suggesting that long term care is not a beneficial and even at times necessary insurance, but I would look for any other option besides John Hancock.
I am the adult daughter of a policyholder. My mother complained about the premium increase but she continued to pay each year from age 60 to 81. She died suddenly 6 months ago leaving my father who is 87 and has dementia. All of her benefits were assigned to him. I came to this site and read these reviews which was very troubling. I also read the policy. At first we kept my dad at home with home health agency. After getting through the 90-day elimination period, the checks started coming. This policy has provided us with much peace of mind about how we will take care of my dad. I am so thankful that my mom gave us this gift. We have asked the home health agency and an assisted living residence about their experience working with John Hancock, the response has been very positive. They do what they say they will do and they pay what they promised.
Each month they pay more for Dad's care than an entire year's premium. Our experience with their customer service has also been positive. Because of our experience with John Hancock we looked into buying a policy from them only to find they no longer sell them. As many of the other reviewers, I do not really trust insurance companies. They have raised your premiums and they are hoping you will drop the policy. If you really want to get back, keep paying the premiums.
Too pissed to go into detail. I'm cancelling my policy TODAY!! I found out that in order for them to honor my policy, they're increasing my monthly payment. And, this is just the 1st price increase, there will be several more in the future. After "donating" $23,550, I feel conned.
In May 2000 I took out John Hancock long term care policies for myself and wife. In March of 2017 they increased the premiums outrageously forcing me to relinquish my policy and reduce benefits drastically for my wife. This March they were back with another large increase with, by their admission, with more to come. I exercised Contingent Nonforfeiture Benefit on both policies, stopping premiums and leaving minimal benefit if policies ever exercised. They, as any company went into to the long term care business with eyes wide open, and through the years although some increases would be justified, this was a power play to get out of policies. They should quit writing policies and honor their current commitments. They should be investigated! I sincerely hope I never have any further dealings with this company as I have very little confidence I would ever receive even what I have invested to date.
I am a single male, never married. As a state employee I took out this policy when I was 42 - 11 years ago. About halfway through that time they tried to raise the premium on me or offered to take reduced coverage for a slightly lower premium. I opted for the reduced coverage. I was hoping that would be it. Now that I'm 53 they once again are raising their premium and saying that since I was already at the lowest premium there are no other options other than not pay lose the benefit. I thought I would be locked in and premiums would not increase because of my age, health (I'm healthy) but they can increase it anytime they want to.
On top of that I never hear from them unless they want money. They auto bill my checking account. I never get a statement and there is no log in to the website. I can't even access MY POLICY to see what coverages I have. This seems illegal. Unfortunately if I want the coverage I am so far into it, that I don't have a lot of options. I figured if I had some sort of coverage that I would get into a better place or have better treatment than those that do not.
Insurance companies employ large numbers of actuaries to determine risks associated with products they intend to market. The companies then price policies accordingly and consumers who buy these products do so with the understanding that risk has been analyzed, accepted by the insurance company, and priced into premiums. This is especially challenging when the risks involve life expectancy and long term care (LTC) unlike, say, insuring a car or a home. Nevertheless, companies including John Hancock assumed LTC risks with their eyes open! A thoughtful person could easily understand that actuarial forecasts regarding a particular product cannot always be 100% accurate. That is an integral part of the overall risk insurance companies take. Some products of a large diversified insurer such as John Hancock lose money over time while others make money.
If they are expert at what they do overall, winners outshine losers and the company and its shareholders benefit accordingly. Insurance agents who sell life and/or LTC policies strongly stress the size, historical reliability and staying power of the insurer they represent. The sale is closed on the understanding that if originally agreed premiums are regularly paid, and the insured dies or the LTC need presents itself, the company will be there to pay up and the policyholder can do her or his retirement and estate planning accordingly. (Fine print, if any, need not factor into purchase decisions thanks to the gold plated reputation of the company). Just as the life insurance policyholder cannot imagine premiums being raised as death draws nearer, the LTC policyholder cannot imagine premium increases when earnings are reduced and health issues and associated costs are closing in.
Unfortunately and devastatingly, the mutual trust and obligations involved in selling and buying LTC policies are recklessly negated when LTC insurers, after setting premiums and selling policies for many years, successfully appeal to regulators to have their LTC losses (or projected losses) put on the backs of policyholders. The policyholders impacted have held up their end of the bargain, in many cases for decades. Regulators should send LTC insurers back where they came from, told to eat their mistakes and to be more careful next time around. Period!
I agree with James from Dayton, Ohio... I am having serious doubts about this company. I do not like the idea of how they want payments also. I have always paid thru electronic payment thru my bank account and was set up (BY ME) to have paid by the first of the month. We now have two choices, twice a year payment OR they will pull payment from my account every month. No one gets into any of my accounts. Can they even do this? Force payments like this? Not real sure of understanding all the rate increases either. I do wish someone would look into this. Not sure really how to rate this either.
As with James of Dayton, OH, we too are being hit with a very substantial rate increase (our third one in 16 years). Hancock also says that they plan to follow up with the same percentage increase in at least each of the next three years. We understand increased costs but believe these increases are grossly unfair. We policyholders are now quite senior and bought on the basis of John Hancock’s good name. No doubt that we will soon be priced out of our care policies as we survive on social security plus small savings. I would like to join a class action lawsuit against John Hancock to limit or stop future premium increases.
I have a long term health care policy which is limited in total payout and length of term for the payout, yet John Hancock claims they are raising my premium because people are living longer and the cost of long term health care is going up. Neither of those things should affect me or them, yet they will not budge. I have contacted the Ohio Department of Insurance and they, so far, are not willing to fight the issue. I have made contact with several lawyers who say that I have a good case but they want to give ODI more time to come around. My question is: "How many other policies are out there just like mine which would be candidates for class action lawsuit? Remember, if you have a policy which pays out until death with no defined end, you are no in my boat.
My family and I have had the worst experience with the company! A relative started a claim when she didn't feel well and I took over as her power of attorney a few month later. The documents were constantly being returned to make small changes. Even after making the change, the same document would come back for another change. Their legal group would flip-flop on advice, so I had to get my an attorney. They would request documentation that did not make sense; if the documentation wasn't returned within 30 or 45 days, then the claim process would stop. With slow mail forwarding and caring for someone out of town, this was not a lot of time.
Five months after the application process was started, my relative died. I shifted from power of attorney to a trustee. This change pretty much started the whole application process over. I continued the process to be reimbursed for the medical bills. More documentation was requested with timelines. After lots of paperwork shuffling, the application was approved! I sent the claim in for reimbursement. I received a letter saying I couldn't file a claim and they needed additional documentation proving I could legally make a claim. They would only accept a certain document, but it wasn't done in my state. I had to have my attorney talk with them to accept another document, which they agreed to.
I spoke with representatives many times and they said this was the LAST document needed. (The phone folks are always nice, but they are just a middle person.) I sent in the documentation, and they sent a letter saying the document wasn't good and additional information was needed. Some of the requested information was sent in months before. I'm having an attorney deal with them exclusively from now. The death of a loved one is heavy, and this company makes the situation worst.
Just received a letter from J.H. informing me that they will no longer bill by the month. Starting in 2018, they will only bill semi-annually. That means all of their customers will have to pay their premiums six months in advance or allow J.H. access to my bank account for monthly withdraws. As retired IT professional, anyone giving a vendor access to your bank account is just asking for disaster. Easy to start but really hard to undo.
Basically, I will give them a six month interest free loan and they will save the cost of billing. This will make a nice increase in profit and probably force a lot of long term customers off their rolls with policies that you can't buy anymore. Which means they will no longer have to service policies that are unprofitable for them but they were OK when they wrote them long ago. Sound like something Trump would think of. I've had this policy since 1995. I guess this is a no big deal since from what I read from consumer sites J.H. usually find a way to delay payment for as long as possible or deny them all together.
Updated on Dec 22, 2017: We just received our invoice for the January 2018 payment. They have begun billing in six month increments. Which means our $161.02 monthly payment goes to $966.12. That's the minimum payment due. We bought our policy back in 1990 like a lot of other people. Those policies are great and they are no longer available. Which means that they will be expensive to service if required which is probable due to people living longer and better medical care.
So, John Hancock came up with a brilliant idea: A. Save a lots of money by ending monthly billing. B. Up the ante for policyholders to keep their policy. (A lot of them will not be able to make the payment so, they lose their policy.) To make it simple; We are playing poker and I see you only have $100 so I raise you $1,000. You fold & you're out of the game. It may not be that bad because from the reviews from consumer sites this company is really good at taking your money but good luck when it's time for them to pay.
My dad is 90, my mom is 87. Now it is time for them to use this insurance that they have paid on for years. They have gotten the runaround and now like other that have filed a complaint on here their premiums have gone up where they can not even afford them. People, please do not take out this insurance. Put your money in a saving account where you will be comfortable about knowing the money will be there when you get ready to use it. This insurance is a big joke, and the folks that give it a four or five star must not be near the age to even use it. The agent is no help nor is the company that they got it thru. Please put your money in a safe place where it is FDIC insured as this company has already proven to fail...
I am 80 years old and have carried LTC insurance with JHLIC for over 20 years. Just received notice from JHLIC that my premium will increase 40% over the next 4 years (40% is maximum allowed by the insurance commission) and a promise to expect future increases. The reasons for the increases are "due to people living longer than expected." I can't believe that when I took out the policy that the insurance industry didn't know that life expectancy was on the increase.
I made a contract with JHLIC and paid my premiums on time. Now other party to the contract wants to make continuing coverage financially impossible. Initially, I made a contract with JHLIC, both of us took risks, now they don't like the exposure to their side of the risk, and through pricing want to eliminate their risk. If JHLIC made a bad business decision their company must live with it not try to get out of it through pricing. I am hoping that through a class action suit that the thousands of policy holders will be able to get relief.
My 87 yr old mother paid into this for decades. She has been in an assisted living facility for 3 months and has received $0 because of their constant run around and broken promises. They are purposely doing everything in their power to keep her from her money. Every single time in my over 23+ phone calls I'm given a different story by a different phone rep. Speaking to supervisors is a joke. By their actions I can truly say they have no concern or compassion whatsoever for their customers. They repeatedly send my mother letters making demands that have no merit and then after I spend hours (literally!) clearing their mistakes they say they'll send a retraction letter. When I tell them that my mother can't sleep at night and is in tears over this... No response. Every week since July 1, we've been getting the mantra, "The money will be dispersed within 10 business days."
Just got notice our Long Term Care insurance premiums are rising 15% over next 3 years (5% each year) and there is NOTHING we can do about it (except change to lower coverage at lower premiums). What a "bait and switch"!! Entice with reasonable rates and premiums & now that we are 6 years into paying premiums (significant investment), they gouge us with ridiculous increases and we are stuck! Plus they can and likely will increase our premiums again & again!!
Their explanation was a simple sentence that said the increase was due to "people living longer". While this explanation might make sense if I had purchased lifetime medical coverage, but my LT Care benefits are defined and capped, so whether I live to be 70 or 90, other than the inflation provision, my benefits are still capped. However, if I live longer, they'll actually benefit by getting added years of premium payments from me. With this policy, if we are living longer, I would think our rates should decrease since they will get more premiums for the same capped benefit!
Obviously, the cost of my insurance is NOT increasing to John Hancock, they are just including us in their need/desire to raise added money to cover other areas within their company. I am hoping that someone starts a class action suit against these increases, as I will definitely JUMP IN!!! Warning... when dealing with insurance companies (all types of insurance and annuities) definitely read and ensure the policy specifically states that the premiums can NOT change and they can NOT change/decrease any of the provisions or benefits (our agent said that increases were not likely as this was a defined and capped program).
Unfortunately, I don't think you will find this... so AVOID these policies that allow them to increase your rates at will, or you WILL be sorry!! They will definitely increase your rates & there is nothing you can do! I sure hope the benefits are there when/if we need them, since we are now paying a small fortune for a policy we may not even use.
When I was sixty years old I took out my Long-Term Care Insurance with John Hancock. The effective date was May 03, 2002. John Hancock placed the policy with Fortis Long Term Care which was administered by John Hancock at that time. The Automatic Benefit increase was 5% Simple. Total Premium at that time was $3,423.32. I was told there would be no premium increases and all the other untruths that so many people are now aware of.
Over the years things did change a lot. The inflation rate kept being lowered in order to keep the same Premium Rate or you were offered a higher rate to keep a 5% Simple. Fortis dropped out of the picture and now it is Union Security Insurance Company. Things got really horrid on their last letter filled with more deception (February 27th, 2017). Now the inflation rate to keep your Premium Rate is 0.5% Simple. Or pay almost $7,000.00 dollars a year for 2.4% Simple Inflation.
There is still the chance of further increases no matter what you pay. This was a brilliant premeditated LONG-TERM CARE FRAUD well thought out a long time ago. The end result would be the policy would become worthless based on the fact of their constant reductions and inflation rates in Nursing Homes. They say it is not a discriminatory policy increase. Baloney. They know the ages of every single group of policyholders. I am waiting for the Class Action Suit. For now my choice is to take the lower 0.5% Simple just to have some coverage. I have NEVER had a claim in these 16 years and I pray I never do. All I can say is I hope some brave Law Firm beats their brains in.
John Hancock helped my family when we were in need through my dad's long term care policy with them. We moved him into an assisted living facility in April 2016, filed the claim with John Hancock, and it was approved in a timely manner. They sent a nurse out to talk to my dad and did a much more thorough investigation than another insurance company that he had a long term care policy with. They also always paid what they said they would and were very professional. I highly recommend them!
John Hancock LTC Insurance is one of the biggest scams out there. Please avoid at all costs in that it will only succeed in depleting your cash savings. They are great in accepting premiums but when claims against the policy are filed they give nothing but the runaround. We filed a claim on behalf of my mother who was diagnosed with Alzheimer disease. They sent a nurse (debatable) to examine my mother and after 20 minutes of testing determined that she was fine. Not sure what the test were that she was given but this diagnosis was completely ludicrous.
My mom doesn't know what day it is, what medications she is on, when to take her medication even when put out in front of her. Will not eat unless meals are prepared for her. She has very little sense of rational thinking. John Hancock continues to delay, delay, delay its ruling until they notify us that we must re-submit another claim because time has run out. This has been going on for about a year. What a rip-off organization.
Always helpful when I call in to talk with a representative. My questions were answered promptly and they give me what I need to feel secure and confident about the future. If I had to go with another provider I am not sure I could get the same coverage at the price. Also, the coverage is great. They provide a great value at an affordable price. I can't say the same for some of the other providers I have used in the past.
The agents are very knowledgeable and friendly. They are eager to assist and always willing to go the extra mile to help and make sure that all questions have been answered. They provide a wide range of coverage and plans, making it easy to choose which best fits your personal budget, needs and goals. I'm happy to have the knowledge and ability to know that no matter what happens I am secure and am able to face whatever comes at me ahead in my life. It makes me feel comforted that my family has the security of knowing that if anything happens that they are not going to adversely affected and that security is worth the world to me.
They have the best customer service anywhere. They are very knowledgeable nice, and try to help you any way they possibly can. Very willing to answers all questions. They also explain every possible scenario with you, and always asking if you want certain things you don't think of at the time. We went over several different policies and the people were always patient when I didn't understand each policy and new things I've never heard of. I have the best coverage they offer, and the value is excellent. Wouldn't want to deal with anybody else. Money is not easy to come by and they realize and care about you and finances.
The customer service has been satisfactory and well worth the money. Friendly employees and very helpful when I've needed to talk to them. They have a Good range of policy options used to meet many wide ranges of people and options. They are tailored to meet the needs of the one applying. My long term care coverage is great and covers a lot. It meets my needs and I'm often updated on new options to add to my coverage as they appear. It is well worth what I pay since it covers a lot as compared to other company's values side by side.
John Hancock Long-Term Care Insurance expert review by Matthew Brodsky
John Hancock insures more than 3.5 million policyholders, paying out $2.3 billion each year in claims. The company's A+ rating from A.M. Best lets consumers buy with confidence, as it shows John Hancock's ability to meet its financial obligations.
Easy online premium estimator: Although other companies make you call to find out any information about costs, John Hancock uses an online estimator that can give you a ballpark figure based on age, sex and state of residence.
Compare different options: There is a comprehensive overview of the different packages available and an explanation of the coverage for different tiers.
Lifestyle benefits adjustments available: A policy change doesn't mean you need a new policy. Instead, John Hancock works with your existing policy to adjust coverage levels and premiums to meet your current needs.
Step-by-step online instructions: Buying a policy or filing a claim are easy through John Hancock. They put the instructions right on their website to make the process streamlined for policyholders and new customers.
Solid financial ratings: John Hancock has been rated A+ by A.M. Best, demonstrating their financial health and ability to meet their obligations to policyholders.
Best for: Employers, parents, retirees and the elderly.
John Hancock Long-Term Care Insurance Company Information
- Company Name:
- John Hancock Long-Term Care Insurance
- Year Founded:
- John Hancock Safe Access Account, C-5 P.O. Box 790
- Postal Code:
- United States
- (800) 395-1113