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lisa of brewton, AL October 30, 2009 About four years ago I opened a paypal account under a non-profit...a few months later paypal decided they needed to see the paper work to show it was a non-profit...until it was sent in they limited my acount. paypal limited my acount because they wanted to see IRS papers about the non-profits...I sent the paper work two times and they still did not lift the limit...first they would not let me take money from the acount...so my money was trapped and then they said I could take money from the acount but not add to it...I was so glad to be able to finally get my money so I took it all out and said to hell with this acount and paypal. About 4 months I came across some items that I wamted to sell on the internet...so I opened up a paypal acount under the name -----...I always liked the name and I thought it would make a great business name. Of course, I added ma bank acount and was verified. After I sold my first item I was shocked to find out that I could not get my money for the item...the item had been shipped and delivered...but I had to wait for positive feedback or three weeks to be able to get my money...so i had to e-mail all of my buyers and ask them to leave me positive feedback so I could get my money...one of them did not leave any feedback (even though I asked her to) so I had to wait until paypal released it. The first big ticket item I sold was for $2,000...so I made sure that the buyer knew he had to leave positive feedback ASAP so I could get my money and he did. A sale I made after that... that the buyer was very happy with left me positive feedback but I had to call paypal to get them to release the money...by this time I am just ready to close my account and sell another way. I go to my acount and try to transfer money to my checking acount and they tell me I can only transfer $84...because I have a $500 a month limit and that is all that's left for the month of September...then since all of my money is released I try to close the account and they tell me because of the $500 limit that they have put on my money...I can't close the acount because it would exceed the limit...since my acount had over $2,000 in it. They tell me I can lift the limit if I give them my social security number so I try...but remember that other acount at the beginning I mentioned...it has my social attached tied to it so I can't use it...so i go to that account and fine out that it is still open but blocked! I try to close it but they won't let me close it because it was limited and I needed to send up some files(the same files I had sent up twice)to lift the limit so I can close it so I can get my money out of the other acount. I have been working on this since the 26 of October and still I CANNOT get my money...MY MONEY111 My items have been delivered to the customer and they are satisfied but I can't get my money. No bank I ever dealt with will not give you your money...paypal is out of control!!! melanie of irvine, CA October 27, 2009 I am a seller on Paypal and I recently sold an item to Kirsten. She received the item, either didn't like the boots or wore and damaged them and then filed a Paypal claim when I refused a partial refund and asked her to email me photographs of the damage. I also asked her for further explanation as to what she was referring to concerning damage and she didn't clarify. She said that ebay discourages communications outside of the ebay messaging system so she did not want to send the photos. Ebay discourages it to prevent people from completing transactions, not from resolving disputes. The problem here is not just that she filed a false claim, it is that Paypal awarded it with no evidence whatsoever from her to show that the boots were in a damaged condition when she received them. When you look at the feedback that Kirsten has left for others, it is evident that she makes a practice of buying from people on ebay and complaining to extract a refund. She has few feedback but clearly knows the system and knows how to exploit it to her advantage. IF she decides to return the boots after damaging them I will not only have damaged boots back, I will have to eat the cost for mailing them out to her. Paypal encourages this by siding with the buyer without question. Carolyn of Waynesboro, VA October 24, 2009 On Oct. 07, 2009 I sold an item on eBay, the other party paid and I immediately printed a shipping label. A few hours later PayPal closed my account and limited my access. I attempted to refund the money as PayPal is keeping the money the other party paid for 6 months they took the money from my checking account that bounced 3 other payments I had used my account to pay bills. So far PayPal has cost my personal account $365.67. The other party still doesn't have their item and PayPal has all the money. I recently received an e-mail that says they are suspending my account indefinitely. With no chance of returning my account in good standing. I had never done anything to break their "RULES" I only sold a used item on eBay which closed my account as well because of PayPal's decision to close my account. $365.67 and two closed accounts - eBay and PayPal. I have lost my business due to this reckless decision PayPal has done to me as I am no longer able to make a living selling on eBay. Henry of New York, NY October 18, 2009 I am writing in regards to the unfair practice PayPal engages in and how they are falsely advertising their Seller Protection Policy to lure customers into joining their service. Two months ago, I sold an iPhone 3G on eBay to the highest bidder, who happened to be in the United Kingdom. I was hesitant to follow through with the auction because what was written negatively on his feedback page and how low his positive percentage was. Having been an eBay and Paypal user of over ten years with over 300 positive feedback at a 100% score, I have usually been very careful with all my auctions and the way I conduct business on these two sites. In the last year alone, I have been scammed twice and I understand that PayPal customers are becoming easier targets because of the phishing scams out there that are sometimes hard to evade. As a long time user, after getting burned back in March, I made sure to read and re-read the new and updated PayPal policy and inform myself of what I needed to do, to the best of my understanding. I decided to go ahead and ship this item using international customs tracking at the post office. Any other type of tracking was not available, according to the post office guidelines on usps.gov and the attendant I worked with, for international door to door tracking. The customs tracking number would be enough, I was told, and on their website, you would be able to track the package to the destination as close as possible. After I shipped my item, a few weeks passed and the buyer filed a dispute that he never received the item. I was asked by PayPal to provide the tracking number but I could not find it immediately. I had to figure out through the post office and the NYPD how to retrieve that and by the time I had PayPal already sided with the buyer despite my pointing out that I needed sometime and to also consider the years I've done business with PayPal and eBay coupled with my feedback vs. his. They closed the dispute and I was out approximately $400.00. According to their policy, I should have been protected and I wasn't. What's the point of having said policy when they refuse to protect you when said protection is required? I do not know what to do next, but I will exhaust all necessary means to get my money back and hopefully make a case out of this to warn other users that the Seller Protection Policy does not really protect you. Carol of Schenectady, NY October 7, 2009 I received this e-mail today10/07/09, and it didn't sound legitimate so I am sending it to you. Could you please advise. Thank you "Notification : Update Your Account Information/ From: PayPal/Information Regarding Your Account: We have noticed several attempts of fraud. Seems like a third party tried to access your account. You are able to log into your account but all your payments are suspended untill you verify your personal information. PayPal works day and night to help keep your identity safe. That's why it has come to our attention that your PayPal account information needs to be verified as part of our continuing commitment to protect your account and to reduce the instance of fraud on our website. If you could take 5-10 minutes out of your online experience and verify your personal records you will not run into any future problems with the online service. Important Notice : Failure to confirm your full credit card & billing information within 72 hour's will result with your account suspension...." Lisa of Springfield, OH October 7, 2009 I sold crystal stemware for $185 on ebay to a buyer in Hawaii. She complained that she didnt recv the merchandise after a couple weeks, and filed dispute with paypal. Paypal reversed the payment back to her out of my account. Meanwhile, I checked with Post office who said 30 days must go by before filing lost pkg form. (Ins was purchased) After 30 days...postmaster followed up and within a couple days determined the package had been delivered the day AFTER Paypal gave the buyer her $ back. She used the tracking number on the insurance receipt but had to make a call b/c the tracking # didnt pull anything up online. This discrepancy seems to be the biggest issue with Paypal. I faxed the USPS forms, stamped..etc showing when delivered, but b/c it wasnt posted online, Paypal wont accept it. The buyer in HI has both the merchandise and the money and Paypal will not do anything, saying they acted within their guidelines. Michael, the exec of escalations says " he believes that I sent the pkg and in a timely fashion, etc...so he is willing to give me $100.!! My question, then is why wouldnt he just give me the money back? Why offer $100? Paypal can arbitrarily take $ out of my account at any time and is not a safe trading place for the seller at all. They assist fraudulant activity at the very least. Timothy of Waynesboro, VA September 28, 2009 I WAS a seller on ebay. First, PayPal closed my account with over $5000.00 in it and I had to refund each buyers purchase. Then ebay closed my account because PayPal had closed my account. My seller fees with ebay were over $300.00 which they made me pay, even though I canceled and refunded everyones purchase through PayPal. I have tried to start again with ebay and PayPal three different times and only lost more money. I a 55 years old and trying to take care of my wife and four children and this is my only income. cindi of chester, VA September 27, 2009 I made a payment to seller for $62.94, the money left my acct and before it could reach the sellers acct, Paypal closed my acct and they will not let me have my money back. They have very unfair practices, I want my Paypal balance so I can put it back in my bank acct. They took my hard earned money and I want my money from them, and I want you to investigate these people. Tom of Pittsford, NY September 18, 2009 I sold some trading cards on ebay to an individual in Italy. He claimed he never received them, so he filed a complaint with PayPal. I have proof of shipping, but I do not have proof of delivery. (It is impossible to track a shipment in Italy.) Because of no proof of delivery, PayPal took money out of my account (plus fees) to pay the individual. This is all in accord with Paypal's user agreement. There were no legal procedings of any kind, but PayPal believes it can help itself to my money without due process of law. Even a bank can not take money out of my account to settle a debt without a legal proceding. Many companies remove consumer rights with their agreements. i.e. forcing any dispute into binding arbitration. Dell Computers goes even further - besides requiring binding arbitration you can not join a class action lawsuit or states attorney general's actions. Christopher of Smithfield, RI July 30, 2009 I am having a problem with Paypal. I sold a used Rolls Royce car key to a person in the United Kingdom for $300 plus shipping. It's been only 21 days since the key was shipped, and the buyer has sent me a few e-mails claiming he never received the key. I told the buyer it takes time to ship items from the US to the UK, but he didn't want to hear it. The buyer filed a complaint with Paypal and escalated it to claim. My paypal account suddenly became overdrawn over $200. Not only did Paypal take the money out of my account, but they have limited my account until I resolve the negative balance! When I sold the key, I offered two forms of shipment in checkout; standard int'l shipping or express mail. I also set insurance to optional. The buyer only paid for standard int'l mail and neglected to pay for insurance! I sent the item USPS first class mail with a customs form number, which when plugged into the USPS website tells me that the item left the US, but nothing more than that. Paypal is now asking me to give them tracking info by Aug 8th which is in about 10 days. I think I will give them the tracking number on the 7th, hopefully this will buy me some time. The buyer is telling me that it's MY fault I did not send the item with insurance, even though he neglected to pay for it during checkout! How can I be expected to give the buyer a refund? It's not my fault the post office has lost the item! I do have a tracking number, but as of today it only states that the item was shipped out of the US, and that it will be updated later. It does not state the item was delivered. If the tracking info does not change to state the item was delivered, Paypal will probably reward the buyer a refund. What can I do to protect myself? How can they give the buyer his money back, taking it out of my account, when I did not do anything wrong and have no item to show for it? Jeff of Los Angeles, CA July 24, 2009 I sent a payment of $550 via PayPal to an associate. When I logged onto my PayPal account, my account balance was "$0.00." Therefore, I thought that I first needed to transfer money from my bank account to my Paypal account in order to send the money via Paypal. I transferred $550 from my bank acc't to Paypal, then I sent $550 to my associate. However, Paypal viewed this as TWO separate transactions and $550 was taken out of my bank account twice. I called Paypal and spoke with 2 representatives and both told me that there was nothing they could do even though one of the transactions was still pending. It took a week for the second $550 to clear my bank (causing a -$433.00 balance) and then for me to transfer the money back from Paypal to my bank account. It took a week for this to be resolved and for the money to be redesposited back into my bank account. I had to initiate the transfer back into my bank account. Paypal did NOTHING to help me. Karen of Junction City, OR July 9, 2009 I bought a pair of diamond earrings from a seller. These earrings were awfull so I sent them back to the same company address that I received them from. I mailed the item back on June 9th and they were signed for by one of the company representatives on June 11. I called Paypal to let them know this and they said I would need to fax them proof of service from the post office, which I did. I called yesterday and spoke with a man named Sean. He tried to tell me that Pay Pal had sent me an email telling me that the tracking information I had provided from the US Post office was no good, that the seller wasn't at the address I had sent the merchandise back to and that I would have to send the merchandise back to the right address. I asked this Sean how in the heck could I send back merchandise that had already been sent and recieved by this company on the 11th? He said he didn't know but that is what I had to do. Obviously I must have made this Sean mad, because after we got done talking, I went back to my Pay Pal account to look up the case and found it had been closed. Not only has Pay Pal caused me to lose my merchandise, but also the $120 I spent for it and now will probably not beable to recover. I just sent Pay Pal an email asking them to reopen this case of mine, but I bet they won't do it. I have documentations that will prove this company did not want to pay me back for the item, even though they admitted to me that they had received it back. HELP Scott of West Valley, UT July 9, 2009 I sold a used Ibanez TS-9 Reissue overdrive pedal in the original box with all original paperwork to this person on May 11, 2009. Shipping weight was 1 lb., 8.3 ounces as stated on my USPS shipping receipt. My cost was $8.80 with Delivery Confirmation. The actual pedal (no box, no packing, etc.) is 1.3 lbs.. The pedal worked perfectly when I shipped it, and when Exquant received it, as they left positive feedback on eBay. Over six weeks later they complained to PayPal that the pedal quit working after they sent it to another company to be modified. PayPal immediately put a hold on my account and put $71 on hold to pay Exquant with. A couple of days later they said his claim was valid and I was to pay the $71 and they would release the funds to him when he verified he had returnded the item to me in the exact condition it was received by him in. Several days later I received a small envelope with 3 IC's, 4 resistors and 4 capacitors in it along with a letter stating that these part were removed from the pedal, but there was no pedal. The envelope he sent weighed 3 or 4 ounces at most and cost only $2.02 to mail from Florida to Utah USPS First class WITH Delivery Confirmation. So the actual postage was really only $1.32 as DC costs $.70. So I appealed to PayPal. They asked for documentation. I sent my original receipts (with weight and costs) on it. I sent photos of what I had received (with the $2.02 postage showing), the components I received, and the letter more or less "taunting" me that these components had been removed from the pedal. I also had the original delivery confirmation receipt where I had sent it, which matched the number PayPal has on file. So if Exquant would be made to provide their receipt showing the weight of the package, one could determine that what I received weighed approx. 1/10th of what I sent to them. But one lady at PayPal stated oh it could have "dried out". It's made of steel and electronic components and a 9V battery. It weighs 1.3 pounds not in the box, no matter what. It doesn't "dry out". Another call to PayPal and I was told that maybe he got "a deal" on shipping. So I contacted the USPS and was told a 1.3 pound package would cost a minimum of $5.50 (including the Delivery Confirmation) to be sent to me. That is MINIMUM, parcel post cost. He sent it USPS First Class for $2.02, so it clearly did not weigh 1.3 lbs., absolutely, without a doubt. But PayPal says "he said he mailed it to you and we have a delivery confirmation number". I had to provide proof of the weight of what I sent to him, yet he has to only "say" he sent it back? My proof (and it is ironclad proof) is being ignored by the people at PayPal. The question is why? Probably because if they have to make him pay my money back, they have to give my the $2.36 PayPal seller fees they make me pay. And yes, they released the funds to Exquant on Monday, July 6, 2009. So I have no pedal (Exquant still has it) and he also has the $71 back. So I appealed to PayPal and they asked me to send an affadavit, fax information and photos of what I received. Well, I did all of that on Thursday, July 2nd, and it was deleted on Friday July 3rd. I resubmitted it on Monday July 6th and it was deleted on Wednesday July 7th (today). I resubmitted it once again today. PayPal is either woefully inept or outright thieves, and I can't figure out which. Each time they asked me for info, the very next day they'd rule against me, and Exquant had sent them nothing to prove anything. He just said it didn't work after more than six weeks. He could have dropped it in water, or otherwise broken it, or probably after he had it modified it didn't sound right to him so he complained to get his money back, and then knowing PayPal wouldn't do anything he sent me a worthless bag of parts and kept the pedal anyway. Jane of London, ON July 8, 2009 I purchased several pieces of jewellery on E-bay from a seller in China. The items arrived significantly not as described and some were damaged. I filed claims with Pay-Pal and they told me the seller was going to give me a full refund if I sent the items back to China, which I did. The postage cost me almost $50. To my amazement however, Paypal closed one of my claims against the seller for the reason that the tracking information I provided was invalid and the seller said he did not receive the items within 30 days. I sent Paypal a complaint letter about the 30 day limit as the items were going to China and I also sent them copies of the postal tracking information documents. Today I received an e-mail that they were closing another claim to the seller for the same reason as above. However, I checked on the Canada Post web site at it said that the package arrived to the destination country on July 6, 2009. Why didn't Paypal give me a refund, if they have a zero fraud policy and I was defrauded by the seller? Why wasn't the seller instructed to give me a refund? Why was I told by Paypal to ship the items back to China for $50 to get my money back and now it appears as though they just want to close my claims against the seller and not give me a refund? Trevor of Golden, CO June 24, 2009 I have been creating some software and use PayPal as the payment source to pay the people working on it. One of the people is in South America, and paypal wouldnt let me use my own credit card to pay and I had the option of linking my bank account (no thanks) or get their credit card. I figured, why not, I will just pay it off before the end of the month. Well the itnerested rate comes back after you get it at over 20%! My credit was above 750, and I still get a 23% credit rate! So I use the temporary card,and it gets maxed at the limit which wasnt very high. I call them and ask if I can pay it off so I can pay my people again, they say no the card has to show up and you have to activate it. Well, the card never showed up but they cant give me any more information becuase the card comes from GE Money bank, not them. So I cant pay my people, and everytime I call them I get transfered at least 5 times, but never get any help. This is terrible customer service, and it seems like a scam to me. My entire project is in jeopardy becuase of the cruddy practices of this company. Beware. use this for basic simple things, dont depend ont his service for anything important. Gary of Grove City, OH June 9, 2009 Can you actually contact PayPal and speak to someone? I can't find out how. I sold an item on eBay that was disputed by the buyer. A dispuite was filed. I offered a refund once the item was returned. The buyer had untill June 5, 2009 to return the item. He has not. The claim was supposed to be "automatically" closed on June 5th. It has not been. In the mean time I am out $157.00. Can't communicate with PayPal to find out why this has not been closed & my money given back to me. It is very frustrating when you can not get an answer or even find out how to get an answer. david of Sacramento, CA June 6, 2009 ebaysuccesssystems actually stole 39.95 from my paypal account without approval and authorization. I submitted 1.95 for ebay business information and actually charged 2.95. A couple days later they deducted 39.95 from my paypal account from my debit card. Paypal wants to suspend all activity from the card account before they investigate the transaction which amount to ZERO and the ebay company getting to keep the deduction and they don't even have a legit telephone number that paypal won't even verify. The telephone numbers only ring as busy or plays music for hours at a time with no live human contact. Paypal & Ebay has set up a systemt that will take monies from individual accounts and have no recourse as they work in cohoots with each other and sends the monies over seas that draws the whole complaint and affidavit process out, way beyond american identity theft laws and into personal accounts that are actually fake. I am so [upset] at both companies that I will probably go into the office the next time I'm in the bay area and just sock the CEO of ebay for theft and join any class action law suit against paypal that claims they are just a front for ebay and does nothing for the seller or on a flip side, the buyer either. Vince of Lake Balboa, CA June 1, 2009 I sold a part to a person in USA. the person sent the part back. Paypal has policy that any item valued over $250.00 must be sent "signature confirmation" My item was sent back without my knowing. The box was in terrible condition. All packing was missing. Parts were missing/ damaged. The item was in non-salable condition. I contacted Paypal about the situation and was told that I would need to file incident report with local police Department. I filed the report with officer Clark (badge # 39587). The report was then faxed directly from LAPD west valley division. Paypal then says "we did not receive the fax" I then go back to police department and officer Emenheiser (badge #38440) sent second report directly from the police station. Paypal claims they never received the faxes. Paypal then gives me a different fax number. I contacted officer Clark once again and gave him the different fax number but Paypal has never contacted me. Tom of St Charles, IL May 4, 2009 During my wife's battle with cancer in 2006, she wrote a journal to me in secret. After she died in December 2006, I responded to her writings and published them together as a book. About 5 weeks ago, book finally in hand, I created a website aimed at helping people write their own stories about loved ones they had lost as a way of helping them through their grief journeys. On the site, I made my book available as an example of what could be done. Purchases could be made using PayPal. As I was giving copies away to the people we had known together, I had no idea if others would find their way to the site and order the book or not, but I wanted it to be available to people in need. CRYSTAL of OLIVE BRANCH, MS May 4, 2009 In December of 2008, I sold some home use software I bought directly from Microsoft. The listing I had specifically stated that it was HOME USE ONLY, it said that on the pictures in the listing, and the customer that ultimately bought the software asked for pictures before he bought it. I sent those, which, again, had HOME USE ONLY clearly stamped in large, black ink on the front of the package. The pictures were taken with a high quality digital Nikon and were crisp and clear. Several weeks after buying the software, the customer emailed me and told me that he wanted commercial software and to please refund his money. As it was Christmas, the money had been used to buy for my three children. I explained to him that my listing was very clear and that, although I couldn't refund his money, he could certainly turn around and resell the software for profit or to recoup his loss. He became angry and demanded a refund, saying that I had no right to sell that kind of software on Ebay. I responded with Ebay's policies in the body of my email, empathized with the fact that he didn't pay attention to what it was he was buying and again explained to him that our transaction was legitimate and finalized. He filed a complaint with Paypal who then requested supporting docs from me. I sent them everything I had, including emails between the buyer and I where he clearly admitted his mistake and they also had the listing showing that I very clearly noted the software was HOME USE ONLY. I don't even know how commercial software works! After a couple of weeks, Paypal ruled in his favor, much to my surprise, and generated a refund back to him which left my Paypal account almost $800 in arrears. I immediately called and was informed by a Paypal rep that they (PP) never rule in favor of the seller, always the buyer, and not to worry about it because they couldn't access my bank account. I received my software back from the buyer, opened and therefore useless. Paypal consistently asked me to pay them the $800 they had given back to the buyer and I refused. A short time later, I started receiving calls from a collection company and after being harrassed for days (including calling my work), I filed a cease and desist with the company. I sent numerous emails to Paypal asking them to explain to me how my item was SIGNIFICANTLY NOT AS DESCRIBED or SNAD (per their website) and they have never responded to me with anything but, "We ruled against you, now pay us". In order for an item to be SNAD, one of the following has to apply: What is Significantly Not as Described (SNAD)? An item is Significantly Not as Described if it is materially different than what the seller described in the item listing. Here are some examples: You received a completely different item. Example: You purchased a book and received a DVD or an empty box. The condition of the item was misrepresented. Example: The listing said "new" and the item was used. The item was advertised as authentic but is not authentic. The item is missing major parts or features which were not disclosed in the listing. You purchased three items from a seller but only received two. The item was damaged during shipment. An item is not Significantly Not as Described if it is materially similar to the seller’s item listing description. Here are some examples: The defect in the item was correctly described by the seller. The item was properly described but you didn't want it after you received it. The item was properly described but did not meet your expectations. The item has minor scratches and was listed as used condition. What the customer did was listed perfectly under their definition of NOT SIGNIFICANTLY NOT AS DESCRIBED. My item was listed and described accurately but the buyer paid no attention since he buys in bulk and purchases hundreds of listings a day (he is a re-seller). When he realized his mistake and didn't want it, he fell into Paypal's own definition of NOT SNAD! However, Paypal refuses to work with me, advise me how they determined my listing to be SNAD, or give me details of the decision that they made. I am being kept in the dark, have collection processing pending against me (and my credit is flawless. It took me years to build my FICO score to where it is today!), not to mention the stress and anxiety this has caused. I was also told that I should have appealed their decision, but when I called Paypal after they made their initial decision, the rep told me that the decision was final and there was no appeals process! Jeremy of Manalapan, NJ April 23, 2009 I sold $350 worth of silver eagles to the above individual through Pay Pal. The items were sent with delivery confirmation. The above individual contacted Pay Pal stating he never received the items, and my account was subsequently deducted the $350. I was never contacted by the above individual regarding any problem. I contacted the post office and they stated the item was delivered as confirmed by their tracking code. I contacted the above individual and he stated through his e-mails through E-Bay, that he did indeed receive the items. I thought that this issue would be resolved. However, to my dismay, the above individual is not attempting to resolve the issue with Pay Pal, and Pay Pal states it is out of their hands. I would like to know why they have the right to deduct the money from my account, and not look into this issue any further. The e-mails that he sent to me through E-Bay confirm he did indeed receive the items. Eddie of Edgewater Park, NJ April 18, 2009 Eddie of Edgewater Park NJ (04/18/09) Michelle of Morgantown, WV April 16, 2009 Michelle of Morgantown WV (04/16/09) Hiep of Seattle, WA April 11, 2009 Hiep of Seattle WA (04/11/09) Debbie of Chicago, IL March 21, 2009 Debbie of Chicago IL (03/21/09) John of Cleburne, TX March 13, 2009 John of Cleburne TX (03/13/09) Kim of Huntingdon, TN February 18, 2009 Kim of Huntingdon TN (02/18/09) Irene of Dumfries, BC February 12, 2009 Irene of Dumfries BC (02/12/09) Mary of Tyler, TX February 6, 2009 Mary of Tyler TX (02/06/09) Alex of Des Moines, WA February 3, 2009 Alex of Des Moines WA (02/03/09) Adrian of Kelana Jaya, OTHER February 2, 2009 Adrian of Kelana Jaya OTHER (02/02/09) Wai of Lexington, KY January 29, 2009 Wai of Lexington KY (01/29/09) James of Woolwich Twp, NJ January 24, 2009 James of Woolwich Twp NJ (01/24/09) Delbert of Roanoke, VA January 23, 2009 Delbert of Roanoke VA (01/23/09) William of Southbury, CT January 22, 2009 William of Southbury CT (01/22/09) Jason of Van Nuys, CA December 21, 2008 Jason of Van Nuys CA (12/21/08) Scott of Ormond Beach, FL December 20, 2008 Scott of Ormond Beach FL (12/20/08) Richard of Fresno, CA December 4, 2008 Richard of Fresno CA (12/04/08) Danielle of Anderson, SC December 2, 2008 Danielle of Anderson SC (12/02/08) Jason of Coral Springs, FL November 24, 2008 Jason of Coral Springs FL (11/24/08) Dave of Sicklerville, NJ November 15, 2008 Dave of Sicklerville NJ (11/15/08) Roberto of Ansonia, CT November 10, 2008 Roberto of Ansonia CT (11/10/08) Jeremiah of Greenwich, CT October 24, 2008 Jeremiah of Greenwich CT (10/24/08) Debra of Fowlerville, MI October 17, 2008 I would like to know WHY when I use a virtual ONE TIME USE ONLY PAYPAL PLUG-IN number, WHY the company is allowed to use it again. I authorized transaction for $4.95 on 09.27.2008. I HAVE RECEIVED THE ORDER THIS IS NOT IN DISPUTE. I called this number Sunday 10.12.08 left a message, told them when to call me back as expected I did not receive a return call on Tues. or a message on Monday when I was at work! I DID NOT authorize transaction for $79.95. on 10.12.08. oddly enough no phone number for this company, but it is the same company. I haven't disputed it with my amazon.com transactions but it happens there but I AM making those, I DID NOT MAKE THIS ONE, I WANT IT STOPPED. I have called the number on the first transaction and left them a message. PAYPAL NEEDS TO MAKE THE PAYPAL PLUG-IN VIRTUAL DEBIT CARD TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE ONE TIME ONLY REALLY ONE TIME ONLY. This has happened before. This is paypals claim about the one time use card: ""Single-use cards. You generate a MasterCard debit card number for a single purchase. Once the purchase is complete, the card is closed and can't be used again by anyone. These cards can be used for up to two months, unless you close them" Copied directly from the paypal site. Obviously this is a problem. Paypal is my business account, I try to keep it separate from the household money. They allowed the removal of money from my account that hampers my mailing of items to customers, and my purchase of items to sell. They promise one time use and security but refuse to not only provide it, but refuse a timely resolution. I am out the $79.95 until they decide whether or not I really made the purchase I DID NOT, and maybe decide to refund my money. I feel both the company that did this and paypal are commiting fraud on the consumer. April of Lincoln, CA October 11, 2008 April of Lincoln CA (10/11/08) Patricia of Fair Haven, NJ October 7, 2008 Patricia of Fair Haven NJ (10/07/08) Cindy of Alvin, TX October 4, 2008 Cindy of Alvin TX (10/04/08) R.e. of Long Beach, CA October 1, 2008 R.e. of Long Beach CA (10/01/08) Sharon of Stanhope, NJ September 30, 2008 Sharon of Stanhope NJ (09/30/08) Larry of Holbrook, AZ September 24, 2008 Larry of Holbrook AZ (09/24/08) Alisa of Lake Charles, LA September 7, 2008 Alisa of Lake Charles LA (09/07/08) Christy of Corinth, TX August 28, 2008 Christy of Corinth TX (08/28/08) Christy of Corinth, TX August 27, 2008 Christy of Corinth TX (08/27/08) I called them several times trying to find out why is my money being held I was hung up on then another customer service rep I could barely understand stated that I had 2 charge backs from 2 customers over 1 month ago and that they have new policies that state when you have a charge back they will hold your money for 21 days or until a positive feedback is left or until you provide proof of delivery of merchandise. I was furious because they never warned me and I have to pay out of my own pocket to ship items because they are holding my money the customers paid. I went on ebay and paid for shipping through pay pal and sent them the confirmation numbers and tracking info. The merchandise has been delivered to my customers and PAY PAL still comes up with other reasons why they are going to hold my money. One customer service rep I spoke with flat out told me I have no clue why they are still holding your money. I have seller protection through pay pal so if someone does a charge back on my account it is covered under pay pal seller protection. Tom of Sacramento, CA August 22, 2008 Tom of Sacramento CA (08/22/08) Shalini of Aldie, VA August 22, 2008 Shalini of Aldie VA (08/22/08)
I sample checked on 8 items and all cant go wrong had it not been paypal scam. Their corporate veil needs to be lifted. I do want a lawyer to contact me Billie of Midway, TX August 21, 2008 Billie of Midway TX (08/21/08) Lacy of Wentzville, MO July 3, 2008 Lacy of Wentzville MO (07/03/08) Gilda of Winton, NC July 1, 2008 Gilda of Winton NC (07/01/08) Tana of Rancho Cordova, CA June 25, 2008 Tana of Rancho Cordova CA (06/25/08) Merial of Grand Prairie, TX June 18, 2008 Merial of Grand Prairie TX (06/18/08) Dena of San Diego, CA June 18, 2008 Dena of San Diego CA (06/18/08) Dina of Santa Ana, CA June 17, 2008 Dina of Santa Ana CA (06/17/08) Crystal of Sandston, VA June 9, 2008 Crystal of Sandston VA (06/09/08) Shawn of Mableton, GA May 28, 2008 Shawn of Mableton GA (05/28/08) Greg of Concord, NH March 15, 2008 Greg of Concord NH (03/15/08) Angela of Portage, MI March 2, 2008 Angela of Portage MI (03/02/08) Toy of San Bernardino, CA February 22, 2008 Toy of San Bernardino CA (02/22/08) Johnathan of Avondale, AZ February 6, 2008 Johnathan of Avondale AZ (02/06/08) Amy of Cocoa Beach, FL February 5, 2008 Amy of Cocoa Beach FL (02/05/08) Robert of Spartanburg, SC January 7, 2008 Robert of Spartanburg SC (01/07/08) I chose paypal because it supposedly protected the privacy of my client as well as being convenient. When i called paypal dispute resolution I got a cheeky response with corporate double speak and excuse making, tellimg me it is for security purposes. By the way, this was a simple $600 transaction for services with no goods or shipping involved. Paypal has just lost a FEE PAYING customer. And their attitude was, who cares. James of Louisburg, NC January 4, 2008 James of Louisburg NC (01/04/08) Bud of Briarcliff, TX December 30, 2007 Bud of Briarcliff TX (12/30/07) Bruno of Corona, NY May 6, 2007 Bruno of Corona NY (05/06/07) I sold an item on Ebay. The buyer paid me and Paypal put limitations in my account and hold the money for 180 days. I tried to lift the limitation providing everything they needed to lift the limitation but nothing worked. They said my account was a high risk and they had to keep my money there for 180 days. Zhen of Brooklyn, NY February 27, 2007 Zhen of Brooklyn NY (02/27/07) Edwin of Norwalk, CT December 21, 2006 Edwin of Norwalk CT (12/21/06) I was selling Playstation 3's and Nintendo Wii's online on Ebay, who by the way owns Paypal. Please keep in mind, I have a good feedback rating in Paypal after 5 years with them and I have a 100% rating for 6 or 7 years with EBAY with over 120 feedbacks. There is no reason to suspect whatsoever that I would suddenly start scamming people. On my third item I sold on Ebay I did a transfer of funds to my checking account. To my surprise, Paypal reversed my funds back to my Paypal account without prior notice or warning. Paypal restricted my account from transferring funds and even reversed my last transaction because the items I sold were “high risk“. They asked me to provide all sorts of information after 5 p.m. on a Friday including tracking numbers, and requested I fax a copy of my license. Once I did all that, they had my status in review. I called to find out what was going on and they again asked for the tracking number. This I found to be a ridiculous request because the tracking number they were requesting was in their very own transaction data they provide you when your checking the details of the transaction. After giving them the tracking number numerous times, they said they were going to hold my money for 180 days! I call them and they said once they can verify that the customer has received the items, they will release the money. On day 6, the FedEx tracking showed the customer received the item. The customer even e-mailed me to tell me they got the item. Now Paypal's excuse was that the item was not signed for, even though the customer signature was on file. The customer service person said they would call the customer to verify they received the item. Apparently Fed Ex tracking is not good enough for them. They have ruined my Christmas as they have now locked up $1300.00 of my Christmas money in their account. They are delaying my bill payments and are causing interest charges on my part all while they float my money. I have spent countless hours trying to get them to release MY money. John of Santee, CA November 29, 2006 John of Santee CA (11/29/06) We have a vehicle repair facility and use Paypal to process our credit card payments. Paypal froze our account and has kept what money we have while a "dispute is being reviewed". Paypal says this is due to a customer filing a fraudulent claim with the credit card company AND giving a fraudulent check in order to avoid a lien against the vehicle. We have ALL the documentation and $6000.00 is involved. The customer never requested his money back from us. In addition, the customer is driving around in his perfectly fixed vehicle. When we contacted Paypal, we were assured that Paypal would not attempt to take ANY money from our bank account until this was resolved AND it was proven we were at fault, which would take a minimum of 30 days. We are not able to delete our personal or business checking account information in Paypal in order to prevent them from taking our money "while our charge-backs are in review". We haven’t been able to accept credit cards since 11/17 and have fees on top of the balance. We need help. We’re a small family owned business and this could literally ruin us. It’s bad enough that we have had to file a small claims suit against our customer for the bad check, but we also have to figure out how to get our $6000.00 from Paypal. Paypal has even blocked us from getting our own money that was in the account prior to this problem! Joann of Rancho Cucamonga, CA August 30, 2006 Joann of Rancho Cucamonga CA (08/30/06) Barry of Savannah GA (2/13/04):
Further they will only tell you they will SEND YOU A CHECK in a "few" days but will bot quantify a "few" nor will they tell you the bank name that the check will be issued from. The funds are frozen and they ALONE are reaping the interest off of the money. I caution you about complaining to the BBB of Silicon Valley (bbbsilicon.org). Despite that Paypal has over 2,800 consumer complaints, the BBB of Silicon VAlley keeps them in GOOD STANDING. Fred of Orlando (1/26/04):
I called them on the phone after looking at my account (which had no transaction for that date and challenged them on it. They told me they froze the account because a person I was selling to had problems with some of their buyers so they decided to hold it aganst me because I sold them merchandise. I cannot send the merchandise to another buyer because his money is on hold. The money the person who is having the problems is long gone. Lee of Lee NH (1/22/04):
I sent all pertinent information to PayPal, and asked many, many questions - to which I received no response except irrelevant form letters. I then received an e-mail from PayPal saying that they had my lens in their posession and they required a check from me for the amount of the refund due ($540.00). I have no assurances that the lens is in the shape it was in when I sent it to the buyer - over a year ago. I have no information as to how and why someone decided that the item was "not as described". I have no information about his credit card issuer's "chargeback" policy - which is usually about 30 days for most banks. A year and a half seems excessive. I must tell you that the lens truly had been used by 2 professional photographers and they thought it to be in pristine condition. And I included many photographs of it when selling it. I suspect that the buyer did not pay attention to the descrption, and bought a "rangefinder" lens for a non rangefinder camera. Damage Resulting: PayPal has charged me 544.00 - and has requested that I send them a check for that amount, at which time they will return the lens to me. The lens could be in pieces as far as I know. Michael of Lawton OK (1/3/04):
A day after I left positive feedback I recieved a notification from paypal that A funds reversal has been initiated due to use of fradulant funds. I sent PayPal a copy of all emails, on the transaction, and they refused to give me any information, not even an IP address of the person that bought the computer off me, so I had no legal action that I could take on the person that took my money and my computer. So far I have refused to pay PayPal because they have provided me with no proof that this transaction was not legitimate. I notified Ebay on the problem, and they did nothing to resolve the issue, I received no refund on the auction fees, and I even lost my registration because they claimed that I was the fraud. Two months has passed and I just received an Email from a person in Pennsylvania, who has just had the same exact thing happen to him with the same ebay username! Now I notified ebay and paypal of the issue, and they did nothing to the person responsible, they didn't even suspend their account! And now someone else has fallen victum to the same person. I feel this is gross negligence on the part of Ebay and Paypal to alow this to happen twice by the same person with a 2 month time difference. Toni of Frankfort IN (12/23/03):
Now my credit report has a collections on it. To this day they have not credited my account but say the buyer has sent the money, so I do not know what else to do. Brian of Urbanna VA (11/26/03):
As of last week, well before their deadline, my website was 100% compliant with their policy and all of the stringent regulations they have set forth, per their email request. However, on November 26, 2003, I was shocked to learn that my account had been limited without any justification or warning, despite the fact that I had complied with their previous request. In addition, the funds from transactions prior to the date of their notice that my account was in violation were also locked. There was no fraud, or even the question of any activities such as that, or any other tangible reason for that account to be limited, other than non-compliance, which had already been taken care of days before the account was �limited�. Although my account is still �technically� open (their legal loophole I suppose). I am not able to withdraw, or access any of the funds from my paypal account, nor am I able to spend those funds anywhere else. As of writing this, I still have $118.15 in my account, which paypal has adamantly refused to refund to me, giving no rhyme or reason. I understand that this is a relatively small of money, however that does not make it right. Regardless of whether or not my account, or any other account adheres to their policies, they have no legal claim to hold those funds without explanation or cause. Delina of Moshannon PA (7/7/03):
She said the item wasn't as described and wanted her money back. It was as described and I had the original sales receipt for the mink coat. Clearly written on the receipt is MINK and the original selling price. I also had a signature confirmation receipt from the post office. It was over 30 days since she paid me for it through paypal. She did not purchase the buyers protection insurance either. The previous money transaction on June 30, 2003 to my bank was cancelled and reversed back to paypal. My paypal account now is -810.00 as they reversed the payment for the mink, back to the buyer, just because she said wanted her money back because the item wasn't as described. Now all the payments made to me by buyers of my auctions goes toward the -810.00. I don't receive any of the money that is being sent to me from the buyers, but I still have an obligation to my buyers to send the items they paid for. I had 5 days to contact paypal with the tracking numbers, which I did so, but nowhere was there a place to add any other information. The email I received from paypal said that they would make a decision within 5 days. I called paypal and asked about the sellers protection policy and about it being over 30 days. I also informed them that the buyer did not purchase buyers protection. I was informed that since the buyer paid by credit card, that none of the above applied. The purchase showed that her payment was instant. Nowhere did it state that she paid by credit card. The seller is not protected when paid with a credit card, I was told by paypal. Then why doesn't paypal state that in their agreement up front? Paypal did tell me to fax them a copy of the original sales receipt that I had kept that was on the mink and a copy of the signature confirmation. I did that on July 1, 2003. I have still not heard anything from paypal and my account is still negative. I also informed paypal that I did refund to the buyer 13.00 in overpayment of shipping costs through paypal. Still no response on that either. I am a very honest seller and try very hard to keep my good reputation. Paypal makes people believe that they can trust them. I want other sellers to know just what is in store for them if they use paypal. "imarkit" of Woodland Hills CA (6/6/03):
If the customer put non delivery, we can defend ourselves. The problem here is the money is tied up for a couple of weeks! Even though we get the money back within a month or so, the customer then does a chargeback with their credit card company. HERES THE BAD PART. THEY ALWAYS GET THEIR MONEY BACK! Paypal tries to send an email that says anything over $250 you must have a signature stating that the customer received the package for us to support you. If you look at my paypal disputes list, you will see some examples of me just getting ripped off! The worse part is paypal froze my account due to people wanting chargebacks because i couldnt get to the money that was frozen. just yesterday i sold some items and the money was negated from my account instead of being added to the account. Paypal needs to be overseen as they are the largest online bank for auctions and growing bigger everyday.Susan of Bakersfield CA (4/7/03):
Amy of North Vernon IN (1/30/03):
It has already hurt my reputation with my buyers due to the fact that I felt obligated to inform them that their shipment may be delayed and why. If the buyer backs out I am out the sale and the fees, plus my reputation will be worthless and the equipment, purchased specifically to resell will be nothing more than a storage problem. Joe of Seattle writes (3/7/02):
Three business days later they told me I need to change my password and "secret questions" before I can withdraw money or unfreez the account. I did that. 10 min later they send me another letter saying the only way to release the hold on my account is to verify the account (which they had already checked) and send the documentation (they had already sent me an e-mail verifying that they had received the fax and reviewing it) This may not seem like a major problem but I need that money to ship the items paid for. Also the amount in the account has tripled from auction's ending. My total time locked out is estimated at 3 weeks minimum. They have caused me considerable headache and financial grief without reason other than they are having unrelated security problems. Isaac of Walnut CA (3/7/02):
Out of the blue, on February 27, 2002, at 8:00 A.M., I received an email from Paypal saying that I have added another Paypal email address and that this change was my primary PayPal email address on my account with them. Nobody else knows my password on that account and no one at home uses hotmail.com, so I could only think that this has to be an inside job from Paypal who did this. I started to email Paypal to inform them about it, but I could not access to this email address anymore. It has been very hard to contact them. All the emails that I sent them got the same response, to log into my account, which I could not of course because my account name was not valid anymore. Distressed and frustrated not able to get any resolution to this mess, I emailed them about this fraudulent act and finally on March 1, 2002, I was able to get hold of one of their employee named Doug, and told him the problem. I have suffered harrassment from angry clients who thought that I just decided not to accept Paypal as mode of payment when in fact it was in my site that I accept payments through Paypal. Although I emailed my clients on the temporary suspension of Paypal until the problem is solved, some customers did not even read my note; they simply made payments to Paypal. I advised them to make a reversal of their payments to my old email address and some are having problems doing that and they are as frustrated and annoyed with the poor Paypal customer service. They are asking for help on how to get through to PayPal other than by email; and there is no phone number to reach them. Kelly of Oxnard, CA (2/15/02):
Valerie of Jackson, TN (10/20/01):
Pay Direct Pal Depot program has many products for the one time 20 dollars one pays to join. The list is so long of what you receive that it would be silly for me to place it all here. However shortly after Pay Direct Pal Depot entered the net, Pay Pal froze their account. I was making 200 dollars a day almost from that great program and many others were making money and utilizing their good products. Now I have lost my good name and reputation due to the fact Pay Pal shut them down for no true legitimate reason. How? Because I informed my subscribers of what a good program it was and they paid their good money of 20 dollars of which some never were able to utilize the products because pay pal shut them down so quickly. I feel paypal does these things in order to receive interest off companies and peoples monies. I am beginning to believe that Pay Pal is ONE BIG SCAM itself. Although I have never had my little account froze my them, I have lost more than once due to them shutting down legitimate business on the net. Maya of Los Angeles (8/9/01):
Unfortunately, I have discovered that PayPal is not what it advertised itself to be. I recently sent a bag (on or about July 20, 2001) to the winning bidder of one of my ebay auctions in the amount of $114.00. I received payment notification from PayPal, indicating the amount paid and the name and address of the person to whom I was to ship the bag to. Shortly after receiving payment, I sent the bag with insurance at the United States Post Office. After a couple of weeks, I received an email from PayPal notifying me that I may have received the funds "fraudulently" and that they were currently investigating. I was also notified that as a result of the investigation, the $114 less PayPal's fees would be put on hold. In other words, they took that amount out of my account for no legitimate reason and without proper information. I emailed PayPal back and provided them with all the information I had including, but not limited to, the name and address where I sent the bag, pictures of the bag I had taken, and the date when I shipped the bag and the "tracking number" on my post office receipt. When I never received a response from PayPal, I called their 888 number and was told no information could be given to me because it was currently under investigation. I also inquired as to why PayPal was so quick to withdraw the money from my account and expressed my concerns that this was quite unfair for there was no proof anything was "fraudulent" and that I indeed had proof that I had sent the bag to the address given to me by Paypal. In addition to wrongfully taking my money out of my account, they stopped paying me interest on the amount withheld despite the fact there was no clear and convincing evidence anything wrong had happened. I then received ONE email from PayPal indicating that the tracking number I had provided was NOT valid and requested that I contact the post office. I immediately contacted the post office and was told that the Post Office cannot electronically track packages and that instead, the post office requires the recipient of the package to sign for the package and that signed card would then be sent to me. I then conveyed this information to PayPal that the post office did not in fact have an electronic tracking system. However, rather than respond, I recently received an email from PayPal indicating that they have "determined tha the funds I received were given to me fraudulently" and the payment of $114.00 less PayPal's fee was permanently withdrawn from my account. As a last resort measure, I contacted the buyer to find out her side of the story. I received an email back from her today and she indicated that she had been out of the country and when she returned, she found out about the mess PayPal had created. She told me that she DID receive the bag and there was NO FRAUD that she complained about. Rather, she said PayPal told her that she used the wrong email address to make payment and as a result, PayPal erroneously concluded that the transaction was FRAUDULENT. Based on the information PayPal provided me, it insinuated that the buyer had made a complaint, but I have since found this is NOT the case and instead, PayPal acted on its own to take money out of my account and prevent the buyer who has received my item, from paying me the money I am owed. Ken of Southport, Queensland, Australia (4/27/01):
Ebay of course does not concern itself with these problems, but I feel they can hardly claim to be a global service when they provide so little information about how people can pay for goods sold. In an effort to overcome this, and acting on pressure from some buyers in USA, I joined PayPal late last year (2000). Some transactions went smoothly until late March this year. I had a successful auction of some items, the largest being a rare typewriter valued at AUD$2,500. A collector in New York was the highest bidder and because I had noted in my auction details that payment could be made by PayPal, he of course wanted to use this service. He, along with three other buyers, lodged funds with PayPal. Despite my best efforts, I could not retrieve the funds from Paypal, and it was obvious to me that the methods of transferring funds had changed substantially since the last time I successfully used Paypal to transfer funds to an Australian credit card account. Their website instructions kept asking me to lodge details of my US bank account, which of course I don't have, and probably couldn't have even if I wanted one, being an Australian citizen living half way around the world. After countless efforts by email to get some explanation from Paypal, an executive responded by saying that since early March, PayPal's ability to send funds to Australia had been taken away from them by credit card authorities. Paypal took no steps to inform their customers of this, and had I not become rather agitated in my emails, would still to this day be sitting on funds it had withdrawn from buyers' bank accounts or credit cards, with no way of me claiming the money. It was frustrating for both buyer and seller to have funds sitting in a PayPal account, with the buyers wanting their goods, and the seller (me) being unable to transfer the money. Stalemate, with PayPal offering no advice other than "tough". As soon as I became aware of this, I denied all payments and emailed urgently to all buyers advising them to contact PayPal and get their funds returned. I believe this has now occured, but not without a lot of anxious moments for the buyers. Now, as a result of the continuing frustrations of being unable to send funds to Australia without huge imposts through banks, my main buyer of the AUD$2,500 item has renegged on the deal. I have reported this to Ebay who have already taken their fees from my credit card for the so-called successful sale. I am now AUD$2,500 out of pocket due to the lack of performance of PayPal and due to their lack of advice to customers about their inability to move funds to many countries. None of this is made clear on their website, which is a minefield of poor information and assumptions that everyone dealing with Ebay and PayPal are Americans. It is obvious they do not understand global trading. As a businessman myself, I have never had such a frustrating and time consuming experience as trying to get rational information from both Ebay and Paypal. Their customer service is non-existent, with all emails being answered by either a computer with bogus Christian names. Eventually, after constant emails to every possible contact point, a human being responds, but even then, it is full of condescending platitudes and no answers. The events of the past month have severely dampened my enthusiasm for online auctions and proved conclusively to me that unless one has credit card facilities (and even then many people will not want to provide their credit card details to a private individual - why should they), international players like Ebay should place prominent warnings on their sites that explain the difficulties of sending funds from one country to another. Lincoln of Rochester NY (1/31/01):
Transaction completed, at least I thought. Not so. In January '01, Paypal sent me an email message saying that "The buyer of xxxx transaction used fradulent card to pay for $450 of goods, please send us the info and we'll determine whether we'll backcharge you or not." So I called FedEx and got the tracking number (which I had thrown away a long time ago) and gave all the info I had about the transaction to Paypal. The next day, Paypal told me they would reverse $450 from my account. I was outraged because it's Paypal's job to make sure everyone is credible. Now they failed to do their job and it took them 3 MONTHS(!) to figure it out and they are blaming it on me. So by their definition, I would have lost my guitar processor, and another $450 for something I already shipped? Neil of San Rafael CA (1/22/01):
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