I am writing about the most bizarre experience I have ever had in a business, your business. I went to pick-up my Jetta TDI from the service at Luther, VW. I spoke to a service person named Brett. I told him why I was there, and then asked if my car had been washed. Usually, repair shops are washing the car, and the last time I had service at VW, they didn't wash mine, so I asked. Brett's response was a flippant, "I don't know, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't." It was obvious by his tone he had a bad attitude, and didn't care. So, I ignored him and just wanted to get out. He told me to go to another desk to pay and I said, "I hope they washed it. I have received poor service here in the past, and at this price, I don't appreciate it." I then walked away to go to the other desk. At this time Brett followed me to the other desk and said, "You can't just say something like that, and walk away. I don't even know your name." His approach and tone was intimidating. I told him my name, and bumped him on the side of the arm and said, "Don't worry about it." I was hoping his of his intimidating nature would go away. He responded, "Don't touch me." I said, "I just bumped you on the arm." He continued to talk back (e.g. I work 50 hours a week, and I don't like someone...), and I told him I didn't like his attitude, or the way he was talking to me, (his actions continued to make me a little nervous), but he continued to rant. I said I would like to speak to your manager and he said, "Good, I think you should talk to the manager, my name is Brett."
I could not believe my ears. Here is a worker who followed me over to a desk, stepped so close to me that he was not even an arms length away (I would call this kind of action aggressive), got in my face and told me how bad my attitude was, and told me, " fine go ahead talk to the manager". I was not swearing, or yelling (as my son can attest), but now I was really upset (FYI, I don't name call, swear, and my voice was no louder than Brett's). I have never experienced an employee with such a bad attitude, or had one get in my space and rant on telling me what I should and should not do. Not only that, this should been a simple complaint with a short apology. Besides, I felt I was in the right with my complaint. A shop that charges what VW does should be providing the highest level of service, and washing the car is now considered the norm. I was paying $250.00 for a bracket and wires to be replaced. I realized there was no reason to continue to explain myself. He was more worried going on about himself, and his perceptions of the situation than any customer complaint. Besides, he was intimidating me.
Well I found out why he wanted to seek out the manager. He must have known that the manager would support him, and his behavior. So, he continued his talking over me saying aggressively, "I'll get the manager, no, no, you follow me. I'll take you to his office." This manager of the service department was so passive aggressive. I got nowhere with him. I tried to explain my problem - both Brett and the service manager continually cut me off. He ultimately told me, "he had known Brett for five years..." where I replied, "So are you saying I am making this up?" It reminded me of the person that says I've known him for five years, and have never known him to beat his wife. This interaction indicated to me he didn't care, simply because of his statement (I've known him for five years); he wouldn't let me explain my experience, and the fact that he was walking me to his office door. This is before I even had said what I wanted to say. While I was being walked out, I said to the service manager, "I am 50 years old. How many VW's do you think I would have bought in my lifetime?" and told him, "I expect an apology from him (Brett)." I went to pay and get my car.
At this point, I was in disbelief. While I was at the desk to pay, Brett came up, leaned over the desk into my face and said, "I'm sorry you think you've had bad service." I looked at him like he was nuts and said, "that's not an apology." The service manager was behind Brett and I looked around Brett and said, "Do you think that was an apology?" The manager said, "I couldn't hear him." I said, "I expected an apology for how he treated me." Wherein the manager replied, "Well he said sorry." So, I paid and went over to my son to wait for someone to bring me my car. This experience was made worse by the fact that they were treating me that way in front of other customers. I walked over to where my son (Erick) was sitting, and asked if he saw what happened. He replied, yes he saw some of the interaction, and he could not believe it either. He is 22 years old and wanted to talk to the manager himself, because it upset him also.
I said go ahead and walked him to his office. In the office were the service manager, Brett, and a man in a suit. I think that may have been the general manager of Luther VW (Steve Hendricks), but I'm not sure. When Erick tried to talk - they also talked over him. Brett got up and walked toward Erick (again an aggressive action) and argued. Erick said later he could not believe he would get up and walk toward him like that. He tried to tell them what he saw, and said to the manager that he could not believe he was hearing him defend this employee to me. That he (Brett) was rude and had a bad attitude. He told the service manager that to say to me, "well I've known Brett for five years" was paramount to calling me (Martha) a liar, and he was shocked that he would defend his actions against the customer. At some point (again before we even were able finish talking, not that he cared or was listening) the service manager walked toward us so we would back out of his office while he repeated, "Well, were just going to call this a day, and we are done here." Also, when the service manager took my arm to keep we walking, I did not yell, "don't you touch me," as Brett did.
I have included Erick's statement below:
"After emptying the car, I came in to see my mother speaking to employee who quite angrily stated, "Yes, let's go get the manager." In my experience this was not the tone of someone resolving a situation, but escalating it. I ate my food and waited for my mother, who came back and told me about the car wash, and next how the manager had backed his employee. I was so shocked by this response that I wanted to speak to the manager myself. Simply because who has ever heard of a manager blatantly backing an employee to a customer? It's very bad business. I went to speak to him. Rather than getting to speak to the manager, the employee confronted me. He demonstrated what he had done to my mother, and proceeded to get in my face. He never backed up after this. I tried to get an explanation, and at the same time explain getting mad at customers isn't okay.
When I told the employee I had seen his demeanor, he tried telling me how mad my mom was. When I explained how he looked when going for the manager, he admitted, "yeah" he was mad. He proceeded to only get madder; I felt nothing was explained. The conversation was going nowhere, and I believe it's the business' responsibility to make sure an argument like that comes to some understanding. Finally, I was able to confront the manager on what brought me there, backing his employee unconditionally. I tried telling him that it's bad business, and wanted to ask him why. This is when the manager decided that the conversation was done, saying, "Well, I think we have to agree to disagree, let's call it a day." These are the snidest individuals I have ever encountered in the service industry. I believe they should both be terminated, as they are a liability to your company. Finally, I would like to add that I probably would have called the police; if I had known this man initially chased my mother down to confront her. I'm a pacifist and don't hit people, someone who is not pacifist could have reacted quite differently to such aggressive displays. I left the experience feeling completely berated, when all I had done was go to ask questions, and stick up for my mother. No questions were heard or answered."
I will tell you I am sending this email to cooperate because I believe that may have been the general manager (Steve **) in the service managers office when Erick went back to talk to him. This tells me that supporting the employees over customers and customer service are status quo at VW. I will also tell you as a woman that I was intimidated. The behavior of these men is the reason I never dealt with these problems or service situations when my husband was alive. I found I was often treated badly, and he would just end-up going back to correct the situation. Unfortunately, he died in a plane crash; leaving me and my sons to deal with these unnerving issues. It is sad to see things have changed so little.
I believe that this is the only VW dealership in the twin cities, so I now do not want to go back there. I was looking for another car for my son, but obviously I will not bother with Luther's website anymore, and I sure won't go to the dealer. The question is how I get my car serviced, when I have issues that need to be dealt with by VW (e.g. getting new keys). Due to the aggressive and intimidating nature of this incident, I am contemplating further action. I hope to hear back from your company soon.