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My husband had his teeth pulled and got dentures in 2016. Everything he would need to have done was written up in a contract and agreed upon. We used Care Credit to pay part of it and made monthly payments to Western Dental until it was paid off. We were sent a statement about 5 months later, adjusting my dollar amount to a lesser number with no notification why, saying the contract had been paid in full. In the contract we were charged for the hard reline which needed to be done after, I think a year/year and a half. My husband went in recently and before anything was done he double checked with the staff and they looked up his account and said it was already paid for in the contract.
Skip ahead 2 1/2 months and we get a call from their collections department saying we needed to pay $955 immediately and were late. Um WHAT!?! Not only did they charge my husband for work he had already paid for according to the contract they didn't even tell him and it went straight to collections. We then received a bill in the mail. So husband goes to office and talks to office manager Stephanie and she tells him that no he doesn't owe anything. After weeks of her saying she would take care of it, many phone calls to corporate and collections they have decided that we owe them for the hard reline. So they have lost the business of 5 family members because they decided to be sketchy and double charge us. AND the dentures suck anyway!
Santa Maria office seems to be the same as most of ALL their other offices up & down the STATE of CA. I can't believe contract with Medicaid. SCAM. You go in there, they damn know you are low income and pull crap about removing teeth, implants, etc. Was there 3 different times w/ 3 different experiences with their doctors. The right hand has not a 'clue' what the left is doing. The last visit when I was to get work done, I wanted to READ their stupid contract like it was lice, doc got mad since I mentioned 'trust' with staff and walked out. WTF! I have the Right to Read before signing my life to you idiots! Make it know W.D. (more than likely) on a monthly payout by Medicaid (yes-- can do this) even if NOT 1 person w/ medicaid see a doc they will get cut a check. They make their $$$$ by SCAM you to believe you need more work than necessary!!! Such CRAP. THIS IS RUN WITH the GOVERNMENT! Please!!!
Don't even get me started on $$$ -- $50 is $50 and got my large amount back by calling the MAIN office daily, oooppss --- think you forgot that $50 on some denture appliance when I didn't get work done. I have complained to their customer service dept., management in O.C. and any where I can on-line. READ, I am telling you, do NOT rush, READ --- and have explanation about EVERYTHING from beginning to end. They will curve ball you! Believe that.
Thank goodness I've only gone twice before realizing that this was no more than an insurance mill. My first visit consisted of getting x-rays, and making a financial plan to get bottom implants, which sounded great, but I was there to remove a broken tooth. I wanted the complete bottom implants eventually, because I was eventually going to lose the teeth due to using ** with exposed bone due to an accident. (Side warning: do not use ** without knowing the risks.) After they'd worked out a plan for the implant cost, ($5,570), and had applied for a Care credit card for me without asking me first, they told me to make my next appointment. I told them to back the bus up, and pull the remnant of the broken tooth, which they refused to do, even though I had told them WHY I was coming in when I'd made the appointment.
Instead, they offered me a prescription for pain meds, which I turned down. So... before my next appointment, I called to clarify what we were going to do during the appointment, which was to pull the remnant of the broken tooth. During the call, we discussed the implants, and I made it clear that I wouldn't want to do that until the following spring. Somehow, the cost of the procedure came up, and the receptionist mentioned a price of OVER $7,500. I said "WHAT? That was not the price we'd agreed upon!" And she said that I could discuss it with the dentist when I came in. I decided to go in, just to get the tooth pulled, and figured that I would work out the details after I did that. So I went in, waiting an hour and a half before being led to the dental chair, where I finished 5 chapters of the Grisham book I was reading before the dentist finally came in.
He began talking about the implant surgery, I told him that on this day I was simply getting my tooth pulled, at which time he told me that I would have to work that out with the managing dentist. I asked to speak to him and was informed that he would not be in that week, and that I needed to make another appointment. I told him I wouldn't be coming back, that they had wasted enough of my time. I know that most people who have bad experiences with Western Dental don't leave a review, and that is how they are able to continue doing this to people. For me, I was just researching implant costs, and came across this site, and realizing that, I decided to leave my own review.
Reading through some of these, I now realize that I need to find out exactly what they have charged my insurance, because until reading this, I just assumed it was office visits. Also that before getting expensive treatment, I really need to read the reviews of considerate people who are trying to warn their fellow humans. Because, again, for every review left, there are probably thousands of bad experiences. Good luck, my fellow humans.
After being in pain for 3 days, I called Western Dental and was able to make an appointment for the same day. The phone rep gave me the site online where I was to go and pre-register and print out forms. I was advised that a consultation and examination and x-rays were free and also advised that I could use my CareCredit card to pay for my services. I get to the office and had to fill out forms because this office didn't have online access! In addition they tried to sell me their in-house dental insurance which requires a yearly lump sum upfront and then gives you reduced charges for dental services.
I didn't want another bill and requested that they bill my card for all services and then I would pay my card company back. The receptionist then advised that all services would be triple if I didn't sign up for their plan! Also they would triple the consultation, examination, and x-ray charges and triple the charge for whatever work was done to my aching tooth! Does this sound like a company that cares about people? Sounds like they're chasing the almighty buck! I'm not in pain to the point where I will allow them to scam me with their in house insurance policy. And how in the world can they triple the cost of items that they said were free? Needless to say, I won't be crossing their threshold again! ** and ** here I come!
A year ago they said they were going to crown one of my tooths so they numbed my mouth and left. Never did anything for about an hour. They came back and said, "You can called them again." They said they don't take my type of Medicare medical. Till this day my tooth still has no crown.
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June 9, 2018 at 12:45pm I called the Western Dental office located at 44407 Challenger Way in Lancaster Ca. The rudest, rudest lady took my call regarding an upcoming appointment for a front tooth crown that was supposed to be done more than a month ago. I have been into the office 4 times (all with appointments) for this crown. Every time I go in I wait between 30 minutes - 2 hours before they tell me there's a problem getting my insurance (Medi-Cal) to cover the crown. I was told by Western Dental it was approved the day they did the top front tooth root canal. (This on tooth #8.) After they did the root canal they said I would have an appointment to come back for the crown prep/crown. They made me appointment in two more weeks.
When I returned for my scheduled appointment the Dentist Dr. ** told me my insurance decided they were not going to cover a crown because the tooth was not in bad enough shape, so a crown isn't necessary. THEN IF IT'S NOT IN BAD SHAPE WHY WAS IT NECESSARY TO HAVE A ROOT CANAL?? Why couldn't they just do a filling? I had no problems with the tooth before. No pain. Anyway, I called today to check status of approval for crown they keep having me return for. To avoid going in a fifth time for nothing. It was of course still not approved. So I told the rude, rude lady over the phone I was going to file appeal with Medi-Cal. She said "so do you want me to schedule you another appointment to come in or not". When I tried explaining to her that I needed to appeal Medi-Cal she kept talking over me repeatedly asking "do you want me to make the appointment or not"?
Finally I asked her if she would just listen to me for a minute so I could explain something, she responded with "so you don't need me to make you an appointment right"? What I was trying to ask her is about my maximum yearly limit on my insurance because I went in over a month ago (one of those appointments that were basically just to be told they still didn't have approval). They gave me a paper listing procedures and the cost/amount they were billing Medi-Cal for. On this paper is xrays- THEY ABSOLUTELY DID NOT DO ANY KIND OF XRAY OR ANYTHING ON THIS DAY! But they charged for it. Also they had a charge for an exam of some kind-there positively no exam of any kind done on this day either! But they did charge my insurance for that also. I'm only concerned because what if that's part of the reason my crown is now denied? Maybe Western Dental has charged up maximum benefits allowed for this year.
Four years ago I lost the second tooth from the front tooth. Since losing my health and dental benefits due to permanent disability. I was brought up to comply and respect persons of position of medical personal, teachers, men and woman representing so not questioning them telling me it was necessary to remove 22 the remainder of my teeth. I did not think to ask why. I thought they knew what was medically needed. Come to find out that's what they suggest on all medical and Medicare patients. My daughter had at age 28 had a bad back tooth. They told her it was necessary to pull all of them. Since then she has been able to get benefits provided by her job. Her new dentist gave her a root canal big difference.
I have in the past 4 years been told many of the same stories. Doing unnecessary procedures to bill the government at the cost of $50,000.00. Well that's what one of the bills I seen was. They don't even attempt to match your dentures to fit. They don't tell you your jaw will shrink which the dentures will no longer be able to seal to. So ones on top that look hideous and not able to wear the bottom ones for $50,000.00. All I needed was a couple thousand dollars which I would have eventually gotten. Now it's going to take $56,000.00 to get implants.
They have been deceiving the people who receive government assistance for years milking the system. I use to be very outgoing. A people person. Now I rarely go anywhere. They've made me miss out on a very good life. I've become depressed enough to seek out mental health help just to survive. I feel like I'm grieving every day. They need to be stopped and be held accountable for all the damage they've caused the many people they have scammed.
I received two different sets of dentures and neither one fit. They are not straight or even. When asked what I thought, was told, "No, they look fine." Very painful on lower set, but was told that they match up great. Not only do they not match up, but they don't even fit. Female doctor seemed very irritated that I was telling her they hurt and don't fit. She just stated to try them for a couple days, but I can't do it, they really hurt bad.
They would not do any work on teeth unless I had the deep root cleaning. Told me that’s why I was having pain. I said, “No. It’s because of the big hole in my tooth.” I could have a root canal if I had the cleaning. If not I could have it pulled... That was the last time I was in there. Oh and the dentist didn’t even see me. She sent someone else to tell me I was having pain because of my gums not the big hole in my tooth. If you can go to a different Dentist.
Brought my daughter there to have braces put on. They charged the crap out of me but I did it and the braces keep braking and their wires hanging out that have been cutting her mouth till she bleeds and they keep putting it off to fix it and it’s been two months with the braces all messed up. Please don’t trust them. They screw people bad and my older son had braces put in. Same problems so we refuse to pay till they fixed it and they told us they are gonna leave them on there till we pay the full amount. We are victims to Western Dental's problems. Don’t be another victim of them please!! I warn you. I don’t want to see these kids and adults get screwed by people who don’t care about you but just your money.
I have been more than patient with Western Dental in getting my Care Credit charges taken off my account, of which now is $4,027.00, up $27.00. I have a copy of the CareCredit Sales draft dated March 17, 2018 (11.25 am) that was issued to me. In addition to this, I have not received my $687.00 charge to my B of A debit card on March 17, 2018 (order ID **). I called and spoke with one of your representative on 3 occasions, and each time the information was verified, and I was told on all 3 coactions the billing person was not in, but would get back with me later that day, I think this is standard practice for your company, and of course they have not get back with me.
My last attempt to resolve this problem was March 30, 2018. I was told again that the manager was not in and if I did not hear from them by 10:30 that day, to call back again, which did and was placed on hold for some 3-4 minutes and the phone went dead, that I contacted Attorney General’s office. I contacted the State of California Department of Justice, Attorney General office on March 2, 2018 of which, they just got back to me and is in the process of contacting Western Dental. I highly recommend, anyone having problems with Western Dental that they contact the Attorney General Office here in California. The contact information is: https://oag.ca.gov/ and file a complaint. I personally think, a class action lawsuit is appropriate.
My wife made an appointment for my two daughters and herself to get their teeth cleaned. A week before our appointment, my youngest daughter had a dental emergency. My wife called to make an appointment and corporate transferred us to the National City branch. And the receptionist gave us a Saturday appointment. I brought my daughter to the appointment and they told me that there was no appointment made. Now, I told the receptionist that the I was transferred by corporate. She then told me that they are booked up and would talk to a dentist to see if my daughter could be seen as a walk-in.
My daughter was in a lot of pain, so I called my wife and she and myself were very upset. I called their corporate number while I was there and they were upset and called the office where I was at. They said that they would try to get my daughter seen to at least to give her some pain killers or something to help her with the pain. The receptionist said that my wife was being aggressive, and she wasn't, but my wife was basically just trying to get my daughter the help that she needed. The receptionist called the police on my wife and when they arrived, they told her they are refusing her service and had her escorted out of the dentist office.
Well my plan of the day was to get my daughter some help, that's why I made the appointment. It just sucks that Western Dental can just make you feel like a number and let my daughter leave there in pain. I did end up taking to urgent care at Kaiser and they prescribed her some **. And I did manage to get her seen by a different dentist. I have been going to Western Dental for many years and will not return.
I have had an appointment made at the 2626 Mission St., San Francisco, CA 94110 office for May 12th 2018 at 10 am, somebody else not me changed my appointment to May 16th 2018 at 12 pm. After I doublechecked and was informed of new date by the customer service I went in on May 16th 2018 at 12 pm for teeth extractions. I awaited more than two hours for X-rays to be taken and for the consultation. Dr. ** was kind but not confident to do the extractions so I had to wait another one hour for Dr. **.
An estimate was brought to me for extraction of four teeth for 460$ to be billed to Medical under chart no. **. At the time the doctor proceeds with the numbing of gums and extraction. I am told that they will also place four bone grafts at the same time of doing this procedure of extraction of the four teeth, only that the bone grafts are not covered by Medical and have to be paid separately. I am already in the chair and the doctor is already in process to extract first two teeth. I am telling her that I was not told anything nor given any additional estimate for such. From front desk comes a miss ** with a calculation of 1,700$ for the four bone grafts (425$ for each) and an extra 33$ to have them financed thru Western Dental, a total new calculation of 1,733$.
I am told that I either have to pay in full for the bone graft I was never quoted nor informed or apply for financing thru Western Dental. I ask who is giving the financing, I am told that is Western Dental and same Mrs. ** proceeds to open on their computer a screen where she starts imputing my informations. I state to her that I consider making payments over the next 12 months but I want statements sent at home. She says yes, but we just need a debit card to have on file to be able to get this financing approved by the office. I make very clear that I do not want any payments deducted from my debit card nor wish to have Autopay, I wish to receive statements and reiterate again the fact that I was not informed of bone grafts to be placed at same time with the extraction until the doctor started to work on my teeth. She says that they will remove the card number immediately from the file after financing is approved.
She brings me paperwork back and a receipt for 200$ they just debited from my debit card ending in 8147 and a new chart, additional one it is created for the bone grafts being "Financed" by Western Dental, chart no. **. Receipt says Sale, Order ID **, Amount 200$, shows last 4 digits of card ** and was created at 5.09.23 PM on May 16th 2018 with Ref.no. ** and Auth. Code **. As I see such I get up from the chair and go to the front desk where I speak with the manager that is wearing a name tag ** and ask her to cancel everything in regards of financing the bone grafts as I have never agreed to charges to my debit card and for my debit card to be on AutoPay and be debited. Manager refuses to remove the card from the file, I request again cancellation of all regarding any placing of four bone grafts.
Dr. ** comes after me asking to return to dentist chair so she will finish extractions, I tell her I do not want bone grafts and she says she will not put any. After extraction of teeth is finished my gum is sown and I go immediately at front desk to request the money to be put back on my card. They did not use my debit card at the terminal where they take co-pays, the card no. ending on ** was put on their computer on their Pay system.
Manager ** writes an e-mail to supposedly Western Dental Headquarters to have the 200$ reversed back to my card but refuses to give me a print-out with the reference number and tells me to call HQ and obtain it at ph.1-800-4174444 next day. In same time I am on the phone with my bank at 7.38 PM and tell them of unauthorized use of card to be billed at and input in Autopay and the bank is asking for the reference number from the manager of Western Dental office - she refuses to speak with the bank representative.
At that moment in time manager ** goes ahead and cancels the finance contract and chart no.** for the bone grafts. It is 7.45 pm, I am leaving the office at 2626 Mission St., San Francisco of Western Dental. In same evening of May 16th 2018 at 9.15 PM I file a dispute thru Citibank dispute dept., ref.** in regards of the 200$ debited and my card being placed on an Autopay system without my permission by the staff at 2626 Mission St., San Francisco, CA 94110, Next day in the morning of May 17th 2018 I call Western Dental at ph.no. I find as 888-8793290 - the one provided by Manager ** ph.1-800-4174444 does not connect at all - and thru Customer Service I get to speak with Mrs. ** at Billing Department.
I give her my name and date of birth and phone no. and she is not able at all to open the chart no. ** created for the financing contract for bone grafts and before speaking to her Customer Service also has a hard time finding my informations in their system under the initial chart no. ** created for the extraction of the four teeth. They cannot do anything to proceed to put back the money on my debit card and keep connecting me to the local office at 2626 Mission St. San Francisco.
Three times I go this route and wait for more than 20 min. each time to speak to the manager **. She does not pick up any of the calls. I end up going to the office at 2626 Mission St. San Francisco in person and request to speak with the manager as directed by Western Dental HQ three times before. Finally I get Customer Service on the phone again and Mrs. ** at ext. ** places me on hold and phone calls the local office and speaks with the Manager **. At that time supposedly per Customer Service the manager is trying to void the transaction from the previous day that they processed on my card ending in ** but they cannot do that anymore as amount already debited on my account., Customer Service Mrs. ** says that Manager ** will contact the Refund Dept. of Western Dental to request a refund.
The manager of local office does not do anything and does not provide me with anything to reflect payment being reversed back to my card. After another approx. 1h of asking the staff to call the manager to speak with me I tell them that I am going to the local police station to file a police report. The manager brings me a paper of Western Dental with Ref.no ** created at 12.54 pm by her, with my name written wrong on it as last name, by one letter. In the same time Customer Service is telling me that they do not have my debit card in the file anymore as the finance contract chart ** is already deleted from their system. I ask both the Customer Service Mrs. ** and in the same time the manager of the local office how would the money be put back on my card and bank account if there is no more card in the system and also point of the fact that on the paper I just received.
Now my name is written wrong by the local office Manager **. Takes another 30 min approx. for the Manager ** to issue another paper with Ref.no ** that has this time my name written correctly, but none of the two papers issued as the local office request for refund of my 200$ have mentioned on it my card no. or its last 4 digits, it is mentioned " Request Phase: Created and Credit Card: Yes". I ask again how many days it will take for the money to be posted back to my card and bank account. I am told 1-4 business days, then 14 business days, then 5 to 10 business days, by three different employees at front desk at local office 2626 Mission St., San Francisco.
At this moment in time show up two police officers from SFPD, badge no. ** - officer ** and ** - officer ** that were called by the local office manager from the nearby station Mission Police Station ph.415-5585400 asking me to leave premises of the office. I go outside with police officers and explain in detail what has happened to me and what the office has actually done using deceptive practice to try to get me to agree to the bone grafts.
At the same time the dentist was already working on the extractions and using my card info. to get a finance contract approved for such without me previously agreeing to such and by misleading me that I will receive statements and then actually them charging the 200$ to my card ending in 8147 that they have inputted in their system and that I am trying to have this charge reversed and that the headquarters does not have any notes placed by the manager the previous evening for a refund and that was them the headquarters who prompted me to speak with the local office and when three times I could not do that when they transferred me I came in person at the office.
The police officers tell me to go immediately to my bank with the receipt of the debit of the 200$ I was given the previous evening on May 16th 2018 by this office and with the papers that show the ref.no. ** on my correct name written by the local manager ** of the office of 2626 Mission St. SanFrancisco of Western Dental and they take a police report from me, case no. **, taken by officer ** with badge no. ** and to request to my bank to help me get the 200$ back and to sue the office of Western Dental but not to come to the office anymore at 2626 Mission St., San Francisco.
I leave after filling the report with the two police officers and I go straight to the branch of my bank where I speak with the branch manager and explain him the situation and give him the copies of the original receipt created by this local office of Western Dental when they debited ny card on May 16th 2018 at 5.09.23 PM and with the two copies of the ref.no.created by the Manager **, first one Ref.no. ** with my name spelled wrong by the manager ** and the second one ** with my name spelled correctly.
The bank manager looks up in the bank's computer and sees the reference no. from me calling the bank the previous evening and the Dispute Dpt. of the bank creating a dispute upon the debit of the account thru my debit card, ref.no of the bank for dispute ** and says that if the money are not being posted back to my account by Western Dental Refund Dept. my bank will file fraud charges. I call the Dispute Dept. of my bank after I reach home and I give them the ref.no provided by the Manager ** on my corrected name ** and they say they will submit this to the bank to be investigated and my money to be returned.
I call back the customer service no. of Western Dental to try to get in contact with somebody from management to give them the dispute no. from my bank and to ask the status of the refund, person at customer service places me on hold, calls the local office, is being told that a request was supposedly placed by the office manager and refuses to connect me further with anybody at the Refund Dept. of Western Dental or with any manager at Billing Dept. The Refund Dept. of Western Dental at HQ does not have a direct number and cannot be reached by a customer of Western Dental Directly, the number for Customer Service is 888-8793290 found by me and the number for the Billing Dept.at Western Dental HQ is 1-800-3263254 as provided to me by Customer Service I first spoken to on May 16th 2018.
I wish I would have read these reviews sooner than today upon the deceptive practices of the Western Dental, as from them I see it happened to many people in many locations so it is a practice they have into trying to get people to agree to finance procedures not previously described to them and to which they did not agree, just at the moment when dental work it is done to them, then their card informations are obtained and their cards are being debited without their permission and the local offices of Western Dental do this and the corporate office does not do anything to assist people that are ripped off thru this methods to receive their money.
In my situation if the money 200$ that Western Dental debited without my permission and used my card to create an Autopay under the chart ** for the financing of bone grafts without my permission are not posted back to my card ending in ** by tomorrow my bank and myself will file fraud charges against the Western Dental HQ and local office at 2626 Mission St., San Francisco, CA 94110.
I had one more small payment due on my only bill with Western Dental, and had just had my credit card stopped due to unauthorized activity so they tried to put thru the old number just as it was changed. I hadn't even had a chance to call them yet to tell them the new number. They proceeded to call me day + night and even AFTER I PAID the whole balance on the phone, they CALLED my EMERGENCY CONTACT person!!! For money!! So now I don't have any more Emergency Contact person. They got mad (I dont blame them at all) and said to never use their number again.
My 10 year old autistic daughter had an appointment for a check up. We arrived 10 minutes before her appointment time, and waited 30 minutes before she was called. After we went to the back we waited another hour and a half before the dentist even came over to look at her. She took less than 5 minutes and told us that my daughter will need braces. She's 10, too young in my opinion. Then she proceeded to tell me that she needed to have a cavity filled. I said, "Ok let's do that", but then she said she doesn't do that, the pediatric dentist does and we have to wait 2 weeks to get back in!
After she was done she then said, "We need to get sealant on her teeth." I said ok, and we again waited another hour before they came to do the sealant. Why does it take so long to do something so simple? And why can't a dentist do a filling? She's a dentist, it should have been done. When I asked why it was taking so long and explained I have another child getting home from school soon, and I live 30 minutes away they didn't seem to care. This place is worthless and we WILL NOT be coming back. It's ridiculous. People who came in after us were seen and done before us. Is it because they are minorities and everyone here working is minority? Go figure.
Went to Western Dental for free x-ray and exam, only to be charged $116.00, received a price of $13000.00 to repair all of my teeth. When I found out that they charged me for the x-ray I told them about it. They refused to refund the amount of the exam and x-ray, so I will spend my money elsewhere.
Western Dental is quick to take your money but when you request a refund they make you wait forever. I put in a request for a refund on the 7th of March. It wasn't approved until the 26th of March. Apparently it won't be issued until May 18th. This is ridiculous. If you are one day late on a payment they inundate you with calls asking for their money. But when they owe you a refund they see no reason to get your money back to you in a timely manner. Ridiculous. That and their focus on money rather than dental care is the reason I will no longer set foot in a Western Dental facility.
I got my braces done at Western Dental in Moreno Valley, for starters the only reason why I like going there is because of the one person who works there. Her name is ANITA. Now she's the best. I love when she does my braces cause she makes sure she does a good job and always double checks to see if I'm in pain or not. She has great customer service and really cares about her patients!
Ok I’m not one to vent publically but I have to! My mom is on Social Security and is an elderly lady and she had a tooth that was in pain which needed to be pulled... so she goes to Western Dental on Hatch Road in Modesto and without her consent they took out almost 400 dollars from her bank account. I went and paid her balance that same day so they could refund her back. I know it’s not a lot to some people but to my mom that’s all she has for the month to pay bills and for food. Now they are saying they won’t refund it back for another 30-40 days!
Please don’t go to Western Dental! There are so many horror stories dealing with them I can’t believe they are still in business! I wish I had known this before my mama went and got her tooth pulled. Oh get this. I was waiting over an hour to speak to the manager who I called two days ago and she said she’d call me back that same day and nothing from them... so I called and waited and waited... and still nothing... Please share this so other people do not have to go through this.
2014 Western Dental was recommended by my insurance company to get the most for what I needed. At first I found everyone to be very cordial and concerned. I had already been told that due to medications all my teeth would have to be pulled. Again I found WD to be very accommodating. Since getting my dentures, they have had to remake one denture that didn't fit correctly. Since then I have had six (6) teeth fall out and a seventh I must have swallowed. My last visit to have teeth rebonded, they insisted on a refit. I refused the refit and was dismissed without their fixing my denture. I purchased a repair kit and those teeth are still solid, my seventh tooth is totally new. I had a dentist actually tell me that my teeth may not be staying bonded because of poor work, not cleaning base before bonding teeth. Of course no one remembers. I am forced at this point to return to WD as they have my molds to create a new tooth. Has anyone else experienced this?
If I could give them no stars, I would. I am so disgusted and so frustrated. I went to one of the local offices in Dec for a painful tooth. I was told it was infected and needed to be extracted. My Insurance would pay for the extraction. Then they said I need a bone graft, because of bone loss in my mouth. Which I know is the truth! I said "fine, let me call my husband who was in the car!" He said it needs to be done so just put it on the Citi card! I gave the manager, the card, she ran it and came back with the receipt for me to sign it. They worked on me and I left with my receipt in hand. I get a call from the billing Dept from the corporate office saying "this is an attempt to collect a debt!" I am thinking what the heck is going on. Let me tell you all how disgustingly rude and unprofessional they are. They treat you like a common criminal.
No matter how I explained I paid this debt, they insisted I did not! The rep put me on hold saying he was going to call the local office. He came back on and said "they said you did not pay the debt!" I flipped out and hung up! I drove across town to the office and saw the manager who said I have a $0. balance, because it was paid the same day. She assured me it was cleared out. Then the harassing calls kept coming and they are getting nastier and nastier. I got one such call and asked for a supervisor who said, "Ma'am, it shows the $483.00 was paid on Dec 9th 2017." But they tried to run a charge of $9.91 in early Jan. I asked for what? I never set foot in there after they did my tooth and then a few days after to deal with the billing fiasco. He told he would submit the $9.91 bill to be audited and that should clear it up. Now here we are again today Friday Feb 2nd 2018.
More calls and a letter in the mail that I owe this money to which they added late fees, bringing it up to $508.00. I don't owe these people. I paid my bill. I am at my wit's end. I do not know what else to do. I know I am not paying a debt I already paid! You cannot speak to these people, you cannot reason with them. I have severe health issues. Two of which are uncontrollable asthma and recently diagnosed with lupus. I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone with them. Do not go to Western Dental if you could help it!
My daughter and I went for x-rays, cleaning and my daughter was gonna get a free evaluation for braces. I was getting filling done when the receptionist came in while I had tools in my mouth and tilted back in chair. She proceeded to tell me my daughter had no cavities and could get 10% off her braces making it about $89.00 a month. I said that will be great but I can't afford it and will have to talk to my ex husband. The receptionist had paper work she was trying to get me to sign while having my teeth worked on. Just then my daughter walks in and had braces on.
I couldn't believe it, I told her I absolutely could not afford braces at this time. She got me to sign paper work for $120.00 month payments. Again I told them I was upset 'cause I could not afford them. Now they won't work on my daughter. They the braces on and the billing has gone to collections. My daughter's teeth are worse now. The braces were put on in April last yr and was seen about 5 times. I tried my best to make payments but could not afford it. I talked to the newly appointed manager and told him what happened. He said he would take care of it. I said I just want this taken care of or I would be taking them to court. He said he would waive all late payment and interest and asked what I could afford. Again I said I could not afford anything.
The next appt I went to they refused to work on her until I made a payment. I told them I want them removed and I'm taking them to court. The next appt we went in offered $100.00 to take the braces off. They refused and denied us service. I will be getting an attorney and taking them to court. This was illegal and absolutely unacceptable business. To this day I had never even seen the orthodontist only the receptionist who is at fault for everything and manager one time. DO NOT TAKE YOUR CHILD TO WESTERN DENTAL OF ESCONDIDO. Worst ever!!!
I wish I could give this place 5 negative stars. They are Horrible, cruel, unethical, uncaring, inept. There are not enough negative terms to describe how terrible the service in this clinic is. Every time I have gone there the wait has always been an hour or more. They always badger me to have a lot of extra dental work that I cannot afford. When I tell them I do not have the money or credit, they keep pushing me to apply for more credit. They must be getting a commission on some of the work they bring in. I have continued to go to them because they are cheap and I live on a fixed income. I do not have the luxury of choosing a good dentist.
Two days ago, I went to Western Dental & Orthodontics for the last time. My appointment was to have a tooth pulled. I was and am still in extreme pain. While there, the dentist told me that the oral surgeon would be there tomorrow and for me to come back then. I had to wait close to one and a half hours, in a room with 2 screaming toddlers and a tv blasting cartoons. All of that, combined with severe pain, caused me to have a panic attack. The employees kept asking me why I was shaking and I told them that I have a condition called familial tremors and it is being exacerbated by my pain and the long, uncomfortable wait in the waiting room. Also, I had gotten hungry. They could not get me out of there fast enough.
Not one person in that clinic showed one bit of compassion or asked if there was anything they could do to help me. Just lying down in a dimly lit or dark room would have greatly lessened my problem. Not one person cared about my well-being. The dentist asked me if I took medications and when I mentioned getting injections in my spine she told me that the steroidal injections would cause too many problems with a tooth extraction. She never asked me anything about taking aspirin or drinking alcohol. It was obvious she wanted me out of there. Their cold and uncaring treatment in addition to my bad toothache only exacerbated the symptoms of my panic attack and familial tremors. They took my blood pressure a couple of times and then told me that they could not help me because my blood pressure was high.
With what was going on, it could not have been normal. A young man then came in and gave me a sheet of paper. He told me that they could not help me until I saw my medical doctor and had them fill out one of their forms. He told me that I could have a stroke or start bleeding out of control if they did any procedures on me and they could not take that risk. Apparently my panic attack and familial tremors seemed too serious for them to help me get the underlying problem under control. That problem was a severe toothache. From the way they treated me, it was obvious that if I had been a person with a serious health issue, they would run me out of their facility, just like they did two days ago.
They did not do anything or suggest anything for me to do that would help lessen the pain. They expected me to continue to endure the pain, make an appointment then see my regular physician, make another appointment with them, drive the 15+ miles to their clinic and on the return home, sit in that waiting room for 1 plus hours. My wait at my previous appointment was more than 2 hours and then risk a dentist not being there who can pull my tooth and me having another panic and them refusing to help me again.
I am a 61 year old retired Clinical Laboratory Scientist. I do not drink or smoke and I take very good care of myself. It is hard for me to believe that I was more of a health risk than many of the patients they work on. If they had only cared enough to give me a few minutes in a relaxing situation as opposed to making me more miserable, they could have easily extracted the tooth. I did not care to have a general anesthetic. The tooth was already very loose. At every facility where I worked, if any employee acted as rude, uncaring and unprofessional as the people at that clinic, they would have been fired the first day.
After submitting my writeup on Consumer Affairs, I kept thinking that the people at Western Dental and Orthodontics treated me like I was a drunk nuisance. I am still shocked that they would treat a person in pain so cruelly when they were the people who should have been the most capable of dissipating the terrible toothache. Dentists are highly trained medical professionals and for her to turn her back on me when I desperately needed her help was incomprehensible. Maybe they did not know what it was like for a person to have a panic attack and maybe they did not know what hereditary familial tremors were; but, they should NEVER have turned their back on me while I was in such a state of distress.
It all started on August 5, 2017 for an exam on my teeth. They explained to me that I will need a root canal done after the exam. They were so quick to get me to sign a form and told me that I had to pay for ½ of the root canal, not explaining the details. On August 12, 2017 my appointment was at 8:00 am and I had discussed with them the week prior coming in for the root canal. I was seen at 9:00 am and was there for 4 ½ hours.
Now I should have done my research before making the decision in having what I thought was going to be a good experience at the dentist office. When I on August 12, 2017, I paid $1141 for half of the root canal because that is what they said was going to be happening that day, but like an hour or so through the root canal going through extreme pain I have never experienced before and assumed the dentist would be gentle says to me, “the tooth must come out, you have too much calcium built up around the tooth.”
I was in extreme pain, crying from all the pulling he was doing and then says that to me while some just looked at me with no empathy for what he was doing to my mouth. Looking at me, a grown adult crying after an hour of my mouth opened wide, staying in that position, jaw hurting, pulling at me, hurting my mouth and trying to get the tooth out, tears flowing down my face, goes and tells me that “oh no we can’t do a root canal, we must do an extraction of the tooth,” which they told me was no charge for the extraction because my insurance paid for it.
The only thing I paid for that day was the bone replacement graph which was $420.00 dollars. They put a temporary in, took an impression of the tooth, but never received my permanent bridge because of all the problems I have had since day that day on August 12, 2017. I have had more problems since they took the tooth out then when I first came into that office for an exam on August 5, 2017. It has been a nightmare for me.
The temporary tooth broke after putting it in on August 12, 2017 and I spent another 4 hours on August 16, 2017 in the office waiting to fix it but that didn’t work either because the temporary broke again and I had to miss work, with no pay and go in on August 18, 2017 and spent another 4 hours trying to fix the problem. During all this time telling me I owe them $2300 for the other ½ of the money for the work with the permanent bridge they planned to put in my mouth on September 23, 2017 which never happened because I cancelled it all, yet I paid $1141.00 that I feel I should get back. Their main office has harassed me by calling me and telling me that I owe this money and that it will go to collections as well as go on my credit report (which now it is on there) before they could do anything else for me.
The temporary tooth broke once again and I went back in the office on August 25, 2017 to collect paperwork and they told me that I owed them the rest of the money by September 2, 2017 and I told them I didn’t have that kind of money and they explained to me that they would do a set up plan and would need my card and I told them no way will that happen. I told them that I was not paying because I am not happy with what they have done and that they haven’t really done anything for my mouth except leave my mouth in distress, which I am unable to chew on my right side, hurt beyond belief and that my temporary broke again. I cancelled all services with them and I told them I will not pay for this because you have done absolutely nothing for me. You quickly get me to sign for payment and that you are only about getting your money, yet you have done nothing to help the patient.
I called my insurance on Monday, September 11, 2017 appalled with everything that has been going on and filed a complaint with them against Western Dental, 19071 Bear Valley Road, Apple Valley, CA and they told me after I explained to them about what happened to me and that they ruined my mouth and how afraid I am to go to the dentist, they suggested that I need to file a complaint with the Dental Board to see if I can get my $1141.00 back from them. I did file a complaint with the Dental Board, but they did absolutely nothing for me. Now I am embarrassed to smile because of what they did to my mouth.
They continue to harass me for the money they say I owe them, YET they refuse to fix the problem they left in my mouth. They pulled my tooth, left one of my teeth down to the bare minimum to have some crown that never got put in there or any permanent bridge that is suppose to be in replacement of where I have no teeth that they took out. It is embarrassing and I fear the dentist because of what they did. They just want their money, yet they haven't taken care if mouth.
I had a deep cleaning done in September 2017. I purchased a product that I thought was part of my total amount due, but come to find out it was 187.00. Basically I returned the product because I paid extra for something I didn’t need and it was also on Amazon for less. I never purchased it from Amazon. They are pushy people, the Reps that come around and take care of the Accounting. They rip people off. They try to sell services and try to charge you for them that I said no to. Not a trustworthy company.
I paid 150.00 towards my total balance with my debit card. They were suppose to set up 2 installments for October and November but failed to then they charged me 25.00 late fee for a mistake they made. Payments were made and paid in full November 5, 2017. The remainder went on Care Credit. I requested my 150.00 debit/cash back and they refused. Said it never happened. Just the worst most embarrassing company. I had to talk to several people to get someone to find my 150.00 Credit. I had my copy. They still wouldn’t give me it back and said it went toward the product I had returned. I got my bank involved and they gave me the 150.00 Credit. Bank of America thank you. Finally matter was resolved and my bank sent me the letter in November all is resolved. Maria from Corporate called and said case closed. Finished.
Well in November I received another bill for 225.00. Late fee of 25.00 is still on there that initially they removed due to their error in October being they never set up automatic deduction. I sent it back saying I paid off my part and returned product case closed. Now I just received another bill something but also stating I’m 75 days past due. This is by far the worst Accounting/Billing Department and Organization ever. They won’t let up. No one knows what they are doing there. I told them this better not be affecting my credit and they need to fix this immediately. This Company has horrible reviews same type of stuff trying to scam people out of their money. They owe me an apology for harassing me for months. They get negative stars. I wouldn’t use their payment plan or visit them. It’s not worth it.
As I had to have all of my top teeth pulled due to my adult tooth was breaking my other teeth on its way down. So since I only had 5 teeth left on the bottom they pulled all of them. They fitted my mouth for the dentures while I still had all my teeth, and promised me that after my mouth was completely healed they would make a new mold and get me my permanent set. After I was all healed they told me no that I was never promised a permanent set and I would be stuck with the set that doesn't fit my mouth. What makes everything worse is that the bottom set never fit. I can't eat. What's worse is that I look stupid.
I went in for my regular checkup/cleaning and came out confused and feeling scammed as someone already have mentioned... I'm the one that have exactly the same experience... Unbelievable. My story was I already went to the dentist (another location, brand, and far from where I live) for my 6 month checkup. I only had an exam and found out I need 2 fillings. I liked to make appt. for cleaning right away but they all booked until next year. Then I just found WD on the internet that seem closer, convenience and looks nice near me. I made appt. All went great: liked the service, accept my Medi-Cal (wow that's amazing! I thought).
I went in. Everything looks nice and clean, checked. Then I show them the result I've gotten from the dentist I went before that, I have done the exam just need the cleaning part and do the 2 fillings if possible (to save unnecessary work but they said they need their own exam... Okay, makes sense). So the exam-done, then the dentist and her assistant came and check my gum with the code 5-4-3... Then left. Leave the assistant who started to explain about the numbers they were testing to me and told me I have to get the treatment which cost me $1,800 with the payment option like $78/month for 24 months! I asked why can't I just get the cleaning? She said just regular cleaning will make it worse!! So I gave up not getting my cleaning done like I suppose to. Oh they also told me I don't have cavity??? (I might have to find just the regular dentist (not fancy) to make sure what is happening in my mouth.)
From my lifetime seeing dentist every 6 months for my checkup since I was young, I've never had this kind of confused experience. I left with the big question mark in my face that "can they do that?" Refused to do the basic checkup if I'm not interested in what they're selling. (Oh they try to sell you braces too but I already had it done.) Not a good day.
This place is a joke! Parents please do the research before spending wasted time and money here. They are unorganized and they are cramming as many people as they can in for appointments. I waited over an hour just to get in for an Ortho consultation. The doctor looked at my son for less than a minute and told us he has all these issues in his mouth and jaw.
We then were taken back into an office to have a girl that barely spoke English try and tell us we would need to pay $7200+ for his two year braces experience. Huh? So, I tell them that this is outrageous and to give me a breakdown. This lady tells me it's for clear braces, which we don't need or want but apparently that is not our choice anymore??? She continues to tell me that they are now charging a 9% interest rate. lol. WOW... ** experience to begin with and now they are taking advantage. After I said, "No thank you to this rip off of a place", I did the research to find that there are places out there with good orthodontists that don't make you give a down payment. Please parents do the research and get multiple opinions if need be. Don't let this crap of a place take all your money.
I am writing this review because I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else. I went to Western initially on August 31st because I was having pain on the bottom of my mouth caused by my wisdom teeth. I was told by Dr ** the dentist that they needed to come out, she sent in Mark and he provided me with 2 estimates, one for all the work I needed and the second for the extractions. The total for the extractions was $990 and I asked him, "So my insurance doesn't cover it?" He said, "No and before we can do the procedure we will need the full payment or we can do a deposit of $455 with monthly payments of $113." I informed him I would not have the $455 so I did not proceed with the extractions at the time.
I returned to Western Dental on October 30th to see if I could get an emergency appointment because the pain had returned and it was worse. I also asked the receptionist for a complete list of everything I needed done and the codes so that I could cross reference the coverage with Delta Dental. I spoke with my insurance company and they informed me that the extractions were covered but the bone grafts were not. I had no idea what a bone graft was. I was able to get an appointment to be seen by Dr ** that same day. She didn't examine me or anything however she did look at the xray. Dr ** says to me the teeth need to come out. I said ok and told her I agreed. I told her that Mark told me the last time that I was there that it was gonna be $990 and I didn't have that also that I didn't understand why the charge was so high if Delta covered the extractions.
Dr ** says, "Yes but you NEED a bone graft" (and she kept pressing the issue and telling me that I NEEDED the grafts) still with no explanation to what this is or what it's for. Next I spoke with Mark once again and he again told me I NEEDED the grafts and again they couldn't do the procedure without a deposit or full payment. I agreed to make a deposit (which the money came out of my rent money). The day of the procedure a lady (I guess she was from billing) takes my payment and I explain to her I still don't know what a bone graft is, why I need it and what the process is for such a thing. She tells me that she will have the dentist speak with me to explain it.
Dr ** never comes to explain so at this point I am getting agitated because I still know nothing. Finally Darlene explains it to me after it was already too late and she informs me that bone grafting is an optional procedure. Now I'm confused because Dr ** and Mark both told me that I indeed NEEDED bone grafts. At this point it's already too late because I've already made a deposit because I was misinformed. I had the opportunity to speak with 2 different dentist and 3 different oral surgeons outside of Western Dental that told me there is ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR BONE GRAFTS ON WISDOM TEETH, THEY ALL have said that first I should had been informed about what it actually was and what it was for. They informed me that they only suggest bone grafting for visible teeth or for future implants but you will never get a wisdom tooth implant so there was no need.
I ended up writing a 16-page letter to a board of 7 doctors which made W.D. get my county insurance reinstated for 6 months. I had to get a new top denture made as the first one the panel of doctors made them finally give me was so big it would fit my horse’s mouth no kidding. They did not redo the partial so they never meshed up, I ended up using a Dremel to fit the top denture in my mouth. The first day home with it I finally could eat real food. I got a fish sandwich from Burger King and a back tooth crack in half on my brand new denture. After 9 months with NO TEETH in my mouth, I lost 33 pounds and was starving.
Now my bottom gum line has no bone left to hold on a full denture, so I need bone graphs and implants that my insurance won't cover. I feel Western Dental’s neglect owes me my smile back they were suppose to give me 9 years ago. I do not have $6000 they wanna charge me to get my top and bottom dentures. Who do I contact to ensure they do the work they owe even though 9 years have passed. This place needs looked into, new staff but same business practices. THEY CAN’T PRACTICE like they do and get away with screwing people over.
Western Dental & Orthodontics expert review by ConsumerAffairs
Western Dental & Orthodontics began with a single location in Los Angeles more than 100 years ago. It now has more than 200 offices throughout Arizona, California, Nevada and Texas. The practices offer general dentistry services, orthodontics, dentures and dental implants.
Options: In addition to dental services for the whole family, Western Dental offers dentures and dental implants. Dentists at each location can help patients decide which option is best for them.
Free consultation: Patients interested in learning about which options might be suitable for them can contact Western Dental 24 hours a day by phone to schedule a free consultation.
Schedule online: Both new and existing patients can schedule an appointment online without needing to call their local Western Dental office.
Financing: Western Dental & Orthodontics offers financing directly to patients so they don’t have to use credit cards or other outside financing. Even those with poor credit histories may qualify for financing.
Insurance: Patients can see a complete list of accepted dental insurance plans on Western Dental’s website. Practices in California accept Denti-Cal, making them one of the largest Denti-Cal providers.
Best for: patients in Arizona, California, Nevada or Texas, especially those looking for direct financing from their dentist.
Western Dental & Orthodontics Company Information
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