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Condor Moving Systems is a local and long-distance moving company. It offers local moves exclusively in Texas and long-distance moving services across the country. You can get a free pricing estimate on its website. It also provides free replacement coverage and a variety of additional services.
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Reviewed Feb. 5, 2021
They called on a Thursday to schedule the move on Monday. Then called back on Friday and said it was going to be on Wednesday. Lo and behold they called on Monday at 8AM and said they were down the street, we were not ready since we were expecting them on Wednesday. After they arrived and started the loading they changed the quote by $2000 and then said they wouldn't move my gun safe because they said it was not told to them it was in the basement. They finally got everything loaded and took it to long term storage. Then the cost of the storage went up by over $150 per month that was supposed to be in the original moving cost.
The delivery is even a bigger nightmare. We decided to just have it delivered to a friend's garage that is not being used. They set up the delivery for a Friday, then Friday morning they call to say they couldn't get it on the truck so a new date would be set up. They set it up for the following Thursday, then on Thursday morning I get a text saying sorry it would be delayed by a day because they ran into an issue. Now they text me Thursday night to tell me to rent a u-haul to meet him at his location tomorrow because the road he was looking at will not allow a semi-truck. I had to show him there is another way to the house, like he can't read a map. No telling if he will be there in the morning or if my goods will be in good shape. DO NOT use this company if you value your stuff and your sanity.
Reviewed Aug. 29, 2020
Be very careful when using Condor moving systems company. They trick you with an initial low price and then double or triple the final cost. For me they doubled the "binding" estimate! And added a $450 shuttle fee and violated the delivery range by more than 16 days and after total 33 days they delivered my stuff. So choose wisely and avoid this company if you can. The only thing they were not too bad at was securely wrapping my furniture, so at least after more than one month and paying a lot of money, my furniture is not broken!
Reviewed Feb. 12, 2020
Better you call them a sheep carrier, I'm sure sheep will die from suffering from their low quality service... I trusted them to move my stuff from Texas to California, however I underestimated number of packages, but they didn't tell me anything until my stuff were halfway and they reported me the weight of my stuff later. They asked me to pay 3 TIMES more than they estimated initially. They didn't deliver until they got all of that overcharge in cash from me.
At unloading the 3rd party driver and unloaders witnessed breakage of many of my items (TV stand, King Size Bed damage, kitchenware, sofa damage) and recorded on the receipt. I also took photos to submit a claim. Here is the response to the claim: "Based on the information provided in this claim and the reasons listed below, we can find no liability on behalf of the carrier and we must recommend to your moving company that no compensation be provided at this time. Due to its fragile nature, carrier accepts no liability for damages to furniture constructed of pressed wood/particle board or other manufactured wood products."
Reviewed Jan. 30, 2020
Given the number of similar negative experiences with this company, one has to wonder how they are still in business. Dealing with this company was a nightmare once my belongings were loaded. Apart from the gouging and dishonesty I experienced, an expensive item (generator) disappeared while in their possession. They were reluctant to even look for it, simply pointing out that I signed the cargo list. Just to take back possession of my goods I was forced to pay excessive additional costs for moving blankets, and about 4 times the normal cost of storage.
Reviewed July 20, 2019
An hour ago I have moved eight times in my life - both intrastate and interstate - and never have I experienced such a disaster, nor have I, or my possessions, been treated with such utter disregard. They should be put out of business. Condor was hired by myself to move me and my family from San Antonio, TX to Tulsa, OK. My itinerary entailed moving a 3000 sq ft home of furnishings, home accessories, wall hangings (mirrors, pictures), an upright piano, large stained glass pieces, outdoor decor & patio furniture, and a multitude of boxes containing fragile and non-fragile items destined for my storage units located in Tulsa, OK.
Following the move, my belongings sat untouched in my storage units. I intentionally opened my boxes at the storage unit prior to relocating them to their permanent destination in order to properly evaluate the condition of my possessions which had been poorly unloaded & atrociously arranged by Condor - heavy furniture, boxes on top of & smashing "Fragile" boxes. At this time, I discovered the extent to which my belongings and valuables were mishandled while in Condor's care.
$18,000 dollars later, 1/3 of my boxes were rifled through, numerous belongings and valuables were broken while in Condor's possession - either in transit or upon unloading and/or loading. Although very fragile belongings were meticulously wrapped by myself with excess packing paper, bubble wrap, and shrink wrap layers upon layers and explicitly labeled, "Fragile," to ensure their protection and safety while en route, countless of these irreplaceable valuables returned in shambles. Numerous items missing from my inventory all together.
Some of my wrapped and non-wrapped items were packed by Condor themselves due to time constraints. They boxed up extremely fragile items (i.e. crystal, glassware) alongside heavy tools and outdoor equipment - returned broken into pieces. I received boxes which don't even belong to me - I'm assuming a stranger has at least a box or two of mine. This is only the beginning of the mistreatment and deception.
#1 I witnessed the lead mover, Jesse, and another mover, Max, discreetly pocketing a set of tools... Still missing. Never to be seen again.#2 They overcharged me for excess, unnecessary packing materials from boxes to tape (SCAM!). Tons of tape used on my possessions; sometimes directly on my valuable possessions, ruining wood finishes, patinas, etc. (They cover almost EVERYTHING they can with tape - strand after strand. Then, charge YOU for excess rolls of tape).
#3 The movers took it upon themselves to pack my open, unpacked valuables; specifically jewelry, accessories, and tools, into an unlabeled box of their choosing without my authorization. I just happen to notice an entire drawer missing which I was to pack myself. I confronted the movers and the owner, Nisrine Gal, about it demanding an answer and assurance it would not happen again.
#4 I inquired about the cost of taking down a chandelier... $300 is their charge!! Despite declining, I was erroneously charged anyway.
#5 They mismanaged and miscalculated their time, and left my home in San Antonio on the first evening of the first day of moving (halfway through) with a partially loaded truck (2/3rds full) and did not return until two days later to complete the move. They left with my possessions, traveled to Dallas overnight where they evidently unloaded my possessions into a warehouse. This was my first cause for concern, as it didn't seem logical to not return the following morning with the same truck to collect and load my possessions...
I could go on, but not enough room. My advice, take your hard-earned money elsewhere and protect yourself & your valuables by choosing a moving company with a good reputation and positive reviews. I was remiss not to investigate Condor. Many of the negative reviews which they have received express similar experiences and complaints. Condor's egregious performance during our transaction and throughout our interstate move was nothing short of fraudulent and unethical rife with deception and disrespect.
Reviewed July 18, 2019
Horrible!! Moved from TX to VA. Initial moving company brokered my move to Condor. Please ask the right questions before signing or paying for anything!! Moving day... Cool guys came but told me one thing about my cubic feet, then told their boss something different. Liars!!! Destination - guys arrived and the truck was jam packed so tight, dude couldn't even get the first box out. Stacked inside like Legos!! Just too much stuff in the truck, so of course my things were damaged. Wood tables scraped up. A handmade ceramic vase from NYC completely broken in half. Filed a claim and it's been crickets. Worst moving experience ever and both companies, First National and Condor movers will lie to you and sing kumbaya with you. You cant piss on me and tell me it's rain. Where's my money for the items you broke and damaged!!??
Reviewed April 6, 2019
We used Condor for a huge move from Houston, TX to another state. Worst experience ever after we signed contract. The move cost us $15K for full service. When they arrived the packers divided up and the main person went over information and paperwork. When I walked in the bedroom, there was no packing going on... just dumping of items into boxes. No special care of breakable, very little bubble wrap used except for kitchen dishes and glasses. I was very upset but we were locked in and had to go with it. We were never told that our stuff would be unloaded into a warehouse and then reloaded onto a contracted truck that would then drive our items.
At our destination, there was only one person, the driver, to unload, which was until at least midnight with us helping him. He was very rude, insulted us, and became very hostile when we inquired about filing a claim for several damaged furniture items that we saw upon arrival. When we opened boxes, breakables had been stacked upon each other and every box was a mess as a result of the "packing" so more than 200 items were damaged or broken. We also discovered that a huge portion of our boxes were missing as well as pieces of our furniture and other larger items. We also received someone else's box. We could never get a straight answer and no one returned calls. We never got the remainder of our items. We filed a claim and it was denied. I am still traumatized by this nightmare move.
Reviewed Feb. 15, 2019
Condor Moving overcharged by $1200. They are a trickery company to deal with. They cheated me on volume space occupied on the truck on my apartment move. The actually volume was 500 cubic feet on arrival but they charged me 730 cubic feet on pickup at $5 per cubic feet, plus they charged me for packing material and number of walking steps to truck. Their initial estimate to me was $2200 but in the end they charged me $4800. Delivery was after 28 days. Be careful with Condor Moving!
Reviewed Jan. 29, 2019
Great JOB! Felt completely supported by this team at Condor Moving Systems. The communication was good and the mover they chose. They packed my entire household so carefully, you would have thought it was their precious furniture and items. They would keep me updated throughout the transference from KY to AZ. I have moved extensively from international to statewide and this has been the best experience ever. Thanks everyone and I highly recommend Condor Moving Systems.
Reviewed Jan. 29, 2019
I was recently transferred in my job, and had to make the move to Austin in two weeks. Condor Moving Services was really easy to work with, and they had no trouble working with my time frame. The movers were very professional, even when it came to relocating boxes several times into several different rooms! I think that their prices were fair. I would strongly recommend this company to anyone else in the process of moving.
Reviewed Jan. 28, 2019
My husband and I recently moved from Rutherford, New Jersey to two of Dallas, Texas. Condor Moving Systems really helped to make it happen with relative ease. I had called around for four or five different quotes and they were one of the easiest to deal with as well as one of the companies with the more reasonable price quotes. My truck team leader was in charge of four other guys and it seemed they had clear communication with one another to make the process happen as fast as possible without breaking anything.
The team was polite, respectful in conversation as well as with my things, and extremely helpful. The team as a whole was very impressive and I cannot thank them enough. They happened to be moving us on one of the coldest days of winter thus far and still got the job done in the time period promised. I was happy to have them working with me - all of my belongings made it safely and I would definitely use them again in the future.
Reviewed Jan. 28, 2019
Nobody likes moving from Texas to Boston, but Condor made it downright pleasant! Of everything that went wrong during my move (and there were oh so many), I can definitively say Condor wasn’t one of them. People don’t move very often, and it sorta sucks when they do, which is why it’s important to not waste time going with lousy moving companies. Everyone has a horror story, but you won’t if you go with these fine folks!
All I can say is this: Don’t be afraid to talk to them! The man at the front office was more than happy to walk me through their pricing and contracts, and everything made total sense after working through it. The movers were right on-time and properly prepared, and everything got packed up a smidge faster than they predicted. I was worried about moving my entire life halfway across the country, but seeing the care they put into their craft really made me feel better about the entire situation.
When we got to Boston they were just as helpful unpacking, and they had nothing but nice things to say about our new digs, which wasn’t required but sure did feel nice! They were courteous, professional, timely, and ahead of schedule, which is always a plus. If you need to do a massive move in or around Texas, you need to talk to Condor! I’d hire them again if I had to move again. (Fingers crossed, I won’t have to move again anytime soon!)
Reviewed Jan. 25, 2019
I recently moved from Fort Worth, Texas to NYC for a job. It was a huge move for me and my family. I had a really great experience with this company. I would definitely hire them again if we ever have to move somewhere else.
Reviewed Nov. 7, 2018
I had the unfortunate luck to have used this company. Everything sounded good, their estimates were a little higher than few other companies but I liked the idea of using a Texas based company, and it seemed like they had good business practices... I was wrong. Everything from getting the estimate to having the movers pack up the stuff went smoothly, then the nightmare began. My furniture was delayed by nearly 2 weeks, past the estimated date, and for what reason? Because the driver kept "running into issues". It turned into so much of an issue, that one of the managers "Maj" just gave me his number so I can deal with him directly.
Finally when they came with my stuff, most of the boxes looked like they had been smashed. It looked like the truck had flipped over a couple of times on its way! My TV screen was completely cracked, they left permanent damage to the couch and broke a bookshelf. Now I'm dealing with a 3rd party they use for claims, don't expect to get a single cent. PLEASE RESEARCH OTHER COMPANIES, they're all movers, and inherently have the power over you once they have your stuff, but DON'T USE CONDOR if you want your stuff intact and on time.
Reviewed Sept. 8, 2018
I’ve moved 11 times for the past 15 years and this company made my last move the worst of all by far!!!! They quoted me about $1800. Packed my stuff, put them in the truck and then asked me to pay $2000 extra. They never told me of the extra charge before packing them while the paperwork I signed (without carefully reading), was claiming that they did. In other word, they legally tricked me. By “they” I mean the driver named Dove. Such a thief! Others like Big Jesse, Joan and Maj in the office were respectful and professional. I even asked them to donate the extra money they unfairly took from me to a charity of their choice, but got no response. And wait for it… they lost a piece of my bed and shoe rack. Filed a claim and it says it takes them 30-90 days to process it. Bottom line, save your money and mental health by not making contract with this moving company.
Reviewed June 29, 2018
Mario ** was initially great when we first spoke and considered booking them. But as soon as we paid our deposit, it was hard to get ahold of him and when we did reach him, he sounded bored and bothered by our concerns and questions about the status of our move. He also didn't know a lot of the answers about our move once items were picked up. His "boss" Maj ** was even worse. She was extremely unprofessional. She never answered our calls. When we left VM giving specifics about when we were available, she would call back knowing we weren't available. She refused to give me her supervisor's name. When I talked to him, Emmitt, he was just as bad. He was extremely unkind. Between the three of them, we never got a straight answer as to our move and how to make a payment.
To be clear, upon pick up, they were incorrect on the information they gave us about the new charges. They never acknowledged their error and the confusion it caused. Then they said we could make a payment, but delayed and ignored calls until finally they told us we couldn't pay or make a payment with credit card. They tied our hands and left us stranded. Condor Moving Systems staff is rude and unprofessional. I would add lazy and incompetent. Do not use Condor. Thankfully I'm able to leave a 0 star review. The staff doesn't deserve even 1/4 of a star. The movers were pleasant enough, but the actual company - admin, accounting, sales - the entire team is horrible.
Reviewed April 14, 2018
I don't know where to start. The owner of the company came to give me a quote. He seemed very nice and personable. He assured me that his company would take care of me and my family and gave me a very reasonable quote. We talked about our things arriving to our new home (from Dallas to VA) 3 days after being loaded onto the truck. The day of movers were on time and absolutely wonderful. Unfortunately, that's where the service STOPPED. We were first told that the truck would be a day later than originally anticipated. It was then that I learned that they put our things on a semi loaded with others' belongings. This was never discussed with me the day of. Had I known, I would NEVER had hired this company. We were then told it would be a couple MORE days because the truck broke down.
Meanwhile, we are in our new home in our new state with NOTHING - with our two young children. No cookware, no beds, no towels, no lunchboxes for school, no school clothes, etc. THEN we were told (by the driver) that he would be even more late because he was delivering other things to other people in other states. Probably with our stuff on the back. THEN I was told that the truck was broken down still. The stories did not add up and Condor continued offering false promises and apologies and excuses. NOW, the delivery driver is refusing to give me ANY updates as to the whereabouts of our things or even a possible delivery date. No responses from Condor. No answers. Just excuses.
This has been such a nightmare and has put such a stain on this entire move. I have no idea if we will ever see our things again. Some of my items belong to my late husband who died in the line of duty. I had planned to pass them down to our son. Now I may never have the chance. Think twice before you hire this moving company. LOOK AT EVERY WORD IN THE CONTRACT.
Reviewed Aug. 18, 2017
They tried to get me to sign a document so I wouldn't tell my story and they would give me $450. instead of the thousands I was due. In part it read that I was to keep everything confidential and private, to not file any complaints to government, state or county. Not for $450. Also if anyone in Redwood Texas is missing a box and used Condor it was delivered to Westminster Colorado.
In calling your office on Monday August 14, 2017 I was informed by Jesse ** that if I filed a complaint or notified any official department that my claim would not be reviewed. Your salesperson, Mario **, was never upfront regarding our move leaving us stranded at my home in Dallas after home was sold and papers were signed. All directions given to us were followed to the letter. When stranded your foreman Amit ** was rude and discourteous not only to me but also my daughter, hanging up on us twice. We were then referred to Maj ** who showed no compassion for our situation, and unconcerned not showing customer service to be her priority.
Movers used so much tape on our possessions even items that were already plastic wrapped. Driver wasn’t told we were to get FREE mattress boxes; his handwriting on the bill of lading was unreadable but we were glad that things were starting to move. We were so glad we gave the driver our refrigerator and paid each guy $20.00 each. Your company was so misrepresented that we were unaware that our furniture was being moved by several people, into several trucks, wrapped and unwrapped. I believe that is called BROKERS. Once the driver arrived ALONE in a United Van Lines Truck USDOT **, Daniel Phone ** refused to drive into the apartment complex; having picture evidence that he could; we were scrammed out of an additional $750.00. The driver then began to break a few more Federal Regulations according to their website:
1. Had my children off-loading furniture into the smaller truck, and then off-loading it again into my apartment. While doing this the driver dropped several items off the truck. 2. Forced me to sign the bill of lading before truck was unloading, thus holding all of my possessions hostage, until I signed and paid him. 3. Hired people off Craigslist who were unlicensed and inexperienced in moving and not bonded to offload my possessions, he even recruited the neighbor that we refused to have him help because he was stoned. 4. Never took inventory of the items on bill of lading thus not noticing that two of the boxes were not ours and two of ours were missing, along with a two wheel dolly (text messages from Daniel showing that he was aware of items missing).
5. Failed to give copy of weight receipt for additional fees charged. 6. Tried to use a hammer to fix my daughter’s broken TV stand that was scratched, bent and broken while in the possession of Condor. According to our estimate for the repairs all the damage was done while the TV stand was unwrapped and in your custody. There were few boxes that were not damaged in some way by the moving process.
In adhering to all Condor’s rules and regulations before, during and after, a claim was filed resulting in an unreasonable recommendation per your AMSA certified claims adjusters was received. We have video proof of all items that were loading onto Condor’s truck in front of our home. We documented, have evidence, provided receipts of missing, broken items and purchased estimates. Your company has also failed to abide by the American Moving and Storage Association code of ethics, as well as failed the review of professional business standards and should not be recognized as a quality moving company. Another unsatisfied customer.
Reviewed Jan. 22, 2017
I was moving from TX to NM. The movers came in group of 3 to pack my furniture and stuff. They were polite, however I paid for laundry machines to be wrapped in cardboard boxes and the movers didn't. Almost three weeks, I called Condor in Arlington to bring my stuff to NM and ask when they can bring them, a guy named Jeese told me that he does not have definite idea or schedule and promised to call 2 days before bringing my stuff as to let me know. But yesterday (Jan. 21), he called in the morning and told me that my stuff will arrive today (Jan.22), so I have apartment office to give me a key as office is closed on Sunday.
What Condor failed to mention is that I will be receiving my stuff from RYDER (not Condor) rental truck and instead of 2 or 3 movers, I get only ONE mover who is a SUBCONTRACTOR who bought some sort of boxer dog. My mother told Condor not to send movers that are smokers or have close contact with animals, because she has severe allergies. When I asked a mover to leave a dog, he gave me an unprofessional and uncaring attitude.
When my mother asked him if there will be 2nd mover coming to help, a mover said "No, I can do this. I've been doing this for 16 years". Again, with lack of professionalism. When my mom called Condor to complain about having one mover and a dog, a mover walked in and in hostile tone, he said "You better not call the office again." When we asked him for his name, he refuse to answer. When we asked again, he sarcastically said "Michael Jackson". When we asked for 3rd time, he told us "to shut up". He then told me to "shut the ** up and let me do my job."
We told him to place the furniture and stuff in living and dining area as well as telling him to leave enough space so apartment workers can walk in to clean the apartment. Instead, he tried to pile stuff in dining area and when we repeated what we told him while he was using a cardboard cutter to cut tapes, he got upset and point a cutter at my mom and talked her down. When I said "Do not talk to her in that way", he said, "Watch your mouth. What you going to do, boy? Hide behind mommy?" Guess what, Condor? Couple minutes later and after my mom called the office again and told a mover that the furniture should go into living area, he scoffed and disrespected her again. When I said something, he goes "One more time, I will kick your **, boy." I told him that I will report his hostility to his boss.
Your subcontractor made a threat to me. Three times total. Let me emphasize it. I felt scared and angry at this subcontractor of yours with my heart beating almost frantically and that disgusting expression on subcontractor's face. His behavior, his tone, and his body language all screamed hostility. Not only he was hostile, he dropped my laundry dryer too.
Let me summarize this about a mover/subcontractor, Condor. A subcontractor refuse to give us his name. His lack of professionalism. Hostility and no self-control, plus THREE threats to me and my mom with "You better not call office again", "Shut up, I'm going to kick your **", and "One time more, I will kick your **". He dropped my dryer machine on concrete. Furthermore, the three movers back in Texas failed to attach the bolts and screws that some of my furniture need to be assembled. But there's more. The lady named Fey something in Arlington told us that a subcontractor work for Condor while other one named Emit said otherwise. Does any of these seem acceptable to you? ANY of these?

Reviewed March 21, 2016
Never doing business with them again. On the pickup day, I was advised to leave the couch since it was in ok condition and was told that I can call their office for quote readjustment to get the reimbursement for that. After 5 days, I got a call from delivery saying that he would be there Sunday night 4 - 8 PM. Obviously, the guy doesn't show up; neither replies to my calls and messages. He calls next morning to schedule delivery between 9 AM - 12 PM. I was even more disappointed when I saw the condition of my shipment. The boxes were so smashed up that contents were falling out. Floor lamp lost. Heavy scratches in many items. Mattress box torn etc etc. The next day, I called their office for price readjustment for couch and to file claim. I was shamelessly told that they would not readjust the price because this was a binding contract and cannot be changed. ** THUGS. Stay away from these bandits.
Reviewed Oct. 16, 2015
DO NOT...I repeat, DO NOT use Condor movers. We moved from the Houston area to Washington DC about 5 months ago. We chose Condor because their representative lead us to believe that they were one of the most reputable movers in the area which included full replacement value for any damaged items. The move was a disaster from the start. The movers showed up and proceeded to pack and tag our items. Little did we know that another team with the truck had to arrive separately. The second team wound up arriving almost 5 hours later than the time we were told which meant that they were there until almost midnight packing up our house.
When we arrived in DC we told Condor that the complex we were moving into had restrictions for when trucks could be on the premises, 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. Of course, the same moving team was late...AGAIN. Additionally, the complex restricted the size of the truck which meant that the movers needed to bring a large truck and park it outside the complex and transfer the load to a smaller truck. All of this was made clear far in advance and we were told that it wasn't uncommon in the DC area. Since the movers arrived late, everything was unorganized. That coupled with the fact that the movers themselves were unprofessional and subpar made for a disaster.
Once the movers emptied the first load, we were told that they were going back for the second. An hour and a half and they still weren't back. My husband drove out to the truck to find the movers sitting and laughing in the truck. And by the way, it was now past 3:30 p.m. To make matters worse, the movers showed little to no care with our items. I walked out and actually saw one of them throw a box marked "FRAGILE" off of the truck. When he saw me he tried to play it off but by then we were beyond frustrated. And to add insult to injury, I was just informed that the over $2,000 of damage caused by these shady movers has all been denied for various reasons. We will most certainly be filing a grievance with the BBB and whomever else we can find. But if my review can spare someone else the time loss, financial loss, and frustration then I will be happy.
Reviewed Sept. 3, 2015
There was great encouragement and promising information over the phone upfront by the sales rep which convinced me to give Condor a shot over trying **, but when it came to actually performing the service, it was clear that my belongings were not being cared for at all. At pick up, the individual in charge wanted to charge me more money than what was already quoted and agreed to with the sales rep. I told him that we needed to immediately call the sales rep and he responded with a crass "It's not worth it..." And from that point on, took on a "screw you" demeanor.
I felt as this was some sort of scam to get more money for himself and/or his crew (The fact that they only take cash payments would certainly facilitate such a possibility). All my stuff was then handled very poorly and thrown, stacked and smashed around. Both of my bicycles suffered damage, one with a severely bent tire rim and the other with a broken headlight and fairings. Most of my boxes were severely crushed. All of my items did arrive, but it took me insisting on getting itemized accounting from the delivery folks who also stacked and smashed things around in a uncaring fashion.
In addition to the damage to both bicycles, there were several items completely broken in the smashed boxes. Our mattress (which I had covered in a thick protective cover bought at U-haul) arrived with a large portion of the covering torn and black grease marks on the exposed areas. Luckily, a lot of our items were not breakables so the damage potential was minimized. I pointed some of these problems to the delivery person (who was more concerned about getting paid upfront, before me even seeing my items, than caring anything about my goods) who then stated that any damages are subject to the deductible $500, and I would need to call to get them taken care of.
Overall, disgusted with the quality of service and expecting a battle to get even a penny back (my assumption), I decided to count this as an unfortunate lesson learned and not bother calling in to try and get any restitution for damages. From a customer perspective, while it's nice to hear all the fluffy promises upfront, my top Key Performance Indicator is how well my belongings are being handled and cared for along the way and in this particular area, my one time experience would grade Condor Moving as a complete failure never to be recommended or used again.
Reviewed Aug. 8, 2015
Please be aware before using this company. They will tell you one thing when they pick up and change when they deliver. Picked up people to unload at our new home that did not work for company Not to mention damage to our belongings.
Reviewed Dec. 12, 2014
I LOST 500 DLLS to this company and still my move was cheaper than what they wanted me to pay. Stay AWAY from this company! I requested Mario, a salesman with condor moving systems, a max quote for their service. He gave me one, but the moment the movers arrived to my home they said I was going to have to pay 2000 dlls more than what I was quoted. The movers said that working for that company was awful because every time they got to a home or business they had to deal with angry customers that were being overcharged. Amit, the supervisor, is even more deceptive and a bs than Mario. I would like to know if I can report this company or do something about the way they trick you.
Reviewed Nov. 4, 2014
I read the contract - they followed the contract. Most complaints have to do with the details in the contract from what I have read - it lays it all out there. Yes there is a fee for using a CC for anything besides the deposit. Yes they can hold your items as they have a delivery window to deliver them and they don't send them on the same truck they loaded... It is standard moving procedures (I have moved 5 times between states). It lays out the stairs and fees and what is included in the base price. Read the contract is the best advice I can give - and make sure you understand what it is saying. Ask questions.
The team to move me out of TX was awesome and friendly, fast and helpful. Yes they were a little late but let me know they would be (traffic leaving Dallas and they had to get to San Antonio - not a short drive). The team delivering in CA were respectful, quick and friendly. They were on time and called a couple times to verify.
Sal was great to work with and dealt with my craziness well. To be honest I picked Condor as the lesser of the evils in regard to reviews and because Sal DID NOT call me every day, multiple times per day when I was insanely busy - other companies made me feel harassed. He listened when I wanted to change the weight and explained things to me.
I also liked that Condor went by weight and not cubic feet... That to me is easier to prove because weight does not change by how it is put in the truck or leaving items in or removing them from dressers etc.
Yes I was charged for a few more boxes than I originally purchased (I had them provide mattress boxes and 2 mirror boxes for large mirrors) but it was explained to me that the desk top was glass so they were required to pack it separate and not ship as the intact desk... Ok I can deal with the extra $200 (I do think the boxes are too much $ but nothing I can do).
Also I am missing 1 box. It has some low value items but sentimental ones. I have started looking into how to find it, if possible. However I feel 1 box isn't bad... I have lost more. In short - I would use them again and recommend them as honest and reliable.
Reviewed July 21, 2014
I hired Condor to move my household and my mother's. Their foreman, as he referred to himself, promised he would deliver our furniture in 6 days. When we called to find out where they were on the sixth day, we were told it would be another 5 days and they don't make promises for delivery. They totally misrepresent their service and the only recommendation I would give is "run" as far from this company as possible. Our moving arrangements were made based on their promise and now we are faced with another $1000 of living expenses because they were not honest with us and then called us liars, when in fact it was their representative that lied to us.
Reviewed July 10, 2014
I booked this mover after specifically asking if they were a broker and was assured that it was; all their own trucks and employees. They showed up, not with the 18-wheeler that I was told would directly transport my furniture to Florida, but with a smaller truck and was told it would change trucks in Arlington, TX. It has now been a week after calling for a deliver estimate time. They told me it is still sitting in the building in Texas. I was originally told 4-10 days from first day, I can receive the delivery, and now it has turned into 10 business days. They also charged me for 500 pounds extra when I under packed by 5 boxes on the original estimate. ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE THIS MOVER!! REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY TELL YOU.
Reviewed June 3, 2014
Their movers damaged the property of my home. They tried to hide a hole in the wall. Amit at Condor claimed if we e-mailed him a picture of the damage, they would pay. He never returned our phone calls or emails. They only allow cash out money order payments. I believe this is so you cannot dispute the move with anyone. USE ANYONE ELSE!!!
Reviewed April 28, 2014
Condor moving company moved my furniture in March of 2014. I received my plasma tv with multiple cracks, my $200+ L-shaped desk was completely bent in the middle and broken on the sides and other scratches to my furniture. These people will not pay my claim after I paid them over $2k to move my stuff from Texas to Georgia, but said if I want to go thru arbitration, I have to pay an additional $150. The hell I will. The driver that delivered my furniture was on the phone the majority of the time, then paid someone else to come help them move my stuff. He cursed out one of the helpers and was very disrespectful. He walked thru my house, asking me for water and more. This company should be out of business with the complaints they had. The only reason I went with this company because of Sandy and her pleasantness. Do not pay these people to move your stuff. They are not worth it.
Reviewed Sept. 20, 2013
On 9/4/13 Condor Moving Services contracted to move me. The day prior to the move I received a call from Condor dispatch confirming they had me booked for 7am on 9/4/13. They showed up 4 hours late with someone else's furniture on the truck that was supposed to move my furniture. When I inquired about the delayed arrival of the movers, I was told it was a mix-up on Condor's part.
They dropped the insert for my formal dining room table, they scratched furniture, and when unpacking boxes I found items broken. I suspect this was due to them placing large furniture items on the boxes. Because of limited space on the truck - they had to make 2 trips and were going to charge me for the second trip. I complained and spoke with a supervisor who waved the 2nd trip charge. I found out from a worker the reason for the other client’s furniture being placed on the truck was a favor to the owner.
I received a confirmation email from Maro ** order # ** - he was very professional when booking my move. Because of his professionalism and courtesy, I thought this would be an exceptional move experience, but in fact in turned into a nightmare. When I called the customer service rep, I was told at least they didn't cancel my move all together. That comment is insensitive and horrible customer service. I will never use this company again and will tell everyone about my experience.
Reviewed Jan. 17, 2013
I booked the mover, but should have read the reviews first. They were right. They said I had 60 items. When they got there, it turned into 100 items and tried to charge $600 more for it. However, when you take my son's bunk bed apart and count every board as an item, then yes I will not have the 60 items you quoted me to have. If you don't reassemble items, you should not advertise that you do! They don't reassemble bunk beds. When a bunk bed is part of the inventory, you should be professional and have good customer service skills and tell me that you don't! Boxes were crushed. They changed trucks and hire local random people to move my stuff in; one of which had mud all over his shoes and pants. I have used other long distance pro movers and would not want my worst enemy to have to go through what I did with this company!
Reviewed Nov. 12, 2012
This company moved us from Austin TX to Hoboken NJ after a lot of convincing due to their horrible reviews. The sales people were very nice, reassuring and their rates competitive. Well, I regret using them now. I understand that things get broken on a move like this, but we took extra care to pack everything, except a few items that we paid extra for them to pack like original art, TV’s, etc. We should have packed those items ourselves. A piece of original art had tape directly placed on it that removed the paint. In the end, we had about $3k worth of damages and their insurance company offered us $35 after the deductible. What a nightmare. The Better Business Bureau was no help, so now I have to go after them in the small claims court. Don't ever use these guys. If I could give them zero stars, I would. They break stuff and take no responsibility.
Reviewed Aug. 15, 2012
I don't even know where to begin in this total nightmare. We hired Condor Moving Systems in Arlington, TX to move us from Texas to Oregon. When my fiancé called, she talked to a guy named Mario. While discussing our options, she specifically told Mario that we had heard that some moving companies are actually brokers and do not own their own fleet of trucks. We did not want our belongings to be switched from truck to truck simply because the more it is handled, the more likely it is to get damaged. Mario told us that they were not brokers and that the 18-wheeler that showed up at my door would be the same truck that would carry our belongings to Oregon. We continued calling moving companies and getting estimates but we kept Condor Moving Systems in our minds as an option. Mario had specifically asked us if they would be able to park an 18-wheeler outside of our house. We said, "Yes." That question led us to believe that an 18-wheeler would be showing up at our door.
We were shocked when a 26-foot truck showed up at our door. This truck would go and unload our belongings to another facility where they would be unloaded and then reloaded onto the 18-wheeler heading out to Oregon. We were never told that this would happen. We wouldn't have agreed to having our belongings switched from truck to truck. The guy that arrived with the small truck (and his crew) has so far been the only people at Condor Moving Systems to follow through on their promises. My fiancé called Condor Moving Systems nearly every day to check on the status of the truck because they would not call us with updates. Every day, she got a different ETA on when our belongings would be put on the truck for Oregon. After several days, we were told that Condor Moving Systems would be sending our belongings on an 18-wheeler all to themselves. Our belongings wouldn't have to share the 18-wheeler with anybody else's belongings.
A few days after pickup, we received a call from Condor stating that we owed them more money because our load weighed more than they had estimated. This left both of us scratching our heads. We had already given them a complete list of what they would be picking up. We even called them back several times to edit the list because we sold some things before we moved. We reviewed the list and respective weights prior to pickup and we quickly noticed that almost every item was logged as weighing more than it actually does. We were satisfied because that meant that we were covered because many of the items weighed nowhere near what they had estimated. This was good. It was determined by Condor that we should have about 80 boxes, aside from all the furniture and other items already on the roster. When it was all said and done, we ended up with about 136 boxes. We were told that this is where the extra weight came from and that Condor's shipping software has built in weight for items and box size.
What is an average box? Well, let’s go back to grade school for a simple refresher in mathematics: 136 boxes minus 80 boxes leaves 56 boxes. Take the amount we were overcharged (approximately $2,500) and divide by 56. This gives you a weight of about 46 pounds per box over. Having previously owned a swimming pool, I am all too familiar with what 50 pounds feels like because that is exactly what a canister of chlorine weighs. These boxes did not weigh 46 pounds each. Did we have other items? Of course, we did. In fact, we had a total of about 205 pieces total, 136 were boxes, and most of the rest was what they gave us an estimate for prior. There were other lightweight items as well. Such as plastic vanity waste baskets, two aluminum ladders, ice chest, etc. The majority of the weight was predetermined. Mario gave us a maximum monetary figure that we were told would be the absolute worst case scenario. This far exceeded that. It became clear that Condor was out to cheat us and having read other reviews about this company, our suspicions were validated.
It seems this bait and switch scam has been in practice for quite some time at Condor, all the way back to 2009 to be exact. The common denominator in almost every complaint is this scam. They are nice and friendly up front, give you a quote based on your inventory, and even give you a maximum amount as a worst case scenario. The scam comes in to play when they give you a lowball estimate to get you to commit and call after they have your goods stating that you owe more money because they lowballed the estimate to hook you. If there were just a few isolated claims, I could see where there may have been bad communication or a misunderstanding. However, there are a multitude (many, many) of complaints about this company all over the web and nearly all of them involve complaints about this scam. You also find out after the fact that your belongings are not insured if you pack them yourself.
We were told that we could be present during the weighing of the truck. What they do not tell you is that your belongings are on the same 53 trailer as the belongings of four other poor cheated souls in other locations. So, it is impossible to know what your section of the load weighs unless you unload the entire truck, leave and weigh it, and then come back and reload and go weigh again. The driver that delivered stated that he was not told to weigh the truck before coming to deliver. Since they arrived after dark, there was no place to take it to get it weighed. He also would not take a cashier's check. This after Nisrine stated very clearly that she called and told him to accept it. So, the driver refused to unload our belongings because it would get him in trouble with his boss, neither of which is employed by Condor. At this point, we were at our wit's end. We were so sick of having to continually re-live this ongoing nightmare with this company.
After about an hour of trying to reach someone at Condor, we finally just left a message. Jessie called back and asked to speak to the driver. Twenty minutes later, we were back on track. The driver insisted that Nisrine had not called him with instructions to take the check. Someone lied. The driver showed us his call history and guess what? There were no calls from any Arlington based numbers. The drivers also come unequipped. No tools, nothing. They wanted to borrow our tools to do their job. I told them they were out of luck because my tools were packed on the truck. After getting the truck unloaded and furniture assembled, the driver insisted that we sign off on the paperwork even though boxes were missing. He said if we did not, he would get in trouble with his boss. We signed it, but we also got a signed affidavit from him stating exactly what happened.
We mentioned in conversation to the driver what Condor had done to us in regard to the overweight boxes. He made the comment that our items were light in weight and weighed nowhere near 46 lbs. per unit. He also stated that he and his assistant were horrified as they witnessed the way in which Condor employees loaded the truck. They could not believe what they were seeing, throwing boxes and stacking light boxes under heavier boxes which led to a lot of our damage. Aside from the boxes, we were also missing a 20 foot extension ladder and a professional grade aluminum dolly that I used in my previous line of work. The drivers finally left our house at 2am exhausted, as were we.
When my fiancé contacted Condor about the missing items, she talked to Nisrine. Nisrine promised us reimbursement outside of their third party claim office for the ladder and dolly because of all the grief we had been through at this point. As of today, all we have received is the money for the ladder. I talked to a guy at Condor about the dolly. He was very condescending and insinuated that I had picked out this particular dolly because it was one of the upper end dollies and was more expensive. He said it seemed odd that I picked out such an expensive one to be reimbursed for. I could not believe the audacity in this statement! I told him that the dolly costs less now than when I bought it years ago.
So, if my intention was to cheat him, I would have claimed what I paid for it, not what it is selling for now. He tried to lowball me citing depreciation issues. What does depreciation have to do with them losing my dolly? He also stated that he might get in trouble if he paid me the full amount. He stated that he would look into it further and call me back. Two weeks passed and you know what? No one ever called, as has become expected at this point. I emailed Nisrine because no one wants to talk and asked her about the status of my dolly because the guy never called me back. She emailed back and stated she would have to inquire about it.
After not hearing back from her, I emailed again the next day to which she replied, "After speaking with Emit, you need to go ahead and send a claim for the dolly with items that your fiancé had said she was filing a claim for." I could not believe what I was reading! We do not have a problem filing a claim for all the items that your people damaged or even the items in the boxes that are still missing. Our problem is that this woman promised us reimbursement and has failed to follow through. So, yet another empty promise. You know what? You should not have misplaced it! While we are on the subject, how does someone misplace a 20-foot extension ladder and a 4-foot tall aluminum dolly? In retrospect, after reading a multitude of negative reviews, it seems that my ladder was not the first ladder that got misplaced. Bicycles seem to mysteriously disappear with this company as well. I strongly urge any prospective customers to read reviews for Condor Moving Systems before committing. It is absolutely appalling reading about the horrible things this company has done to its customers!
I really wish we had done better research and had seen all the horrible reviews before we committed to use this company. We both regret using them now. There is a reason why this company does not have a BBB (Better Business Bureau) logo on their website. They have not earned it. I urge you to go and read the complaints there. Their stories are nearly identical to ours.
Reviewed June 12, 2012
We just received our belongings from Condor Moving Systems in our move from TX to NV on 6/11/12 and it was one of the most awful experiences from start to finish that we have ever been through. We wanted to utilize a moving company for the first time due to large workout equipment and other furniture that would be better moved long distances by professionals. In summary, they will tell you anything you want to hear to get you signed up, and then state it is not in the contract when asked about it. They tell you your belongings will be packed on an 18-wheeler from the beginning and then show up in a 26-foot truck that cannot hold everything, even if you provided them all the detailed measurements prior. They do not use their own equipment as promised. The truck that was initially loaded and the truck that delivered our belongings were all rented, not owned by Condor.
The gentleman who was the driver at the time of delivery was not a Condor employee and worked for All You Can Move, which was who the truck was rented to as I took pictures of the truck and DOT registration. They showed up to deliver our belongings 7 hours late. I was contacted by them to say between 9 am and 12 pm and they showed up at 7 pm due to mechanical problems with the rented truck. They did keep us informed during this time delay, though. When they finally did arrive, the truck did not have a power lift as promised and some of our boxes were crushed and mangled along with plastic tubs busted out from excess weight applied on them. One chair had a leg completely broken off and there were rollers missing off of others. Computer hutch has a missing bottom railing and will not be set level. Workout equipment plastic covers were cracked or missing and there were other various nicks and dings on the furniture. The bottom line is that the items were not taken care of.
Four of our boxes did not even make it and were lost. When these boxes were not accounted for after checking off each box unloaded from the inventory sheet they provided and made while loading up the 18-wheeler, the reply from the driver/person in charge was, "Well, only losing 4 out of 182 isn't too bad, is it?" The contract was to deliver all of our belongings, not some of them. The driver wanted us to sign off on the paperwork, even though the four boxes were nowhere to be found. We refused. The person in charge at corporate, Amit **, is condescending and said, “Everything that occurs is your fault because you did not call him and not because his crew/team did not perform well.” They even mislead the moving team they hired in NV and told them the load weighed less than it did. What was supposed to be a positive experience was made into a nightmare by Condor. The team of Amit, Jesse and JR at Condor, is professional at lying, deceiving and misleading, but surely not at moving.
Reviewed June 6, 2012
I hired Condor Moving to move me from Oklahoma to Pennsylvania in May 2012. I was very skeptical after reading a number of poor reviews, not just about them but all movers. Even though Mario ** set up the move, I felt it necessary to speak to the owner/manager, Emmett **. He did a great job of explaining their process and gave me several contact numbers to reach him in the event anything went wrong. I must say I was very pleasantly surprised at how well everything went. They arrived for the pick up on time and were very careful with my furnishings.
The team was courteous and competent. My things arrived at the destination "on time," the exact day they were scheduled and again the team (a different team) unloaded and was most courteous and competent. The move went off without a hitch. The price was as promised. The communication was excellent and the things arrived unbroken. I have never give an internet review before but after seeing many negative things, I am happy to report a positive experience. On a scale of 1-10, I give Condor a 10!
Reviewed Feb. 4, 2012
Condor movers ended up charging me almost double than what they quoted me. I asked to be present at weigh in/out--that never happened. My furniture was damaged, and items were broke. They contracted my "load" to another company when they had my stuff delivered. I have contacted them by phone and email over a month ago to make a claim on the "so-called" insurance that I had against my shipment and no one has returned my call.
Reviewed Sept. 27, 2011
Initial estimate was $749.00 but I was overcharged with a final amount of $1400. They gave me no option but to pay the remaining amount. When we argued about this on repeated phone calls, they gave us the "re-weigh" option. But the truck driver never called us from a weighing station. The truck driver collected the amount before even showing the boxes to us. They were all damaged. When we called back Condor and asked why the re-weigh was not done, they refused that we have asked for the re-weigh, They insisted that when the delivery was made, we should have called customer service. Delivery was made on Tuesday at 6:30 PM. Their offices are open only till 6:00.
Reviewed June 21, 2011
I scheduled and prepaid for a move that they cancelled less than 24 hours in advance. My house was packed, our travel plans made, and I get a call the morning before the move that they were cancelling and would not help me, even though I had already paid. I had a signed, paid contract that they completely ignored and refused to help. I only wish I had read the complaints before. Do not use this moving system. $1013 in unrefunded moving costs I prepaid. I had to try (which I was unsucessful) to schedule a new move. I was unable to move, unable to leave the state to start my new job on time!
Reviewed Feb. 22, 2011
My wife and I recently moved from Central Texas to Southern California. We decided that since we have three small children, we would hire a professional moving team rather than use a Uhaul and move ourselves. I found a form on a website that said that if I filled it out, I would quickly receive quotes from at least 6 different moving companies. I actually ended up with quotes from about 20 moving companies. That was fine. I was happy to have so many to choose from. One of these companies was Condor Moving Systems.
I spoke with Mario at Condor Moving Systems. He outlined to me what his company had to offer and gave me an estimate of roughly $3532.42 for the move and additional insurance. He also said that when the moving truck arrived, they would have paperwork for me to fill out to receive a $500 gas card. The estimate he gave me, the services they offered, and the $500 gas card appealed to me. I asked him how long it would take my belongings to get to my new house after being picked up at my old house. Mario told me that it would take between 3-10 days but that he'd never seen it take 10 days before.
I specifically told Mario that I had heard that some moving companies will ferry their customer's belongings to a facility where they will be loaded onto another truck to be taken to their destination. I did not want my belongings to be switched from truck to truck. Mario told me that they don't ferry and that the 18 wheeler that showed up at my door would be the same truck that would carry my belongings to California. I continued calling moving companies and getting estimates but I kept Condor Moving Systems in my mind as a good option.
Finally, after comparing what all of the different moving companies had to offer and calling and re-calling companies, I decided to go with Condor Moving Systems. That decision has proven to be the worst one I've made all year. The moving truck arrived around lunchtime on the day of our move, 11/16. We were fine with the time it arrived at but what bothered us was the size of the truck. Mario had specifically asked us if they would be able to park an 18 wheeler outside of our house. I said, "Yes." That question led me to believe that an 18 wheeler would be showing up at my door. We were shocked when a 26 foot truck showed up at our door. We realized immediately (and later had our realization confirmed by the leader of the moving crew) that this would not be the truck that would be carrying our belongings to California. This truck would ferry our belongings to another facility where they would be unloaded and then reloaded onto the 18 wheeler heading out to California.
We were never told that this would happen. I wouldn't have agreed to having my belongings switched from truck to truck. We were in a pinch at that point because we had to be out of the house that day and in California within 3 days. We reluctantly agreed to let the moving crew load up our belongings. The leader of the moving crew was named Mario (not to be confused with the salesperson named Mario). Mario and his crew have so far been the only people at Condor Moving Systems to follow through on their promises. I was skeptical but Mario said that he and his crew could get all of our belongings into the back of the truck. He mostly did.
At one point, he realized that we were running out of room and I had to pick through some items and determine which ones had to be left behind. Mario and his crew were professional and extremely good at their job. Mario handed me many pieces of paperwork while his crew was loading. Two of the items really bother me. The first item was the paperwork for the gas card. I'll speak more on this later. The second item was the contract. Many of my upcoming complaints, I am sure the company can refute with the it's in the contract excuse. However presenting the contract to the customer to read and sign during the actual move is bad form. I admittedly didn't read the contract as closely as I should have; I had a move in progress. Mario told me that the next day, I would hear from the dispatcher.
I heard from Rhonda, the dispatcher, the next day and she gave me shocking news. She told me that they would not have my belongings loaded on the truck and on the road until Monday, 11/22/2010. I was shocked and angry at the news. I asked her why it was going to take so long to get the truck on the road. She reminded me that legally they have 10 days from my first available date to deliver my belongings. As listed on the contract, my first available date was 11/17. I gave them that date because I thought that the truck would leave straight from my house in Texas and that we would have to race it to California. I thought we'd be on the road simultaneously. If I'd known that Condor Moving Systems wasn't intending to hit the road until AFTER the first available date, I would have given them 11/16 as my first available date and FLOWN out to California.
My family and I arrived at our new house in California on 11/20. I called Condor Moving Systems on 11/22 to verify that my belongings were on the road. Rhonda told me that they are still waiting for the truck that will be carrying my belongings to California to arrive. She said it would be another day or two. I was concerned and told Rhonda, "But you legally have ten days to get my belongings to me. 11/26 is the tenth day." At that point, Rhonda dropped another bomb on me. She told me that they had 10 BUSINESS days. Not once did anybody mention the term BUSINESS days. I'm a lay person. I have no idea how the moving industry works. All I know is that I see 18 wheelers on the road every day of the week. How am I supposed to know that Condor's trucks take the weekend off?
I called Condor Moving Systems nearly every day to check on the status of the truck. Every day I got a different estimate on when our belongings would be put on the truck for California. After several days, Rhonda told us that Condor Moving Systems would be sending our belongings on an 18 wheeler all to themselves. Our belongings wouldn't have to share the 18 wheeler with anybody else's belongings. Although I was thankful to hear that, it didn't change the fact that my wife and I and our three young daughters (6 years old, 4 years old, and 6 months old) were sleeping on borrowed air mattresses, with borrowed sleeping bags, and sitting on borrowed lawn chairs. We had no furniture, no toys for the children, not much of anything. The only thing we had an abundance of was time and frustration.
I called Condor Moving Systems on Friday, 11/26, and Rhonda told me that they have a truck coming in and that it would arrive on Monday, 11/29, pick up our belongings and leave on Monday, 11/29. I called Condor Moving Systems on Monday, 11/29, and Rhonda told me that there was a delay but that the truck would definitely arrive the next day, 11/30 and definitely leave that same day to bring our belongings out to California. I called Condor Moving Systems on Tuesday, 11/30. This time a different woman answered the phone. I asked her if our belongings were still on schedule to go out that day (11/30). She said, "No."
I, understandably, got an upset tone to my voice as I demanded to know why. She said, "I'm just an account, sir, but we legally have ten days to deliver your belongings." I became really angry and told her to have Rhonda call me back. After waiting over an hour, I called Condor Moving Systems back and spoke with Rhonda. I asked her for a status on my belongings. She said the truck will be here tomorrow. I said, "And it will be leaving tomorrow with my belongings?" She said, "Yes." I asked her why the account that answered the phone before said that my belonging would not be leaving tomorrow. Rhonda said, "Hold on a minute. Let me call dispatch." When Rhonda got back on the line, she said that there was a problem with the truck. A replacement truck would arrive on Friday, 12/3 and would leave with my belongings for California the same day.
Rhonda then recommended that I hold on to all of my receipts (including the one I receive after my belongings arrive) because Condor Moving Systems will reimburse me $15 a day for every day my belongings are late. I was so angry and offended that Condor Moving Systems thinks that $15 a day is fair recompense for all of the trouble they have caused us that it took me a moment to find words to say. Noticing my delay in speaking, Rhonda said, "Some customers have complained that $15 a day isn't much, but it's better than nothing, right?"
I said goodbye to Rhonda but before I hung up I asked for her last name. She asked why. I told her that I am drafting a document detailing my experiences with Condor Moving Systems and that I need her name for it. She said that I could have it as long as I don't put her last name on the internet. I told her that I would not put her last name on the internet. My intent is to send this document directly to the BBB, the state authorities, the ICC, Household Carriers Bureau, DOT (both Federal and State), and to other regulating bodies in the moving industry. I plan on posting this document on the internet, as well, but I will remove Rhonda's last name when I do.
At this point, I stopped dealing with Rhonda . I would only deal with the owner of the company. The owner of the company, a Mr. Amit ***, initially was very helpful but it became quickly clear that that he was lying to us just like everybody else in his company. On 12/2, I spoke with Amit *** and he told me that the truck with our belongings would be leaving that day. It had to drop off one person's belongings in NM and then would come to us. On 12/3, I called Mr. *** and he told me that the driver was in NM and would drop off the other people's belongings that day and then continue on to California.
We got a call in the evening of 12/5 from the driver of the truck. He said that he would be at our house in the morning of the next day. He arrived on 12/6 in the morning. As he was unloading our belongings, he turned to me and said, "You're not going to believe when I left Texas." I asked him when. He said that he'd left Texas the afternoon before and had driven through the night to reach us. I said, "What about your delivery in NM yesterday?" He said, "There was no delivery in NM. Look at my truck. It's still full. Yours are the first things to be unloaded." Amit *** had lied to us just like his employees. He made up a drop off in NM that didn't exist. He even told us the truck was on the road with our belongings to California when it obviously was not.
Our belongings were picked up on 11/6 and finally arrived on 12/6. Condor Moving Systems had our belongings for 20 days before finally delivering them to our new house in California. Shortly after delivery, we noticed that several of our belongings showed up damaged. Including two end tables and a desk. Mr. *** offered to assist us in getting these items repaired but after the experience we'd had with he and his company, we didn't trust him to make good on his offer. Shortly after that, we also noticed damage to my tool chest, our fine silver, and miscellaneous other items.
Lastly, let me address my issues with the $500 gas card. A few days ago, I looked at the paperwork for the $500 gas card and realized that it was not what Condor Moving Systems alleged it to be. The paperwork made it clear that I was signing up for a promotion to receive $250 worth of gas and $250 worth of groceries. I was fine with that; whether I spend my money on food or gas, it still comes out of my pocket. What I have a problem with is that it costs $36 to register for the program, $18 for the groceries and $18 for the gas. That means that instead of the $500 of gas that Mario promised me, I get $464 of gas and groceries. I lose $36.
If Condor Moving Systems had dealt openly and fairly with me from the beginning, I wouldn't even have bothered being angry over losing the $36. I would have shrugged it off. But this is just characteristic of how deceptively this company does business. That is my main complaint with Condor Moving Systems. Yes, I am very upset that it took so long for my belongings to arrive but I am mostly upset about their deceptive business practices. They're the professionals, I'm the layperson. They need to explain things to me better up front and not focus only on getting the sale.
1. If you ferry your customers belongings in a smaller truck to a facility where they get picked up by a bigger truck, then say that. When you say, "Can an 18 wheeler fit in front of your house? Is it legal for us to bring one to your house?" You make the customer think that an 18 wheeler will be arriving at their door. Your customers expect that if their belongings are picked up in an 18 wheeler, the driver will be hitting the road for their new residence right after pick up. If the customer thinks that the 18 wheeler will be hitting the road for the new residence immediately after pick up, then you are giving your customer a false understanding of how soon their belongings will be delivered.
2. Business Days! Use that term. If you expect to deliver a customer's belongings within 3 to 10 business days, then say 3 to 10 business days. Don't say 3 to 10 days. It might not seem that way to you but to the person sitting in an empty house waiting for their belongings, there is a huge difference between days and business days.
3. Honesty If they had honestly and proactively dealing with the problems caused by their company, this would have kept this situation from getting to where we are now.
Reviewed May 25, 2010
In a nutshell, it appears that it will take approximately one month for the moving truck to make its delivery. Way beyond what I was told by Mario. My items were picked-up on 5/11/2010. I called for a follow-up on 5/18. I spoke with Rhonda. She informed me that the truck will begin its transit Friday, 5/21. It has not even left TX ten days post pick-up, but I tried to understand. I call 5/25 to see when I might expect delivery hoping that it would be prior or around Memorial Day weekend. Guess what? Rhona informs me that my stuff will be in transit tomorrow, 5/26, or the next day, 5/27. It has not left TX. This is unbelievable. Both Mario, the sales consultant, and Rhonda (title unknown) can spin better than a lobbyist for an oil company. 3 weeks at a minimum with limited clothes, no bed, no furniture except the camping chairs I had to purchase, no plates, bowls or silverware.
Do not use Condor Moving Systems. Even if you can afford the delay in delivery or the constant cost increases that get added (yes, they will nickel and dime you, too). Do not give them the satisfaction of your business. Not deserved. I feel like my belongings are being held hostage. If I could afford a different company to go over to Condor Moving systems to get my stuff, I would. The consequences are additional cost for purchase of temporary bed, bowls, plates, chairs and laundry mat. The unbelievable inconvenience for not having my belongings cannot be expressed in words. Just imagine not having your bed, furniture, washer/dryer, fridge, a selection of clothes for what has been 2 weeks and appears to be a month.
Reviewed Sept. 1, 2009
I hired Condor because I was moving to Pipe Creek, TX (Hill Country) and booked with Mario **. I have his email stating they knew the Hill area and no one else would and they would send a big truck. He said they would provide me a shuttle at no extra cost as well as full replacement insurance.
On the day of pickup, it was a Chicago company that showed up. The guys showed the paperwork from Condor and said they were just holding it (in Chicago) for pickup. They did the pickup based on their paperwork. At the end of pickup, my new iPhone went missing. I had taken it into a 2nd bedroom calling my husband for tools (they didn’t bring any) because I could not find an allen wrench so he told me to check front hall closet and he would try to get there but was far away. They took some sockets and screw drivers from the tool box and said they could do it so I went to see and then went to call my husband back and the phone was gone. That was at the end of the move and I tried to have them call it but it went right to voice mail. The phone was new and I didn’t realize that the only way for it to go to voice mail was to be shut off and shutting off is not one button...They said they called and reported it to the office but that they had to go and the office said to just go file a police report and they would handle it.
I went right over and filed the report then called both companies and was told you can only file one claim and I should wait to see how the move went. I continued to call and ask for someone to acknowledge the move was done by someone else who gave me no info on their company. He said best price was the way to go. I had him sign to witness condition of goods, all furniture are broken or damaged and some are non-repairable. I’m still being given the runaround on all issues. The fact that we had to shuttle everything ourselves even though I asked for weight (that never happened) and the condition of everything was unbelievable and we had 4 missing boxes I need answers and help for, I feel like this has been unlawful. I could have done PODS if I wanted to move everything in, but there was that promise if I signed up with Condor that this is what they would do…My son hurt his back but that probably won’t be covered. However, if the shuttle had been provided it wouldn’t have happened? I also paid $350 for help in moving up the hill.
Reviewed Aug. 11, 2009
I hired Condor Moving Systems to move my furniture from Las Vegas, NV to Round Rock, TX. Condor Moving Systems' driver picked up my furniture on 7/15/09. Prior to that, I spoke to Mario, the sales associate, about a quote of $1,391.00. He told me that when the driver weighted the load, my quote would not change. That was not true because the customer service rep informed me that my shipment was 326 pounds overweight, which is an extra charge of $300.
I arrived in Round Rock on 7/20/09. I called Condor Moving Systems that morning to let them know that I had arrived, and if they wanted to deliver my belongings earlier than the date on my packet, that was fine. Rhonda, the customer service rep, replied saying that she hadn't spoken with the driver yet, so she was going to call him and call me back. She didn't call me back. I called the next day and she said the same thing that she was going to locate the driver and call me back. I didn't hear from her again.
I called every day for a week. She couldn't tell me where my things were or when I could expect them. At this point, I began to feel like I was being blown off and they were playing games. As the weekend came and went, I continued to call and inquire about my furniture. On 7/28/09, I called to find out if Rhonda knew where my things were yet. She still had no information on my furniture. I told her that I was leaving for vacation. Therefore, they would need to hold my furniture in their storage until August 12th, which they offer free storage for 30 days. She then said that was going to be fine and she would make note of it.
Rhonda called the next day to tell me that the driver was trying to deliver on the 1st or 2nd. I explained to her that I was already scheduled to leave on the morning of the 1st and that wasn't going to work. I’d be available on August 12th. She called back on 7/31/09 to say that we needed to pay $565.25 over the phone by credit card, which we weren't supposed to pay the full balance until the furniture was delivered. So, we paid that. Then, she told us that instead owing $800 at the time of delivery, we now owed $1,174.00.
Every time I talk to Rhonda my price changes, it keeps going higher. The driver claimed he tried to deliver us but couldn't, so he had to take the shipment off the truck and put it back on, which the driver told the supervisor at Condor Moving Systems that he had spoken with me, which was a lie. I hadn't spoken with anyone from that company but Mario and Rhonda, since I have been here in Round Rock. I have asked to speak with a supervisor several times now, but every time I ask they are unavailable or in a meeting.
My husband spoke with someone that said they were a supervisor named Emitt on Friday, August 7. The supervisor told my husband that he would look into the matter and call him back that same day. It is now Tuesday, August 11, and he still has not called my husband back. The only thing we are asking is for Condor Moving Systems to waive the $300 redelivery fee. We have no problem paying the $800 that we owe. My quote went from $1391.00 to $2074.00. That is inaccurate. I just would like to get this situation resolved and have my furniture delivered. I have had to spend money on things like air mattresses and other supplies because they couldn't tell me when I could expect to get my beds and things.
Reviewed Aug. 3, 2009
I just wanted to express my extreme disappointment in Condor Moving Systems. Friday afternoon before my move, I received a call from the dispatcher informing me that the truck had broken down and that my move appointment was being canceled. I understand that unforeseen events can happen; however, I did not need a truck. I needed bodies to help me carry things from one apartment to another in the same building. I was unable to find another moving company on such short notice, was not able to move out of my apartment before my lease expired and have had to take time off of work to try and get the job done.
It is extremely unfortunate that a single girl who lives alone and was relying on a company's services was left with no assistance. I booked this company a month in advance so something such as this would not happen. It is definitely worth it to pay a little more money and actually work with a professional and reliable company.
Reviewed July 4, 2009
This happened in May 2009. We planned our move from NC to Houston,TX. I got quotes from many movers and finally chose these movers because they quoted a little less. I gave the inventory of all my household goods, and they gave me an estimate. Two times, I revised my inventory list and the estimate changed like wise. Their tactic talk got them the full packing also.
The driver came exactly same day as they promised and started packing our stuff. He finished it by evening, and when he was leaving, he told us that he used extra packing materials than estimated and it takes additional $500.we agreed with that. He said he had weighed the truck before coming to our home, and now, he loaded the truck with our goods and he was going to weigh it again and let us know our actual weight.
We never heard anything from him that day or the next day. After 2 days, the lady from Condor called and said our actual weight was 2600 pounds more than the estimated weight and the amount is going to go up $1500 or more. We were shocked about that weight. We went to different moving weight estimators and calculated our weight. We even added many pounds to each item, and it was not coming anywhere near the figure they told.
We got real suspicious about them and requested to reweigh our goods in our presence. They tried their best to discourage us from reweighing, like "We will reduce $100. That's all we can do. If you are reweighing, you will not get that $100 also. It is not going to reduce your weight. I am pretty sure when you reweigh, your weight will be more. If you decide to reweigh, you will have to come to the weighing station we tell you. Do you have anybody in Houston?" Things like that.
Thank goodness, we decided to reweigh our goods. Believe me, our actual weight was even less than the estimated weight. I still don't know from where they came up with that extra 2600 pounds. We demanded to see the previous weighing tickets. The figures on both tickets did not match at all. It was black and white cheating. They were trying to make a few extra bucks (over $1500), but it's no small money for me.
When I called them after this, they said it happens once in a while and that's why the reweighing system is in place. Just imagine if I got in to their talk and decided not to reweigh my stuff. I would have been in big loss now. So folks, don't believe them. Don't believe the weight they tell you. Always reweigh your goods. I think this is the way they make money.
Reviewed Feb. 2, 2009
Reviewed Oct. 22, 2008
We hire Condor Moving Systems, Inc. to do our move. The estimate for the move is $2,172.00. We were told that they will be picking up our household goods on October 14th. We were supposed to be notified if any additional charges or fees prior to the truck leaving the city of Austin, TX. That never happened. On October 15th, 2008, our credit card was charged $2,172.00 and we were emailed an invoice for an additional $1,599.74. When confronted about the charges, the sales consultant Charlie ** did not give us a complete answer, then later referred us to Brianna ** in Customer Service. When asked for the documentations we get no answer. We were promised a two day call prior to the arrival of our belongs, no phone call.
On October 18th we get a call from the driver saying he will be at the residence on October 19th between 9-11AM. He never showed up. When we sent an email out to the owner Nisrine Gal and her husband Amit Gal, we finally got to talk to her. I demanded documentations showing proof of how they were charging us for the additional $1,599.74. They demanded that we let them know what we want to do by 6PM on October 20th, 2008. I explained to them that I need to audit their paperwork in order to make a decision.
After a full audit, it was discovered that they use additional packing materials that they overcharged us and did not obtain our signed authorization even though on their document it shows that our signature is required. In addition, they had someone signed on OUR behalf to take inventory and pack our household goods when things have already been packed in the box. In addition, they double billed us for things that we already paid like two boxes for bed mattress for which we already paid in the $2,172.00 amount. In addition, we discovered that the weight certificate of the trucks show that the truck numbers did not match. The truck weighed before without our belongs and the truck weighed after supposedly without belongs did not match. This is COMPLETE FRAUD. They now have placed our things in storage and will not deliver our things without payment.
I have reported them to FMCSA and the State Attorney General for the state of Texas and State of California and I want a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against this company to make sure that they lose their license to operate and will never ever do business again in the state of Texas and in America. If anyone is interested in a class action lawsuit, I currently have all documentations showing that they have committed FRAUD. I have also called the local television station in Tarrant County and Arlington to investigate them. In addition, I'm working with my web master contacts to create a website to expose their company, their web-site and prevent them from doing any business with any other reputable moving company or any consumers ever again. They are messing with the WRONG GUY!!!
Reviewed Oct. 19, 2008
I wish I would have never have heard of Condor Moving System. They damaged many items that they packed. They did not set up and reassemble items as they said they would. The movers showed up unprepared and I had to provide utility knives and scissors to cut tape which was on the blankets. The knives and scissors left when they did too. The main crew left before the job was done leaving me to do the work with the truck driver. The driver was unable to read, so the labels were useless and the moving crew didn't speak any English. It was a disaster and too much work for me to do with them alone. I would NOT recommend using this company.
Their weight sheet is under weighted and lacks items to categorize in my opinion; therefore they said I owed them well over $1,000 more on delivery. Read the fine print too, what they say you are signing is not what you are signing, especially true when you are being misled by a Condor Moving subcontractor who can't read! After they wrapped the furniture in blankets, and before they moved it, they went through and listed all of the previous scratches on the furniture. That's a little backwards, don't you think? They basically said all my furniture was scratched (to cover their butts), which was fraud as about 50% of the items were less than 6 months old and brand new without any damage. I would not recommend using this company.
Almost every piece of furniture is damaged and they did a lot of damage to my wood floors, both packing and unpacking. I have a thick solid fruitwood chair leg that was broken in half - not even at the joint. That should tell you heaps. I would not recommend this company. Worst moving experience that I ever had. I haven't had time to add up the dollar amount of damage to my furniture, but my guess is about $2,000. Fortunately I have all of the receipts of my furniture. Regardless of who you use, take a ton of before and after photos. I wish I could attach photos to this site.
Reviewed Oct. 10, 2008
I purchased a Full Value Replacement Coverage from Condor. Goods were damaged and a box lost. They refuse to honor the Full Value Replacement on the damaged goods and lsto box. The additional insurance coverage was an added cost and clearly states that any damaged item will be either repaired or replaced in like kind and quality. Condor wants to reimburse based on the weight of the articles.
Reviewed Sept. 12, 2006
It is the same scenario- call and get many quotes and decide on Condor. No, they were not the lowest, but Mario the sales rep was extremely courteous and helpful. He did inform me of all charges including the extra packing materials. I did not realize, however, that they would refuse to take several items; ie bookshelves and other such items that were made of particle board stating they will break and I will still be charged for the weight. Apparently, the vibration of the truck breaks wood... okay then why are we packing in cardboard?
Anyway, they called on Friday Aug 25th and said they would have my belongings here by the following Monday. I rush my real estate agent to get the house I am leasing settled so I can have my stuff moved in by that date. I pay for the extra pro-rated days. Monday comes - no Condor. Tuesday comes- no Condor. I call the dispatcher - no answer, leave a message. Wednesday comes - no Condor. I call customer service. Apparently, my shipment is scheduled to arrive on either Sunday Sep 3 or Monday Sep 4th.
So now I have a house that I have paid extra days for expecting to be able to live there, but since my stuff did not arrive when they said it would I spend a week in a hotel - another $460 down the drain. Sunday comes and I get a call from Max saying he is heading this way and will be here Tuesday.. um what happened to Sunday or Monday. I tell him I was told it would be Monday at the latest. They do drive through the night to arrive by Monday which was good. They were mostly courteous.
My biggest complaint is the amount of stuff that mysteriously disappeared - coffee table, my bicycle (how do you lose a bicycle?!), several boxes. In addition, the top of my media tower is ripped off and I have several broken dishes.
Reviewed June 9, 2006
I recently went with Condor Moving Systems for an apartment move from Houston, TX to Shawnee, KS. Before chosing this moving company, I received quotes from five other moving companies. Condor came in a little cheaper than the other companies. I had planned for my things to be picked up on June 3rd and delivered by June 5th. The nice sales lady told me that to get my things by Monday June 5th, 2006, that I must have my move take place on May 31st because the truck left for Kansas on that Friday. She told me that there would be a little charge since I couldn't receive the items upon arrival, but that it was almost certain that they would arrive on time.
The movers showed up on time on the 31st. Everything was going fine until I received a call later that evening telling me that my furniture and boxes, which they had over estimated the amount of, actually weighed more that originally estimated. This I saw as odd since most of my things are made out of whicker, but what really got me thinking was the fact that they claim it took 50ft of bubble wrap and 5 rolls of tape to secure one lamp, one glass table top (3ftX2ft) and a television. They also claimed that to pack my framed pictures was an additional $250. My original estimate jumped up $500. I informed them that upon the arrival of my things, I would measure each and every inch of bubble wrap. They told me that if that was the case, a refund would be issued.
I was a bit upset that this was what was going on, but since I've never paid someone to move my things and I really didn't know how much it all weighed, I figured that this was okay. I really went with a moving company so that I wouldn't have to go through the stress of loading, driving and unloading my stuff. Now, a week and a half later, I'm a nervous wreck because my things are still in Dallas, TX and they can't tell me exactly when they're going to arrive. On Monday morning, I called Condor to ask why I hadn't received my items when they told me I would. They informed me that they never make a gurantee about when items will arrive. They implied that I was lying when I said that during my original quote, I was told that it would arrive on Monday. They also told me that I didn't understand the moving process and that I was over reacting.
I guess they're right, because with my limited understanding of the moving process, it was my belief that I paid them to pick up my items at point A and move them to point B where they would be unpacked within a reasonable time period. I guess I'm just stupid. The man I talked to told me that he would find out when the next truck was coming through Dallas and then call me back so that I would know when to expect my things. I never received a call from him. When I called on Wednesday to check on my move (remember, they have all my possessions and I have an empty apartment), I was again treated like an imbecile.
The man that had told me he would call me back was unavailable to talk to me, but when I told the lady that he said he would call me, she checked with him about the status of my move. I was informed that a truck would be coming through Dallas on Thursday morning and my things would most likely be loaded onto it. If there was not any room, it would then be loaded on the truck coming through on Friday morning and arrive at my apartment on Saturday. Granted, there's no gurantee. It is Friday now and I have not heard from them.
I'm breaking out in nervous hives everytime I think about this. I have guest arriving tomorrow to stay with me, and I have no furniture. I worked for an entire month to pay them to move my things, and they can't even tell me where they are or give me a time frame as to when to expect them. I am furious that they misrepresented themselves and then told me that I just don't understand the moving process. I'm appauled at their lack of customer service and their ability to hold my things for ransom. It seems to me that the more I complain, the longer it is taking them. As if they're trying to prove a point. I only wish that I had checked this site sooner so that I would not have gone with them.
Reviewed Feb. 6, 2006
We scheduled a small apartment move two weeks in advance for Saturday, Feb. 4, 2006 as close as possible to 11:00 am. We did this far enough in advance to enable them to hit the target time as close as possible, being aware that moving times and duration are not exact. We took bids from three other movers and decided on this company because of the lovely lady saleswoman. The prices were within dollars of each other and she guaranteed they could deliver on their promises.
The day before the move was scheduled , the dispatcher called and not only tried to delay the move until that evening, but tried to ramrod us into moving the following day - Sunday. It became a nightmare after that. On the day of the move, the dispatcher not only did not schedule us until four hours late but did not have the courtesy to call, as he indicated he would. Then the three workers tried to hold us up for more monies. Four of our party jumped in to help them move in the time they had alloted... then when we did get the few items moved,they tried to intimidate us, both verbally and physically, to give them more money. We actually had to suggest calling the police before they would leave. All in all a most unprofessional nightmare.
Since our people did the primary carrying, only one box of dishes was dropped by one of the movers resulting in several broken dishes.
Reviewed Jan. 4, 2006
I hired Condor Moving Systems on 10/07/2005 to move furniture and items from my house to an apartment. In doing so, Condor Moving System's employee picked up my cedar chest incorrectly and damaged the cedar chest. I filed a claim with Condor on 10/27/2005 and filled out Condor's claim forms and provided Condor with photos of the damaged cedar chest per their request.
On 12/07/2005, Condor Moving company wrongfully denied my claim. I then responded to Condor in writing on 12/27/2005 pointing out their wrongful denial of my claim and copied the Better Business Bureau on my letter. Then on 12/30/2005, I received a call from an employee of Condor (I failed to write down his name) advising that if I would withdraw my complaint with the BBB that he would pay for the damages to my cedar chest in the amount of 30.00 but would round it up to 100.00 but only if I would withdraw my complaint from the BBB. I explained to the employee that I would advise the BBB that the matter was resolved when I received the 100.00. The employee of Condor then stated that if I did not withdraw my complaint from the BBB on 12/30/2005 that he would only pay 30.00 for the damage as required by law. He however has not provided any law, weighed or inspected the cedar chest to determine that amount of damage done to the cedar chest. He then advised that he would not discuss this matter with me further as I would not withdraw my complaint from the BBB.
As a consumer, I am appalled at the business practices of Condor Moving and believe that their tactics are bribery and extortion of a consumer. I would appreciate you checking into the business practices of Condor Moving and take whatever action you can to penalize Condor Moving System's for bribery and extortion of a consumer.
Reviewed July 30, 2004
I hired condor moving systems to move me from Waco, TX to Vallejo, CA. I was originally quoted 1,500 by this company based on their quote list of my things. This was TOTAL COST... all inclusive... complete moving door to door.. i was told. I paid 800 before the move. After my stuff was loaded onto the truck, and in Dallas, they called me back and said that the total remaining cost on top of the 800 already paid was 2,000 dollars MORE as my stuff weighed more than the original quote they gave me and said supplies were extra!!! So now my total cost for the move was 2,800 and they held all of my furniture for ransom in Dallas.
To justify this raise in price, they charged me twice the quoted price for every pound over THEIR original quote!!! Also, they would have charged more if most everything of mine had not already been pre-boxed@ 10-15 dollars per box. I paid 200 extra to box mattresses, some other pictures, and a mirror. They also charged extra for moving tape they used to wrap my items!!!?! Cutting my losses, I paid the remaining balance of 2,000 on credit card. So I have paid Condor Moving Syatems 2,800 at this point.
When I get to Vallejo, the movers insist that I would have to pay an extra 600 dollars if a full-sized 18-wheeler can not get to my house... The mover was contracted by Condor, not a Condor mover as they promised-- and this mover tried repeatedly to insist that his truck could not get to my house. After fighting with the mover, he finally backed the truck up to my house. Then, he insisted that I pay him an extra amount of 200 dollars because it was a 'long walk' before he unloaded my stuff from the truck. It was not longer than the 'acceptable distance' of 150 feet as listed on the contract. Again, I cut my losses and paid up, as they were holding all my personal belongings... priceless to me... So now the total cost was 3,000 dollars.
After I start unloading boxes and unwrapping furniture, a 400 dollar chair is broken! Valued at only 60 cents per pound, this chair is insured for only about 150 dollars. I file a claim for this 150. The claim is returned as 0 dollars, as they tell me that this chair was already broken before delivery, which it was not. I contact the claims office, and am told it is 'being reviewed'. One month later I call back repeatedly during business hours... and no answer.
Reviewed July 26, 2004
My wife called several (8 or so) moving companies in the Dallas/Fort Worth area for quotes. Randy at Condor figured up their quote and told her that it would be 337.50 to do the local move. Randy told her that the quote was based on the number of items that we needed moved. Randy emailed her a copy of the quote. My wife noticed an item on the quote that had a price per hour ($75/hr). She immediately called Randy back to find out if the billing is by the hour or by the piece. He said that he didn't know why the quoting software even puts the time and price per hour on the quote, because that is not how they bill their customers, they bill by the piece. He assured her that the billing would be by the piece and the time spent transporting the contents. He explicitly stated that the total price for the move would not be more than $337.50. My wife restated what he just said and he once again said that the move would not be more than $337.50.
The movers show up on the day of the move. Briefly, the driver goes over the contract. He says and here you see that the billing is seventy-five dollars per hour ... I stop him and explain that Randy had told my wife that billing was by the piece and that it would be no more than $337.50. He states that he has no idea what I'm talking about, and that it will be billed by the hour. At this point I see the bait and switch occuring, but what am I to do? I have to get out of this apartment, and I will not be able to get another mover in time, which is exactly what they are counting on.
They start loading the truck as I go and start reading the contract. I sign the contract and the addendiums that state they can refuse to unload the truck if I don't pay... What choice do I have? After they get about 3/4 of the truck loaded, my wife gets home. I explain everything that happened to her. She gets pretty mad, which I can understand. She gets on the phone and calls the company, which is closed. There is a message on their answering service that gives a number in case of emergencies. She calls the number and talks to the owner. She tells him that she does not like how they are running their business and that she is not paying more than 337.50. He acts like he has no idea what she is talking about. He tells my wife that they can unload the truck back into the apartment if we wanted, but that I would have to help.
Reviewed July 16, 2004
We have been plaiing a move from Dallas, Texas to Thomaston, Maine for about 4 months. Basically we just needed our bedroom set moved so when we were looking for movers we decided to go with a trucking company that would move several families in the same shipment, thus providing us a cost efficient way to move. We contacted several companies and finally settled on Condor moving systems. The associate, Mario sent me a contract which listed all of the items in detail of which were to be moved as well as the cost of the move and the agreed upon addresses of departure and arrival. I signed the contract and sent it in along with a $100.00 deposit. Condor moving systems cashed my check about 2 months ago with no problems.
The total cost of the move was agreed at $1,100. I kept in contact with Mario to make sure that the dates were still firm. The last time he had e-mailed me was on the 10th of July 2004 to ensure me that our move was to continue as scheduled on July 28th 2004. On July 13th 2004 I recieved a call from a man who represented himself as the manager of the company. He stated that they could move our stuff but that Mario had mis-quoted us and that the actual price would be $2,200. Rather than the previous price we had agreed on. This was double our agreed price. The only response I got was that at least they were nice enough to tell me ahead of time about the price change. Companies that conduct business like this are completely unethical.
Due to this news just two weeks before our move we have been put in a financial bind. We have already given our notice to our apartment and we are due to leave by the 30th, we have both also given our two week notice with our current employers. We are now considering taking a loss on our furniture for pawn. We are unable to find any movers who can move us at a reasonable price because we were informed so late that we had no time to make other affordable arrangements. If we had known even just two months ago when they cashed our deposit we would have been able to work something out, but informing us two weeks prior to the move had forced us to move at a much higher cost. We will be paying much more to hire another company than expected due to the companies lack of consideration and poor ethical standards.
Reviewed June 29, 2004
This company carried household goods from San Antonio, TX to Milwaukie, OR. I took the basic sxity cents/lb insurance coverage. They broke two large double-beveled mirrors, a cast-iron stove and an antique ceramic & steel gas stove. I have requested reimbursement at the $.60/lb level which is $216 - a cast iron stove is pretty heavy, and they have proferred a check for $6.00 for the stove, nothing for the other three items. The company has refused to pay even the minimum of the insurance that I accepted for this move.
I'm seeking reimbursement at the $.60/lb rate ($261) at which I contracted for insurance. All four items are totally unusable.
Reviewed May 10, 2004
I contacted Condor Moving Services to help facilitate my move from Dallas, TX to Boston, MA. I spoke with a gentleman named Mario who was very helpful and up was open and upfront about exactly what Condor could do to help me. I indicated that I needed my belongings from my one bedroom apartment moved one way to my new apartment in Boston. I told Mario that I wanted my belongings to be in Boston as close to May 1, 2004, as possible. Mario was very clear that Condor could not guarantee delivery with a one day window. However, Mario indicated that Condor would agree to deliver my belongings between a three day window of May 1-May 3, 2004. I agreed to this and this delivery window was put on my Job Order sent to me from Condor.
Mario indicated that Condor would need to schedule the loading of my belongings at least one week in advance. I told Mario that they could come any date that they needed. Condor eventually scheduled Friday, April 23, 2004 as my pick up and load date. I took off work for that date, and on the Thursday night before they were to come, they left a message that they would be at my apartment between 5-7pm (I thought it was an odd time, but I had no problem with it). At noon on Friday, April 23rd (pickup date), Max called me and asked three times if Condor could deliver my belongings in Boston earlier than May 1. I told him no, as I was driving to Boston and could not take occupancy to my new apartment prior to May 1. At the time, this was irrelevant to me, but later it became more clear as to why they were inquiring about an early delivery in Boston.
5pm came on the day that Condor had scheduled to pickup and load, no movers. Max called at 6:30pm and said that they were wrapping up another load and would be there shortly. Max called at 9:30pm indicating that they were on the way. By 11:45pm, still no Condor. I called Max myself and told him that they would have to come the following day. A midnight to 4am loading job seemed unreasonable to me. Call me crazy I guess.
The next day, Condor arrived at 12:30pm and loaded my belongings without incident. I asked the driver, Eddie, where he was having to drive across America on his way to Boston. He said Missouri, Wisconsin, NY, and then Boston. We discussed the 3 day window and he indicated that he would have my belongings in Boston as close to May 1 as possible. On Friday, April 30th, while driving from Dallas to Boston, Eddie (the driver) called me and indicated that his truck had broken down in NY and that he was not going to be able to deliver my belongings on May 1. I had no problem with that, but stressed that we had a three day window agreement and that I expected my belongings in Boston by Monday, May 3. On Sunday, May 2, I called Eddie myself to confirm the May 3 delivery. He indicated that my belongings would not be delivered until the end of the week. I told Eddie that this was unacceptable.
He then told me that the Bill of Lading indicated that the delivery date was flexible and that by law Condor had ten business days to deliver. I was furious and went back and read my Bill of Lading. Eddie was correct, in the delivery date box, they had written flex. I had been duped!
However, I went back further and reviewed my Rights and Responsibilities When you Move and on Page 9 it clearly states that once an agreement is reached, the mover is REQUIRED to enter those dates on the order for service and bill of lading. On Tuesday, May 4, I called Mario in the Texas headquarters, and explained the circumstances of the nightmare loading job that they never showed up for, and Condor's subsequent failure to deliver my belongings in the agreed upon three day window. Mario indicated that he would call the dispatcher and get back to me.
Mario never called me back, so I called him. He said he was on the other line and would call me back. Never did. After sleeping on the floor in my sleeping bag for a week in my empty apartment, my belongings were ultimately delivered on Friday, May 7, by one of Condor's affiliate moving companies located in New York, Key Moving Company. This company was very courteous and I asked them if they had delivered my belongings to Boston from NY for Condor on an emergency basis after the unreasonable delay. They indicated no, we were always coming up to Boston on Friday, May 7.
It is obvious that Condor initially wanted to deliver my belongings in Boston early, and when this was not possible (and not part of our agreement), they dumped my belongings off in NY and waited until one of their affiliates had a job in Boston. The reason I am even taking the step of wasting any more of my time with this issue is because when I chose Condor Moving, Mario stressed over and over again about how stellar Condor's record was with the Better Business Bureau, etc. I have checked the internet and, lo and behold, I found more complaints about Condor regarding similiar moving nightmares.
Reviewed Feb. 27, 2004
They called me the day before the scheduled move to cancel and reschedule. I would only recommend them if you feel ok with them canceling at the last minute. Call them... mabey they will show up when they said they would possibly not .. who knows ..
Condor Moving Systems Company Information
- Company Name:
- Condor
- Website:
- www.condormovingsystems.com
