Condor Moving Systems Reviews

They dropped the insert for my formal dining room table, they scratched furniture, and when unpacking boxes I found items broken. I suspect this was due to them placing large furniture items on the boxes. Because of limited space on the truck - they had to make 2 trips and were going to charge me for the second trip. I complained and spoke with a supervisor who waved the 2nd trip charge. I found out from a worker the reason for the other client’s furniture being placed on the truck was a favor to the owner.

I received a confirmation email from Maro ** order # ** - he was very professional when booking my move. Because of his professionalism and courtesy, I thought this would be an exceptional move experience, but in fact in turned into a nightmare. When I called the customer service rep, I was told at least they didn't cancel my move all together. That comment is insensitive and horrible customer service. I will never use this company again and will tell everyone about my experience.

We were shocked when a 26-foot truck showed up at our door. This truck would go and unload our belongings to another facility where they would be unloaded and then reloaded onto the 18-wheeler heading out to Oregon. We were never told that this would happen. We wouldn't have agreed to having our belongings switched from truck to truck. The guy that arrived with the small truck (and his crew) has so far been the only people at Condor Moving Systems to follow through on their promises. My fiancé called Condor Moving Systems nearly every day to check on the status of the truck because they would not call us with updates. Every day, she got a different ETA on when our belongings would be put on the truck for Oregon. After several days, we were told that Condor Moving Systems would be sending our belongings on an 18-wheeler all to themselves. Our belongings wouldn't have to share the 18-wheeler with anybody else's belongings.

A few days after pickup, we received a call from Condor stating that we owed them more money because our load weighed more than they had estimated. This left both of us scratching our heads. We had already given them a complete list of what they would be picking up. We even called them back several times to edit the list because we sold some things before we moved. We reviewed the list and respective weights prior to pickup and we quickly noticed that almost every item was logged as weighing more than it actually does. We were satisfied because that meant that we were covered because many of the items weighed nowhere near what they had estimated. This was good. It was determined by Condor that we should have about 80 boxes, aside from all the furniture and other items already on the roster. When it was all said and done, we ended up with about 136 boxes. We were told that this is where the extra weight came from and that Condor's shipping software has built in weight for items and box size.

What is an average box? Well, let’s go back to grade school for a simple refresher in mathematics: 136 boxes minus 80 boxes leaves 56 boxes. Take the amount we were overcharged (approximately $2,500) and divide by 56. This gives you a weight of about 46 pounds per box over. Having previously owned a swimming pool, I am all too familiar with what 50 pounds feels like because that is exactly what a canister of chlorine weighs. These boxes did not weigh 46 pounds each. Did we have other items? Of course, we did. In fact, we had a total of about 205 pieces total, 136 were boxes, and most of the rest was what they gave us an estimate for prior. There were other lightweight items as well. Such as plastic vanity waste baskets, two aluminum ladders, ice chest, etc. The majority of the weight was predetermined. Mario gave us a maximum monetary figure that we were told would be the absolute worst case scenario. This far exceeded that. It became clear that Condor was out to cheat us and having read other reviews about this company, our suspicions were validated.

It seems this bait and switch scam has been in practice for quite some time at Condor, all the way back to 2009 to be exact. The common denominator in almost every complaint is this scam. They are nice and friendly up front, give you a quote based on your inventory, and even give you a maximum amount as a worst case scenario. The scam comes in to play when they give you a lowball estimate to get you to commit and call after they have your goods stating that you owe more money because they lowballed the estimate to hook you. If there were just a few isolated claims, I could see where there may have been bad communication or a misunderstanding. However, there are a multitude (many, many) of complaints about this company all over the web and nearly all of them involve complaints about this scam. You also find out after the fact that your belongings are not insured if you pack them yourself.

We were told that we could be present during the weighing of the truck. What they do not tell you is that your belongings are on the same 53 trailer as the belongings of four other poor cheated souls in other locations. So, it is impossible to know what your section of the load weighs unless you unload the entire truck, leave and weigh it, and then come back and reload and go weigh again. The driver that delivered stated that he was not told to weigh the truck before coming to deliver. Since they arrived after dark, there was no place to take it to get it weighed. He also would not take a cashier's check. This after Nisrine stated very clearly that she called and told him to accept it. So, the driver refused to unload our belongings because it would get him in trouble with his boss, neither of which is employed by Condor. At this point, we were at our wit's end. We were so sick of having to continually re-live this ongoing nightmare with this company.

After about an hour of trying to reach someone at Condor, we finally just left a message. Jessie called back and asked to speak to the driver. Twenty minutes later, we were back on track. The driver insisted that Nisrine had not called him with instructions to take the check. Someone lied. The driver showed us his call history and guess what? There were no calls from any Arlington based numbers. The drivers also come unequipped. No tools, nothing. They wanted to borrow our tools to do their job. I told them they were out of luck because my tools were packed on the truck. After getting the truck unloaded and furniture assembled, the driver insisted that we sign off on the paperwork even though boxes were missing. He said if we did not, he would get in trouble with his boss. We signed it, but we also got a signed affidavit from him stating exactly what happened.

We mentioned in conversation to the driver what Condor had done to us in regard to the overweight boxes. He made the comment that our items were light in weight and weighed nowhere near 46 lbs. per unit. He also stated that he and his assistant were horrified as they witnessed the way in which Condor employees loaded the truck. They could not believe what they were seeing, throwing boxes and stacking light boxes under heavier boxes which led to a lot of our damage. Aside from the boxes, we were also missing a 20 foot extension ladder and a professional grade aluminum dolly that I used in my previous line of work. The drivers finally left our house at 2am exhausted, as were we.

When my fiancé contacted Condor about the missing items, she talked to Nisrine. Nisrine promised us reimbursement outside of their third party claim office for the ladder and dolly because of all the grief we had been through at this point. As of today, all we have received is the money for the ladder. I talked to a guy at Condor about the dolly. He was very condescending and insinuated that I had picked out this particular dolly because it was one of the upper end dollies and was more expensive. He said it seemed odd that I picked out such an expensive one to be reimbursed for. I could not believe the audacity in this statement! I told him that the dolly costs less now than when I bought it years ago.

So, if my intention was to cheat him, I would have claimed what I paid for it, not what it is selling for now. He tried to lowball me citing depreciation issues. What does depreciation have to do with them losing my dolly? He also stated that he might get in trouble if he paid me the full amount. He stated that he would look into it further and call me back. Two weeks passed and you know what? No one ever called, as has become expected at this point. I emailed Nisrine because no one wants to talk and asked her about the status of my dolly because the guy never called me back. She emailed back and stated she would have to inquire about it.

After not hearing back from her, I emailed again the next day to which she replied, "After speaking with Emit, you need to go ahead and send a claim for the dolly with items that your fiancé had said she was filing a claim for." I could not believe what I was reading! We do not have a problem filing a claim for all the items that your people damaged or even the items in the boxes that are still missing. Our problem is that this woman promised us reimbursement and has failed to follow through. So, yet another empty promise. You know what? You should not have misplaced it! While we are on the subject, how does someone misplace a 20-foot extension ladder and a 4-foot tall aluminum dolly? In retrospect, after reading a multitude of negative reviews, it seems that my ladder was not the first ladder that got misplaced. Bicycles seem to mysteriously disappear with this company as well. I strongly urge any prospective customers to read reviews for Condor Moving Systems before committing. It is absolutely appalling reading about the horrible things this company has done to its customers!

I really wish we had done better research and had seen all the horrible reviews before we committed to use this company. We both regret using them now. There is a reason why this company does not have a BBB (Better Business Bureau) logo on their website. They have not earned it. I urge you to go and read the complaints there. Their stories are nearly identical to ours.

The gentleman who was the driver at the time of delivery was not a Condor employee and worked for All You Can Move, which was who the truck was rented to as I took pictures of the truck and DOT registration. They showed up to deliver our belongings 7 hours late. I was contacted by them to say between 9 am and 12 pm and they showed up at 7 pm due to mechanical problems with the rented truck. They did keep us informed during this time delay, though. When they finally did arrive, the truck did not have a power lift as promised and some of our boxes were crushed and mangled along with plastic tubs busted out from excess weight applied on them. One chair had a leg completely broken off and there were rollers missing off of others. Computer hutch has a missing bottom railing and will not be set level. Workout equipment plastic covers were cracked or missing and there were other various nicks and dings on the furniture. The bottom line is that the items were not taken care of.

Four of our boxes did not even make it and were lost. When these boxes were not accounted for after checking off each box unloaded from the inventory sheet they provided and made while loading up the 18-wheeler, the reply from the driver/person in charge was, "Well, only losing 4 out of 182 isn't too bad, is it?" The contract was to deliver all of our belongings, not some of them. The driver wanted us to sign off on the paperwork, even though the four boxes were nowhere to be found. We refused. The person in charge at corporate, Amit **, is condescending and said, “Everything that occurs is your fault because you did not call him and not because his crew/team did not perform well.” They even mislead the moving team they hired in NV and told them the load weighed less than it did. What was supposed to be a positive experience was made into a nightmare by Condor. The team of Amit, Jesse and JR at Condor, is professional at lying, deceiving and misleading, but surely not at moving.

The team was courteous and competent. My things arrived at the destination "on time," the exact day they were scheduled and again the team (a different team) unloaded and was most courteous and competent. The move went off without a hitch. The price was as promised. The communication was excellent and the things arrived unbroken. I have never give an internet review before but after seeing many negative things, I am happy to report a positive experience. On a scale of 1-10, I give Condor a 10!

I spoke with Mario at Condor Moving Systems. He outlined to me what his company had to offer and gave me an estimate of roughly $3532.42 for the move and additional insurance. He also said that when the moving truck arrived, they would have paperwork for me to fill out to receive a $500 gas card. The estimate he gave me, the services they offered, and the $500 gas card appealed to me. I asked him how long it would take my belongings to get to my new house after being picked up at my old house. Mario told me that it would take between 3-10 days but that he'd never seen it take 10 days before.

I specifically told Mario that I had heard that some moving companies will ferry their customer's belongings to a facility where they will be loaded onto another truck to be taken to their destination. I did not want my belongings to be switched from truck to truck. Mario told me that they don't ferry and that the 18 wheeler that showed up at my door would be the same truck that would carry my belongings to California. I continued calling moving companies and getting estimates but I kept Condor Moving Systems in my mind as a good option.

Finally, after comparing what all of the different moving companies had to offer and calling and re-calling companies, I decided to go with Condor Moving Systems. That decision has proven to be the worst one I've made all year. The moving truck arrived around lunchtime on the day of our move, 11/16. We were fine with the time it arrived at but what bothered us was the size of the truck. Mario had specifically asked us if they would be able to park an 18 wheeler outside of our house. I said, "Yes." That question led me to believe that an 18 wheeler would be showing up at my door. We were shocked when a 26 foot truck showed up at our door. We realized immediately (and later had our realization confirmed by the leader of the moving crew) that this would not be the truck that would be carrying our belongings to California. This truck would ferry our belongings to another facility where they would be unloaded and then reloaded onto the 18 wheeler heading out to California.

We were never told that this would happen. I wouldn't have agreed to having my belongings switched from truck to truck. We were in a pinch at that point because we had to be out of the house that day and in California within 3 days. We reluctantly agreed to let the moving crew load up our belongings. The leader of the moving crew was named Mario (not to be confused with the salesperson named Mario). Mario and his crew have so far been the only people at Condor Moving Systems to follow through on their promises. I was skeptical but Mario said that he and his crew could get all of our belongings into the back of the truck. He mostly did.

At one point, he realized that we were running out of room and I had to pick through some items and determine which ones had to be left behind. Mario and his crew were professional and extremely good at their job. Mario handed me many pieces of paperwork while his crew was loading. Two of the items really bother me. The first item was the paperwork for the gas card. I'll speak more on this later. The second item was the contract. Many of my upcoming complaints, I am sure the company can refute with the it's in the contract excuse. However presenting the contract to the customer to read and sign during the actual move is bad form. I admittedly didn't read the contract as closely as I should have; I had a move in progress. Mario told me that the next day, I would hear from the dispatcher.

I heard from Rhonda, the dispatcher, the next day and she gave me shocking news. She told me that they would not have my belongings loaded on the truck and on the road until Monday, 11/22/2010. I was shocked and angry at the news. I asked her why it was going to take so long to get the truck on the road. She reminded me that legally they have 10 days from my first available date to deliver my belongings. As listed on the contract, my first available date was 11/17. I gave them that date because I thought that the truck would leave straight from my house in Texas and that we would have to race it to California. I thought we'd be on the road simultaneously. If I'd known that Condor Moving Systems wasn't intending to hit the road until AFTER the first available date, I would have given them 11/16 as my first available date and FLOWN out to California.

My family and I arrived at our new house in California on 11/20. I called Condor Moving Systems on 11/22 to verify that my belongings were on the road. Rhonda told me that they are still waiting for the truck that will be carrying my belongings to California to arrive. She said it would be another day or two. I was concerned and told Rhonda, "But you legally have ten days to get my belongings to me. 11/26 is the tenth day." At that point, Rhonda dropped another bomb on me. She told me that they had 10 BUSINESS days. Not once did anybody mention the term BUSINESS days. I'm a lay person. I have no idea how the moving industry works. All I know is that I see 18 wheelers on the road every day of the week. How am I supposed to know that Condor's trucks take the weekend off?

I called Condor Moving Systems nearly every day to check on the status of the truck. Every day I got a different estimate on when our belongings would be put on the truck for California. After several days, Rhonda told us that Condor Moving Systems would be sending our belongings on an 18 wheeler all to themselves. Our belongings wouldn't have to share the 18 wheeler with anybody else's belongings. Although I was thankful to hear that, it didn't change the fact that my wife and I and our three young daughters (6 years old, 4 years old, and 6 months old) were sleeping on borrowed air mattresses, with borrowed sleeping bags, and sitting on borrowed lawn chairs. We had no furniture, no toys for the children, not much of anything. The only thing we had an abundance of was time and frustration.

I called Condor Moving Systems on Friday, 11/26, and Rhonda told me that they have a truck coming in and that it would arrive on Monday, 11/29, pick up our belongings and leave on Monday, 11/29. I called Condor Moving Systems on Monday, 11/29, and Rhonda told me that there was a delay but that the truck would definitely arrive the next day, 11/30 and definitely leave that same day to bring our belongings out to California. I called Condor Moving Systems on Tuesday, 11/30. This time a different woman answered the phone. I asked her if our belongings were still on schedule to go out that day (11/30). She said, "No."

I, understandably, got an upset tone to my voice as I demanded to know why. She said, "I'm just an account, sir, but we legally have ten days to deliver your belongings." I became really angry and told her to have Rhonda call me back. After waiting over an hour, I called Condor Moving Systems back and spoke with Rhonda. I asked her for a status on my belongings. She said the truck will be here tomorrow. I said, "And it will be leaving tomorrow with my belongings?" She said, "Yes." I asked her why the account that answered the phone before said that my belonging would not be leaving tomorrow. Rhonda said, "Hold on a minute. Let me call dispatch." When Rhonda got back on the line, she said that there was a problem with the truck. A replacement truck would arrive on Friday, 12/3 and would leave with my belongings for California the same day.

Rhonda then recommended that I hold on to all of my receipts (including the one I receive after my belongings arrive) because Condor Moving Systems will reimburse me $15 a day for every day my belongings are late. I was so angry and offended that Condor Moving Systems thinks that $15 a day is fair recompense for all of the trouble they have caused us that it took me a moment to find words to say. Noticing my delay in speaking, Rhonda said, "Some customers have complained that $15 a day isn't much, but it's better than nothing, right?"

I said goodbye to Rhonda but before I hung up I asked for her last name. She asked why. I told her that I am drafting a document detailing my experiences with Condor Moving Systems and that I need her name for it. She said that I could have it as long as I don't put her last name on the internet. I told her that I would not put her last name on the internet. My intent is to send this document directly to the BBB, the state authorities, the ICC, Household Carriers Bureau, DOT (both Federal and State), and to other regulating bodies in the moving industry. I plan on posting this document on the internet, as well, but I will remove Rhonda's last name when I do.

At this point, I stopped dealing with Rhonda . I would only deal with the owner of the company. The owner of the company, a Mr. Amit ***, initially was very helpful but it became quickly clear that that he was lying to us just like everybody else in his company. On 12/2, I spoke with Amit *** and he told me that the truck with our belongings would be leaving that day. It had to drop off one person's belongings in NM and then would come to us. On 12/3, I called Mr. *** and he told me that the driver was in NM and would drop off the other people's belongings that day and then continue on to California.

We got a call in the evening of 12/5 from the driver of the truck. He said that he would be at our house in the morning of the next day. He arrived on 12/6 in the morning. As he was unloading our belongings, he turned to me and said, "You're not going to believe when I left Texas." I asked him when. He said that he'd left Texas the afternoon before and had driven through the night to reach us. I said, "What about your delivery in NM yesterday?" He said, "There was no delivery in NM. Look at my truck. It's still full. Yours are the first things to be unloaded." Amit *** had lied to us just like his employees. He made up a drop off in NM that didn't exist. He even told us the truck was on the road with our belongings to California when it obviously was not.

Our belongings were picked up on 11/6 and finally arrived on 12/6. Condor Moving Systems had our belongings for 20 days before finally delivering them to our new house in California. Shortly after delivery, we noticed that several of our belongings showed up damaged. Including two end tables and a desk. Mr. *** offered to assist us in getting these items repaired but after the experience we'd had with he and his company, we didn't trust him to make good on his offer. Shortly after that, we also noticed damage to my tool chest, our fine silver, and miscellaneous other items.

Lastly, let me address my issues with the $500 gas card. A few days ago, I looked at the paperwork for the $500 gas card and realized that it was not what Condor Moving Systems alleged it to be. The paperwork made it clear that I was signing up for a promotion to receive $250 worth of gas and $250 worth of groceries. I was fine with that; whether I spend my money on food or gas, it still comes out of my pocket. What I have a problem with is that it costs $36 to register for the program, $18 for the groceries and $18 for the gas. That means that instead of the $500 of gas that Mario promised me, I get $464 of gas and groceries. I lose $36.

If Condor Moving Systems had dealt openly and fairly with me from the beginning, I wouldn't even have bothered being angry over losing the $36. I would have shrugged it off. But this is just characteristic of how deceptively this company does business. That is my main complaint with Condor Moving Systems. Yes, I am very upset that it took so long for my belongings to arrive but I am mostly upset about their deceptive business practices. They're the professionals, I'm the layperson. They need to explain things to me better up front and not focus only on getting the sale.

1. If you ferry your customers belongings in a smaller truck to a facility where they get picked up by a bigger truck, then say that. When you say, "Can an 18 wheeler fit in front of your house? Is it legal for us to bring one to your house?" You make the customer think that an 18 wheeler will be arriving at their door. Your customers expect that if their belongings are picked up in an 18 wheeler, the driver will be hitting the road for their new residence right after pick up. If the customer thinks that the 18 wheeler will be hitting the road for the new residence immediately after pick up, then you are giving your customer a false understanding of how soon their belongings will be delivered.

2. Business Days! Use that term. If you expect to deliver a customer's belongings within 3 to 10 business days, then say 3 to 10 business days. Don't say 3 to 10 days. It might not seem that way to you but to the person sitting in an empty house waiting for their belongings, there is a huge difference between days and business days.

3. Honesty If they had honestly and proactively dealing with the problems caused by their company, this would have kept this situation from getting to where we are now.

Do not use Condor Moving Systems. Even if you can afford the delay in delivery or the constant cost increases that get added (yes, they will nickel and dime you, too). Do not give them the satisfaction of your business. Not deserved. I feel like my belongings are being held hostage. If I could afford a different company to go over to Condor Moving systems to get my stuff, I would. The consequences are additional cost for purchase of temporary bed, bowls, plates, chairs and laundry mat. The unbelievable inconvenience for not having my belongings cannot be expressed in words. Just imagine not having your bed, furniture, washer/dryer, fridge, a selection of clothes for what has been 2 weeks and appears to be a month.

On the day of pickup, it was a Chicago company that showed up. The guys showed the paperwork from Condor and said they were just holding it (in Chicago) for pickup. They did the pickup based on their paperwork. At the end of pickup, my new iPhone went missing. I had taken it into a 2nd bedroom calling my husband for tools (they didn’t bring any) because I could not find an allen wrench so he told me to check front hall closet and he would try to get there but was far away. They took some sockets and screw drivers from the tool box and said they could do it so I went to see and then went to call my husband back and the phone was gone. That was at the end of the move and I tried to have them call it but it went right to voice mail. The phone was new and I didn’t realize that the only way for it to go to voice mail was to be shut off and shutting off is not one button...They said they called and reported it to the office but that they had to go and the office said to just go file a police report and they would handle it.

I went right over and filed the report then called both companies and was told you can only file one claim and I should wait to see how the move went. I continued to call and ask for someone to acknowledge the move was done by someone else who gave me no info on their company. He said best price was the way to go. I had him sign to witness condition of goods, all furniture are broken or damaged and some are non-repairable. I’m still being given the runaround on all issues. The fact that we had to shuttle everything ourselves even though I asked for weight (that never happened) and the condition of everything was unbelievable and we had 4 missing boxes I need answers and help for, I feel like this has been unlawful. I could have done PODS if I wanted to move everything in, but there was that promise if I signed up with Condor that this is what they would do…My son hurt his back but that probably won’t be covered. However, if the shuttle had been provided it wouldn’t have happened? I also paid $350 for help in moving up the hill.

I arrived in Round Rock on 7/20/09. I called Condor Moving Systems that morning to let them know that I had arrived, and if they wanted to deliver my belongings earlier than the date on my packet, that was fine. Rhonda, the customer service rep, replied saying that she hadn't spoken with the driver yet, so she was going to call him and call me back. She didn't call me back. I called the next day and she said the same thing that she was going to locate the driver and call me back. I didn't hear from her again.

I called every day for a week. She couldn't tell me where my things were or when I could expect them. At this point, I began to feel like I was being blown off and they were playing games. As the weekend came and went, I continued to call and inquire about my furniture. On 7/28/09, I called to find out if Rhonda knew where my things were yet. She still had no information on my furniture. I told her that I was leaving for vacation. Therefore, they would need to hold my furniture in their storage until August 12th, which they offer free storage for 30 days. She then said that was going to be fine and she would make note of it.

Rhonda called the next day to tell me that the driver was trying to deliver on the 1st or 2nd. I explained to her that I was already scheduled to leave on the morning of the 1st and that wasn't going to work. I’d be available on August 12th. She called back on 7/31/09 to say that we needed to pay $565.25 over the phone by credit card, which we weren't supposed to pay the full balance until the furniture was delivered. So, we paid that. Then, she told us that instead owing $800 at the time of delivery, we now owed $1,174.00.

Every time I talk to Rhonda my price changes, it keeps going higher. The driver claimed he tried to deliver us but couldn't, so he had to take the shipment off the truck and put it back on, which the driver told the supervisor at Condor Moving Systems that he had spoken with me, which was a lie. I hadn't spoken with anyone from that company but Mario and Rhonda, since I have been here in Round Rock. I have asked to speak with a supervisor several times now, but every time I ask they are unavailable or in a meeting.

My husband spoke with someone that said they were a supervisor named Emitt on Friday, August 7. The supervisor told my husband that he would look into the matter and call him back that same day. It is now Tuesday, August 11, and he still has not called my husband back. The only thing we are asking is for Condor Moving Systems to waive the $300 redelivery fee. We have no problem paying the $800 that we owe. My quote went from $1391.00 to $2074.00. That is inaccurate. I just would like to get this situation resolved and have my furniture delivered. I have had to spend money on things like air mattresses and other supplies because they couldn't tell me when I could expect to get my beds and things.

It is extremely unfortunate that a single girl who lives alone and was relying on a company's services was left with no assistance. I booked this company a month in advance so something such as this would not happen. It is definitely worth it to pay a little more money and actually work with a professional and reliable company.

The driver came exactly same day as they promised and started packing our stuff. He finished it by evening, and when he was leaving, he told us that he used extra packing materials than estimated and it takes additional $500.we agreed with that. He said he had weighed the truck before coming to our home, and now, he loaded the truck with our goods and he was going to weigh it again and let us know our actual weight.

We never heard anything from him that day or the next day. After 2 days, the lady from Condor called and said our actual weight was 2600 pounds more than the estimated weight and the amount is going to go up $1500 or more. We were shocked about that weight. We went to different moving weight estimators and calculated our weight. We even added many pounds to each item, and it was not coming anywhere near the figure they told.

We got real suspicious about them and requested to reweigh our goods in our presence. They tried their best to discourage us from reweighing, like "We will reduce $100. That's all we can do. If you are reweighing, you will not get that $100 also. It is not going to reduce your weight. I am pretty sure when you reweigh, your weight will be more. If you decide to reweigh, you will have to come to the weighing station we tell you. Do you have anybody in Houston?" Things like that.

Thank goodness, we decided to reweigh our goods. Believe me, our actual weight was even less than the estimated weight. I still don't know from where they came up with that extra 2600 pounds. We demanded to see the previous weighing tickets. The figures on both tickets did not match at all. It was black and white cheating. They were trying to make a few extra bucks (over $1500), but it's no small money for me.

When I called them after this, they said it happens once in a while and that's why the reweighing system is in place. Just imagine if I got in to their talk and decided not to reweigh my stuff. I would have been in big loss now. So folks, don't believe them. Don't believe the weight they tell you. Always reweigh your goods. I think this is the way they make money.

On October 18th we get a call from the driver saying he will be at the residence on October 19th between 9-11AM. He never showed up. When we sent an email out to the owner Nisrine Gal and her husband Amit Gal, we finally got to talk to her. I demanded documentations showing proof of how they were charging us for the additional $1,599.74. They demanded that we let them know what we want to do by 6PM on October 20th, 2008. I explained to them that I need to audit their paperwork in order to make a decision.

After a full audit, it was discovered that they use additional packing materials that they overcharged us and did not obtain our signed authorization even though on their document it shows that our signature is required. In addition, they had someone signed on OUR behalf to take inventory and pack our household goods when things have already been packed in the box. In addition, they double billed us for things that we already paid like two boxes for bed mattress for which we already paid in the $2,172.00 amount. In addition, we discovered that the weight certificate of the trucks show that the truck numbers did not match. The truck weighed before without our belongs and the truck weighed after supposedly without belongs did not match. This is COMPLETE FRAUD. They now have placed our things in storage and will not deliver our things without payment.

I have reported them to FMCSA and the State Attorney General for the state of Texas and State of California and I want a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against this company to make sure that they lose their license to operate and will never ever do business again in the state of Texas and in America. If anyone is interested in a class action lawsuit, I currently have all documentations showing that they have committed FRAUD. I have also called the local television station in Tarrant County and Arlington to investigate them. In addition, I'm working with my web master contacts to create a website to expose their company, their web-site and prevent them from doing any business with any other reputable moving company or any consumers ever again. They are messing with the WRONG GUY!!!

Their weight sheet is under weighted and lacks items to categorize in my opinion; therefore they said I owed them well over $1,000 more on delivery. Read the fine print too, what they say you are signing is not what you are signing, especially true when you are being misled by a Condor Moving subcontractor who can't read! After they wrapped the furniture in blankets, and before they moved it, they went through and listed all of the previous scratches on the furniture. That's a little backwards, don't you think? They basically said all my furniture was scratched (to cover their butts), which was fraud as about 50% of the items were less than 6 months old and brand new without any damage. I would not recommend using this company.

Almost every piece of furniture is damaged and they did a lot of damage to my wood floors, both packing and unpacking. I have a thick solid fruitwood chair leg that was broken in half - not even at the joint. That should tell you heaps. I would not recommend this company. Worst moving experience that I ever had. I haven't had time to add up the dollar amount of damage to my furniture, but my guess is about $2,000. Fortunately I have all of the receipts of my furniture. Regardless of who you use, take a ton of before and after photos. I wish I could attach photos to this site.

Anyway, they called on Friday Aug 25th and said they would have my belongings here by the following Monday. I rush my real estate agent to get the house I am leasing settled so I can have my stuff moved in by that date. I pay for the extra pro-rated days. Monday comes - no Condor. Tuesday comes- no Condor. I call the dispatcher - no answer, leave a message. Wednesday comes - no Condor. I call customer service. Apparently, my shipment is scheduled to arrive on either Sunday Sep 3 or Monday Sep 4th.

So now I have a house that I have paid extra days for expecting to be able to live there, but since my stuff did not arrive when they said it would I spend a week in a hotel - another $460 down the drain. Sunday comes and I get a call from Max saying he is heading this way and will be here Tuesday.. um what happened to Sunday or Monday. I tell him I was told it would be Monday at the latest. They do drive through the night to arrive by Monday which was good. They were mostly courteous.

My biggest complaint is the amount of stuff that mysteriously disappeared - coffee table, my bicycle (how do you lose a bicycle?!), several boxes. In addition, the top of my media tower is ripped off and I have several broken dishes.

The movers showed up on time on the 31st. Everything was going fine until I received a call later that evening telling me that my furniture and boxes, which they had over estimated the amount of, actually weighed more that originally estimated. This I saw as odd since most of my things are made out of whicker, but what really got me thinking was the fact that they claim it took 50ft of bubble wrap and 5 rolls of tape to secure one lamp, one glass table top (3ftX2ft) and a television. They also claimed that to pack my framed pictures was an additional $250. My original estimate jumped up $500. I informed them that upon the arrival of my things, I would measure each and every inch of bubble wrap. They told me that if that was the case, a refund would be issued.

I was a bit upset that this was what was going on, but since I've never paid someone to move my things and I really didn't know how much it all weighed, I figured that this was okay. I really went with a moving company so that I wouldn't have to go through the stress of loading, driving and unloading my stuff. Now, a week and a half later, I'm a nervous wreck because my things are still in Dallas, TX and they can't tell me exactly when they're going to arrive. On Monday morning, I called Condor to ask why I hadn't received my items when they told me I would. They informed me that they never make a gurantee about when items will arrive. They implied that I was lying when I said that during my original quote, I was told that it would arrive on Monday. They also told me that I didn't understand the moving process and that I was over reacting.

I guess they're right, because with my limited understanding of the moving process, it was my belief that I paid them to pick up my items at point A and move them to point B where they would be unpacked within a reasonable time period. I guess I'm just stupid. The man I talked to told me that he would find out when the next truck was coming through Dallas and then call me back so that I would know when to expect my things. I never received a call from him. When I called on Wednesday to check on my move (remember, they have all my possessions and I have an empty apartment), I was again treated like an imbecile.

The man that had told me he would call me back was unavailable to talk to me, but when I told the lady that he said he would call me, she checked with him about the status of my move. I was informed that a truck would be coming through Dallas on Thursday morning and my things would most likely be loaded onto it. If there was not any room, it would then be loaded on the truck coming through on Friday morning and arrive at my apartment on Saturday. Granted, there's no gurantee. It is Friday now and I have not heard from them.

I'm breaking out in nervous hives everytime I think about this. I have guest arriving tomorrow to stay with me, and I have no furniture. I worked for an entire month to pay them to move my things, and they can't even tell me where they are or give me a time frame as to when to expect them. I am furious that they misrepresented themselves and then told me that I just don't understand the moving process. I'm appauled at their lack of customer service and their ability to hold my things for ransom. It seems to me that the more I complain, the longer it is taking them. As if they're trying to prove a point. I only wish that I had checked this site sooner so that I would not have gone with them.

The day before the move was scheduled , the dispatcher called and not only tried to delay the move until that evening, but tried to ramrod us into moving the following day - Sunday. It became a nightmare after that. On the day of the move, the dispatcher not only did not schedule us until four hours late but did not have the courtesy to call, as he indicated he would. Then the three workers tried to hold us up for more monies. Four of our party jumped in to help them move in the time they had alloted... then when we did get the few items moved,they tried to intimidate us, both verbally and physically, to give them more money. We actually had to suggest calling the police before they would leave. All in all a most unprofessional nightmare.

Since our people did the primary carrying, only one box of dishes was dropped by one of the movers resulting in several broken dishes.

On 12/07/2005, Condor Moving company wrongfully denied my claim. I then responded to Condor in writing on 12/27/2005 pointing out their wrongful denial of my claim and copied the Better Business Bureau on my letter. Then on 12/30/2005, I received a call from an employee of Condor (I failed to write down his name) advising that if I would withdraw my complaint with the BBB that he would pay for the damages to my cedar chest in the amount of 30.00 but would round it up to 100.00 but only if I would withdraw my complaint from the BBB. I explained to the employee that I would advise the BBB that the matter was resolved when I received the 100.00. The employee of Condor then stated that if I did not withdraw my complaint from the BBB on 12/30/2005 that he would only pay 30.00 for the damage as required by law. He however has not provided any law, weighed or inspected the cedar chest to determine that amount of damage done to the cedar chest. He then advised that he would not discuss this matter with me further as I would not withdraw my complaint from the BBB.

As a consumer, I am appalled at the business practices of Condor Moving and believe that their tactics are bribery and extortion of a consumer. I would appreciate you checking into the business practices of Condor Moving and take whatever action you can to penalize Condor Moving System's for bribery and extortion of a consumer.

To justify this raise in price, they charged me twice the quoted price for every pound over THEIR original quote!!! Also, they would have charged more if most everything of mine had not already been pre-boxed@ 10-15 dollars per box. I paid 200 extra to box mattresses, some other pictures, and a mirror. They also charged extra for moving tape they used to wrap my items!!!?! Cutting my losses, I paid the remaining balance of 2,000 on credit card. So I have paid Condor Moving Syatems 2,800 at this point.

When I get to Vallejo, the movers insist that I would have to pay an extra 600 dollars if a full-sized 18-wheeler can not get to my house... The mover was contracted by Condor, not a Condor mover as they promised-- and this mover tried repeatedly to insist that his truck could not get to my house. After fighting with the mover, he finally backed the truck up to my house. Then, he insisted that I pay him an extra amount of 200 dollars because it was a 'long walk' before he unloaded my stuff from the truck. It was not longer than the 'acceptable distance' of 150 feet as listed on the contract. Again, I cut my losses and paid up, as they were holding all my personal belongings... priceless to me... So now the total cost was 3,000 dollars.

After I start unloading boxes and unwrapping furniture, a 400 dollar chair is broken! Valued at only 60 cents per pound, this chair is insured for only about 150 dollars. I file a claim for this 150. The claim is returned as 0 dollars, as they tell me that this chair was already broken before delivery, which it was not. I contact the claims office, and am told it is 'being reviewed'. One month later I call back repeatedly during business hours... and no answer.

The movers show up on the day of the move. Briefly, the driver goes over the contract. He says and here you see that the billing is seventy-five dollars per hour ... I stop him and explain that Randy had told my wife that billing was by the piece and that it would be no more than $337.50. He states that he has no idea what I'm talking about, and that it will be billed by the hour. At this point I see the bait and switch occuring, but what am I to do? I have to get out of this apartment, and I will not be able to get another mover in time, which is exactly what they are counting on.

They start loading the truck as I go and start reading the contract. I sign the contract and the addendiums that state they can refuse to unload the truck if I don't pay... What choice do I have? After they get about 3/4 of the truck loaded, my wife gets home. I explain everything that happened to her. She gets pretty mad, which I can understand. She gets on the phone and calls the company, which is closed. There is a message on their answering service that gives a number in case of emergencies. She calls the number and talks to the owner. She tells him that she does not like how they are running their business and that she is not paying more than 337.50. He acts like he has no idea what she is talking about. He tells my wife that they can unload the truck back into the apartment if we wanted, but that I would have to help.

The total cost of the move was agreed at $1,100. I kept in contact with Mario to make sure that the dates were still firm. The last time he had e-mailed me was on the 10th of July 2004 to ensure me that our move was to continue as scheduled on July 28th 2004. On July 13th 2004 I recieved a call from a man who represented himself as the manager of the company. He stated that they could move our stuff but that Mario had mis-quoted us and that the actual price would be $2,200. Rather than the previous price we had agreed on. This was double our agreed price. The only response I got was that at least they were nice enough to tell me ahead of time about the price change. Companies that conduct business like this are completely unethical.

Due to this news just two weeks before our move we have been put in a financial bind. We have already given our notice to our apartment and we are due to leave by the 30th, we have both also given our two week notice with our current employers. We are now considering taking a loss on our furniture for pawn. We are unable to find any movers who can move us at a reasonable price because we were informed so late that we had no time to make other affordable arrangements. If we had known even just two months ago when they cashed our deposit we would have been able to work something out, but informing us two weeks prior to the move had forced us to move at a much higher cost. We will be paying much more to hire another company than expected due to the companies lack of consideration and poor ethical standards.

I'm seeking reimbursement at the $.60/lb rate ($261) at which I contracted for insurance. All four items are totally unusable.

Mario indicated that Condor would need to schedule the loading of my belongings at least one week in advance. I told Mario that they could come any date that they needed. Condor eventually scheduled Friday, April 23, 2004 as my pick up and load date. I took off work for that date, and on the Thursday night before they were to come, they left a message that they would be at my apartment between 5-7pm (I thought it was an odd time, but I had no problem with it). At noon on Friday, April 23rd (pickup date), Max called me and asked three times if Condor could deliver my belongings in Boston earlier than May 1. I told him no, as I was driving to Boston and could not take occupancy to my new apartment prior to May 1. At the time, this was irrelevant to me, but later it became more clear as to why they were inquiring about an early delivery in Boston.

5pm came on the day that Condor had scheduled to pickup and load, no movers. Max called at 6:30pm and said that they were wrapping up another load and would be there shortly. Max called at 9:30pm indicating that they were on the way. By 11:45pm, still no Condor. I called Max myself and told him that they would have to come the following day. A midnight to 4am loading job seemed unreasonable to me. Call me crazy I guess.

The next day, Condor arrived at 12:30pm and loaded my belongings without incident. I asked the driver, Eddie, where he was having to drive across America on his way to Boston. He said Missouri, Wisconsin, NY, and then Boston. We discussed the 3 day window and he indicated that he would have my belongings in Boston as close to May 1 as possible. On Friday, April 30th, while driving from Dallas to Boston, Eddie (the driver) called me and indicated that his truck had broken down in NY and that he was not going to be able to deliver my belongings on May 1. I had no problem with that, but stressed that we had a three day window agreement and that I expected my belongings in Boston by Monday, May 3. On Sunday, May 2, I called Eddie myself to confirm the May 3 delivery. He indicated that my belongings would not be delivered until the end of the week. I told Eddie that this was unacceptable.

He then told me that the Bill of Lading indicated that the delivery date was flexible and that by law Condor had ten business days to deliver. I was furious and went back and read my Bill of Lading. Eddie was correct, in the delivery date box, they had written flex. I had been duped!

However, I went back further and reviewed my Rights and Responsibilities When you Move and on Page 9 it clearly states that once an agreement is reached, the mover is REQUIRED to enter those dates on the order for service and bill of lading. On Tuesday, May 4, I called Mario in the Texas headquarters, and explained the circumstances of the nightmare loading job that they never showed up for, and Condor's subsequent failure to deliver my belongings in the agreed upon three day window. Mario indicated that he would call the dispatcher and get back to me.

Mario never called me back, so I called him. He said he was on the other line and would call me back. Never did. After sleeping on the floor in my sleeping bag for a week in my empty apartment, my belongings were ultimately delivered on Friday, May 7, by one of Condor's affiliate moving companies located in New York, Key Moving Company. This company was very courteous and I asked them if they had delivered my belongings to Boston from NY for Condor on an emergency basis after the unreasonable delay. They indicated no, we were always coming up to Boston on Friday, May 7.

It is obvious that Condor initially wanted to deliver my belongings in Boston early, and when this was not possible (and not part of our agreement), they dumped my belongings off in NY and waited until one of their affiliates had a job in Boston. The reason I am even taking the step of wasting any more of my time with this issue is because when I chose Condor Moving, Mario stressed over and over again about how stellar Condor's record was with the Better Business Bureau, etc. I have checked the internet and, lo and behold, I found more complaints about Condor regarding similiar moving nightmares.