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Ramada Plaza Resort delivers accommodations with a range of amenities, including pools, fitness centers and event spaces. The brand caters to both vacationers and business travelers, offering locations in city centers and tourist destinations.
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Reviewed July 27, 2006
I purchased a vacation package for $698.00 in February, 2005, under high pressure. Now my child has become very ill and may not recover. There will be no time for, nor money for vacations anywhere in the near future.
I explained this situation to Ramada but they could care less. They refused to refund any of my money, in fact they wanted me to give them more money to lengthen the expiration date.
I have lost $698.00.
Reviewed July 27, 2006
Ramada Plaza Resorts called me and gave me a sales pitch on their top vacation package for $1600. The entire time they talked to me they kept refering to the Ramada Inn, asking if I knew how nice the rooms are in the Ramada Inn and saying that I would always have the best rooms in a Ramada. Nothing was said about having to go through a 5 1/2 hour sales pitch to buy a time share at each of the locations.
Our first vacation was Williamsburg, VA, and the so called Ramada Inn turned out to be a run down Comfort Inn. We had to give the a $100 deposit, to be returned at the end of the tour. They did give it back but it was a GIFT CREDIT CARD without the pin number.
I sent a certified letter demanding a refund and the letter was returned stamped: MOVED LEFT NO ADDRESS.
Reviewed July 24, 2006
I got one of those coupon booklets a few weeks ago and almost called the 1-800 number just because all of those legtimate companies such as Carnival, Universal, and Alamo are listed with their official logos as a part of this, plus Ramada itself is a big legitimate company. I knew it would be a timeshare pitch, but figured it might be worth sitting through for all of the benefits.
Thank goodness I checked on the internet, and thank goodness you all were right there with your postings of complaints. You saved me and multiple members of my family who I emailed.
Reviewed July 16, 2006
I called to find out about a package they were offering, allegedly for free. When I found out it was NOT free I hung up on the representetive.
Since then I've received 2 hang up calls a day from them.
Reviewed June 28, 2006
Because this was called Ramada Plaza Resorts we thought we would be getting 5 star/Gold Crown treatment that we were used to getting. What a joke.
From the time we arrived to pick up a car from Alama (wrong size) everything was less than 1 star. The Amerihost in Orlando was nothing like we were used to. We were talked into the food vouchers and the food was horrible.
The people at the counter were nice & helpful at the hotel, but the people for the Ramada Plaza Resorts were rude & not helpful. The Carnival cruise was good - they could not ruin that. The hotel in Ft. Lauderdale was better but was far from where we had to go to use those expensive food vouchers.
This trip was very expensive & we had to attend not 1 but 2 Time-share presentations. (Our second trip was with Take Me On Vacation. It was less than half the cost of the Ramada trip & was closer to 1st class treatment.)
Reviewed June 24, 2006
I called to inquire about some travel vouchers I received in the mail for a cruise to the Bahamas. I was immediately asked to verify my SSN, address, phone #. The vacation documents were explained in a rushed and haphazard way and because I was talking at the Vet's office I told the rep I needed to call her back. She informed me that I would not be able to do that due to the high volume of calls they get.
When I was told how much the program cost, I told her I could not afford it. She immediately put on a supervisor that told me he would let me pay half today, and bill my credit card for $59 for 6 months. Every time I questioned any aspect of this deal, I was put on hold. They got my credit card number, got a verbal agreement from me and prepared to send a packet to my home.
When I got home, I realized what an idiot I was to get into this as I have never trusted these kinds of scammy offers. I called my credit card company and was told that the payment for $350 had already gone through. I called the customer service dept. at Ramada Plaza Resorts and explained I did not want this trip and was told that my account was not in their computer.
I am unable to stop this company from billing the credit card or recover funds already taken. I am going to have financial consequences with no service delivered or wanted, and they have my card # and SSN.
Reviewed June 23, 2006
We made the mistake of calling Ramada Plaza regarding an offer. We saw it as a scam, passed on their offer, but now they WILL NOT GO AWAY!
We get multiple calls per day, have reported them to the Fed Do Not Call List - but nothing happens. How do I get my phone back?
Reviewed June 13, 2006
A salesman called and told me about a one week vacation in Florida that included a cruise. I told the salesman that I had four children and I wanted to know exactly how much extra 2 children would cost. I gave him their ages and he told me that the extra charges would be $100 for each of the 2 children for the cruise. I ask him explicitly, several times, if there would be extra room charges and he told assured me they would provide rollaways and the cruise ship had very large rooms.
I asked if I could think about it and talk to my husband but he said no, the offer was only good for that day. That should have been my first clue.
When we called to make reservations, I was told there would be substantial extra costs for the 2 children. Basically we would have to pay double. I told them that is not what the sales representative promised me and asked for a refund or a partial refund. They were very rude and said there was nothing they could do.
The time for me to make reservations is starting to expire, so Ramada called and wanted the $700 balance. I told the caller what happened and he said it really was not his problem but they he could give me a $90 discount. It makes me sick that I basically gave them $700 and have no recourse.
Reviewed June 1, 2006
I received this in the mail and was going to Florida the next Spring so decided to try it out. I bought a $300 package for Orlando Florida and paid for it by credit card. My children were performing in Disney World on Spring Break and I wanted to be there. I called the required time to set up my dates and asked what time of the day I would be required to take the tour and no one could tell me and it had to be on the day that my children were performing. I was not going to go down there and possibly miss the opportunity of seeing my children perform in Disney World. So...we made other reservations and spent more money. I called later and tried to see if they would move the package to another location as my family was not going back to Florida and they refused.
Oh...I also tried getting my money back and they refused that too. There HAS to be a law against this. I paid for a trip that I didn't get to take and they could care less. Not ONE single bit of help or cooperation on their end. However after reading all of these complaints on the internet I might as well realize that my $300 is gone.
Reviewed May 17, 2006
I have been uanle to take this trip or sell it. I asked for a refund of my $668 plus $58 extention I paid. I looked into this trip after I was hooked into in on the phone and and herd very bad things and numerous complaints. I was never able to get out of it and I really don't want to take the risk. Even after several extensions I was unable to sell. Now with out giving them more money it is going to expire. The people that I have spoken with on the phone have been very arguementive and really don't care if i lose my money or about my happiness as a customer.
Reviewed May 15, 2006
This Company sent us a advetisement come-on recently and I responded. When I told them I was not interested, they have harrased me to the point I am tired of having them call any more. I mean, several times a day, every day. Even on Sunday. We have started keeping a log of these calls commencing on 5/11/06. So far we have had 9 calls in 3 days. No one will respond when we answer the phone and shortly we get a busy signal. I know this constitutes a criminal offense and we are going to take action if it continues.
Reviewed April 30, 2006
In March 2005, I received a letter stating I had won $1,600 towards a vacation and cruise to Florida. After listening to the high-pressure sales pitch from the sales person, I was convinced to buy into the trip. The sales person said she would give me an additional 18 months to use this vacation package, so I had a total of 3 years to book my trip.
After thinking about it, I realized that I did not really want to do it, so I called back 2 days later to cancel. I was told that I could not cancel, but I could pay $300 and would not have to pay anymore until I booked the trip.
I received a call this past February, 2006, informing me that my trip was going to expire in September. I explained to the sales rep that I had an additional 18 months to use it, but he did not have it on record. I called them about a month later to try to cancel again and the woman I spoke with said that I should have read the information carefully when I got it, and called then instead of waiting 1 year.
Reviewed April 24, 2006
We were told that we would be getting a package deal on certain trips and that we would need to pay a balance due. They then got our information and then started to debit our bank account to the amount of 300.00 to 450.00 dollars every two weeks. We have reguested our money back and have been told that we will not be getting our money back and that even though we did not want to even do the deal, we will ONE have our credit ruined and two possibly will be taken to court over the over due amount. We want our money back and are refusing to continue to pay for something we can get a lot more cheaper through my husbands military connections.
It put our bank account in OD and Our bills did not get paid because of what they did without our permission.
Reviewed April 17, 2006
I was solicited in September, 2005, through my credit card company, for a Ramada Plaza Resorts trip. The 4 day trip started in Ft. Lauderdale. You had to pay the air fare there, but then you would take a 2 day cruise to Nassau. It included a sub-compact rental car from Alamo to finish the trip in Orlando. They also wanted me to take a tour and fill out a questionaire. I spent $698 and was told I got selected for the gold key which would include food at both hotels, including the cruise.
I am active duty Military and got deployed during the time I was supposed to take the trip. I called them when I got back and they said they had no problems extending me. Then they called me and said I owed them more money and they wanted to charge me for the extention they gave me.
Reviewed April 17, 2006
I purchased a vacation package with a time share tour. I paid over $5000.
There was no reservation for the car promised . I received a 2 door convertable for 4 adults and luggage so had to upgrade-Alamo charged me $450. Hotel rooms promised in "luxury" Ramada were absolutely unliveable-rugs were even wet. No Universal Studio tickets as promised. 3-day/2-night luxury cruise to Bahamas turned out to be an embarrassing excuse for a cruise ship with throw up bags everywhere and a pool that was a 9x12 hole in the floor.
I spent an additional $900 for hotel accomodations. Two days of my vacation were completely wasted on the time share tour which they said would only take 2 hours total and the other day arguing at the welcome center about my hotel room.
Reviewed April 11, 2006
I found out what a scam and how bad the vacation was really. They send a computer disk that did not represent what they are selling.
I called and asked for a refund of the $700 paid and was told that everything was non-refundable.
I will not use or pay this company the other $700 they want. No sense sending good money after bad.
Reviewed April 7, 2006
In August 2003, I purchased a package for a vacation/cruise for the price of $698 per person for my daughter and myself. In 2005, when I called to make my reservations I was told I could upgrade for $240 more to include a beach front hotel room, and other VIP services. We scheduled the trip for March 26-April 2 2006. That is when the nightmare began. When we arrived to the Ramada Hotel in Ft. Lauderdale, I was appalled of how rundown the hotel was.
Our promised "beach-front" room view turned out to be a trailer park. The hotel was located in the highest crime area of Ft Lauderdale. It was dirty. I even took photos of the bathroom which displayed mold through-out the shower fixtures and floor tile. The vanity was painted plywood. Far from the "luxury" resort we were told it would be. When we checked in at the Welcome Center, that is the first time we were told we HAD to attend a "tour" aka "sales presentation" for a time share property before we could receive our pass for the cruise.
At the "tour" we were kept for 4 1/2 hrs. Feeling pressured, I purchased a time share, only to cancel it 2 days later. The Postal worker that helped me made a comment when she only saw the address "so you are cancelling too". She knew only by seeing the address!
Now to the cruise--the Regal Empress is so old and not updated as claimed to be. The cabins were in terrible shape. Bottom line, I feel like I have been scammed and feel very angry. Nothing that was "promised" took place. This whole scam should be shut down and quit taking people's money.
Reviewed April 6, 2006
My mother is 82 yrs old and was coerced into purchasing a vacation and I am now trying to rectify the expenditure that she cannot afford. The 30 days expires as of tomorrow, April 7, 2006. I attempted to phone on April 5, 2006 and as of today, April 6, 2006 have sent a registered letter asking for her fees to be repaid. From what I can tell, she is supposed to have a companion accompany her and she does not have that. She was told this was in recognition of the way she has managed her timeshare. Well she does not own a timeshare.
I think this is absolutely shameful, that a senior citizen can be ripped off so easily.
Reviewed Dec. 7, 2005
I received a voucher in the mail from Ramada Plaza Resorts, offering a $1,600.00 travel voucher for a Florida/Caribbean Cruise Vacation Package. Out of curiosity, I decided to give them a call. The moment the sales rep answered, I knew there was something wrong. She fumbled for the phone and in the background I could hear a great deal of commotion. She immediately asked me for my confirmation number and phone number I was calling from. She confirmed the number and began her sales pitch, "Just so you know, this does not include airfare." When I heard her say this, I immediately logged onto my computer and punched in RPR. Wham, there it was, "Consumer Complaints about Ramada Plaza Resorts". How did I know?
I continued to listen to "Valarie" as I read the consumer information. I started laughing, because every time I would get to a section where there was a complaint, “Valarie” was trying to sell it. I interrupted "Valarie" and told her about the article I was reading. She immediately became quiet and said, "It says nice things, right?" "Actually, quite the opposite", I said. She continued to try and sell me the Vacation Package. I was happy to say to her, "Thanks honey, but no thanks." To Consumer Affairs, I say, "Thank you, thank you, thank you!" Thanks for the information provided by Consumer Affairs; the only damages I suffered were loss of airtime and time in general.
Reviewed Aug. 12, 2003
I too got the pitch from RPR and paid $204.00 for my vacation vouchers. The hotel in Orlando was disgusting. The restaurant employees surly. The resort/timeshare employees at the hotel rude and self-interested.
There was one saving grace. It was the timeshare pitch -- a 5-star resort with a great price. You know, I have done a lot of traveling all over the world and learned to use hotel rooms to shower, change clothes and sleep. It doesn't have to be expensive.
We purchased the time-share property and look forward to trading it with others to go to places to visit friends all over the world. I have yet to try the Williamsburg portion of the package but we are going to use it at Christmas. Again I need a place to park my car, shower, change and sleep. I am going there to enjoy the sights.
I'm sorry for the folks who have been disappointed but life isn't cheap and I find Americans want the world and don't want to pay for it.
Travel costs money. Get the best deal you can find and live with your choices.
Reviewed March 25, 2003
We purchased a so-called highly discounted vacation package on October 19, 2000 from Ramada Plaza Resorts; at the time of sale we were not advised of any sales presentation requirement. On January 20, 2003 we booked our trip for April 4, 2003 and paid Ramada $1,200, which included fees for upgrades as the hotel did not meet our expected standards even though this package was touted as having first class accommodations.
On February 20, 2003 we phoned Ramada to get the details of our trip as no itinerary had been forwarded to us as promised. It was at this time we first learned of the sales presentation requirement; we immediately refused and spoke to various sales people and supervisors. Throughout the dispute all they tried to do was sell us more upgrades/extensions on the other so-called free trips. I can get a getaway for free anywhere if I am willing to sit through a sales presentation, I dont need to pay for the displeasure of doing so.
Furthermore, after performing my own research on travel pricing there is no discount on this vacation. I can book this trip cheaper than the price I have paid. We then called back on Feb 22, 2003 and cancelled the trip with much resistance from the Ramada sales staff/supervisors. It was at this time we demanded to hear the so-called tape of our conversation from Oct 19, 2000 where we were supposedly advised of the sales presentation requirement. To date this tape has not been produced.
After much back and forth it was at this time the Ramada staff agreed our trip was cancelled and our refund was forthcoming. We made 2 subsequent phone calls and on each occasion were told the trip was cancelled and our refund would be credited to our card any day. Finally after a month had passed on March 24, 2003 we called and demanded to know where the refund was. We were placed on hold 3 or 4 times for about 20 minutes, a technique they use frequently, until a supervisor finally came on and said your were getting a refund but it was denied.
At no point were we ever told this trip was nonrefundable, and in fact oral representations were made on at least 3 occasions that the refund was authorized. We relied upon the representations made by Ramada and booked another trip. We called back later that evening to try and resolve this issue by speaking Arthur and Warren. The supervisor refuses to get on the line and we hear him say in the background tell him to f*** off. This epitomizes the treatment weve received by the Ramada organization.
In summary we demand a full refund of the monies paid of $1,900 (1200+700 paid in 2000) due to the following misrepresentations made by the Ramada Plaza Resorts: 1. We were never advised of the sales presentation requirement and would never have booked a trip where we had to sit through one. 2. The trip is in no way highly discounted, a misrepresentation by Ramada organization. 3. We were never advised the trip was non refundable.
Reviewed March 24, 2003
I purchased 2 tickets at $698.00 each and 2 children's tickets for 99.00 each. Upgrades cost $500.00 for this supposed luxury vacation to Ft. Lauderdale, cruise to Bahamas, 2 nites in Orlando. These funds were US. In addition to these costs my flights cost $700 US. The supposed all-inclusive beverages were iced tea only. I dont need to go on & on, as once I checked this web site, I see that thousands of people have been ripped off as well. THE ENTIRE VACATION PACKAGE WAS A LIE and a big scam.
These supposed activities provided for children, for example at the first hotel in Ft. Lauderdale( which I was told was minutes from the beach, sixty minutes to be exact) was a pool. The room was a dumpy, filthy, stinky, and afraid of sleeping in the beds, for fear that the sheets may not have been changed; disgusting, mildew wallpaper in the bathroom, etc. etc. This was supposed to be a great March break vacation for my two-year-old children.
The luxury cruise as they advertise, even today with LasVegas show revue, etc. etc. was more like a tugboat. Its pathetic, when the MC of the supposed entertainment makes jokes about the size of the ship for about 20 minutes, prior to showtime. Oh yes, entertainment for the children, consisted of a colouring contest, and at least $40.00/perday for change for the free arcade.
We arrived in Ft. Lauderdale, and within minutes Alamo Rental Cars were asking for an additional $239.00 for an upgrade. I previously paid for an upgrade, however, the car fit 4 persons but there was no room for any luggage whatsoever. Then parking for the car, while at the ship, yadda, yadda, yadda. I had rented a wheelchair in Canada, and brought it with me. When I arrived at the ship, I was told that it was not necessary. Yes, it was not necessary on the ship, but what about getting off the ship at port in Bahamas, with no taxis available, and me not able to walk anywhere. The buses were not available due to the lack of clearance. So my sons & I sat outside on a bench.
Reviewed March 23, 2003
I began my vacation in paradise on March 15, 2003. I was very disappointed and displeased with the service and accommodation provided by Ramada. First, my car rental company was changed from Alamo to Continental Rental Car, a company I had never heard of. I went to Continental and pick up my vehicle. It was a Geo Metro with 44,000 miles, bad brakes, no power steering. I drove the car and stopped to grab something to eat. When I returned the car would not start. I called Continental to get a replacement car. It took them 1 hour to send me a working car. By this time I was so uneasy about driving one of their cars for 4 hours to Fort Lauderdale that I decided to take my own car and leave the rental car.
Secondly, I arrived at my first class hotel. This hotel was not a first class hotel! The agreement that I made with Ramada was to stay in a first class resort. Anyone with any sense would agree with me that this hotel was very far from being a first class. The elevators did not work well and the service was very slow, it took them 3 hours for us to get some towels. The water in the hotel was yellow and the whole building had a bad stench to it.
Thirdly, the Imperial Majesty cruise was a big disappointment. In their brochure they mention they have first class amenities. First of all, the full fitness center had 2 steppers, one treadmill, and a bike machine. Ive seen home fitness centers better than this one. The inviting heated pool on deck was about the size of a cabin, if you can fit 5 people in there I think you would be lucky. The video arcade was very disappointing there were a total of 7 video games.
As for enjoying a sumptuous breakfast and luscious dinners its highly unlikely that you would find anyone to agree with those statements. The breakfast was horrible, the eggs looked like oatmeal, the bread was hard, and the cereal was stale. Dinner was even more disappointing. On our second dinner we found hair in our food. The staff apologized and decided to bring out another plate, however by that time everyone at our table was disgusted and did not want to eat.
Reviewed March 16, 2003
Our family of four prepaid with a visa credit card for a Bahamas cruise that was offered with your vacation package. This package included hotel accommodations and a Bahamas cruise including a rental car from Alamo. When arriving at the terminal to board our cruise ship called the Ocean Breeze, something totally unexpected happened to us. We were denied to go on the cruise, because they said that they couldn't find our reservation number or our names in the computer. Of course, I, along with my family, were so emotionally disappointed that we started crying. During this emotional time, they escorted us out with security and were very, very rude to us.
This is something that I will never quite forget and neither will my children. We drove from Orlando at noon and arrived in Ft. Lauderdale around 4:00PM. We were hoping that in the future, maybe someone from this company would compensate us in someway to make up for this tragic moment in our lives.
Reviewed March 5, 2003
I waited 2 hours to hear the audio. Conveniently it did not contain the first 30 minutes of the phone call in which I asked the agent directly if I would have to attend a sales pitch. I requested a copy of the audio (which was obviously doctored) but was told I could not have it. Unfortunately for them, when you tape record a phone conversation in Maryland (where I am) both parties have equal rights to the audio. I will be sending them a refund letter by certified mail as well as a cover letter from my attorney. I have a friend who made the same purchase and tells the same story as I do. The tour is not that big of a deal but I do not like to be lied to or deceived.
Reviewed Feb. 6, 2003
Below is the letter I sent to RPR. In response to the letter I received a full refund.
January 1, 2003
Dan Lambert
Ramada Plaza Resorts
2419 E Commercial Blvd. #100
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308
Tel: (954) 630-9449
Fax: (954) 567-9399
Re: Request for full refund following Ramadas fraudulently misleading description of vacation package #*******-025RP
Dear Mr. Lambert,
The purpose of this letter is to explain Ramada Plaza Resorts (RPR) fraudulent misrepresentation of the vacation package that I used from 12/19/02 to 12/26/02. I am requesting a full refund of the $1,700 I paid for the vacation package. RPRs dishonest and fraudulent description of the vacation package violates the Maryland Unfair Trade Practices Law as well as various laws as the states Consumer Protection Laws, as described by the states Attorney General.
Below I describe how RMR misled me by misrepresenting its offer. I have also enclosed documentation of multiple lawsuits against RPR for its fraudulent activities. These cases show that my terrible experience with RPR was not unique, but rather is quite common as the company routinely lies to customers and misleads them. RPR operates under several company names in order to mislead customers and protect itself from the consequences of its illegal behavior.
I am furious at the awful treatment I received from Ramada. I am requesting that Ramada fully refund my vacation package because of the companys fraudulent claims and misleading operation. These problems include Ramadas failure to provide the vacation for which I paid, Ramadas numerous misleading descriptions of aspects of the vacation, as well as Ramadas failures to correct its errors. I was extremely dissatisfied with my vacation and I look forward to Ramada making up for my awful experience.
I paid $1,700 (approximately $700 each for my wife and me, plus an addition $300 an hotel upgrade) for this vacation, but the vacation experience was nothing like the package that Ramada sold to me. Ramada misled me and attempted to get even more money from me by failing to abide by the terms of the vacation that it sold to me. During my vacation I complained several times to Ramada and explained each of the problems outlined below. I have already contacted my credit card company and informed it that I will be taking action against RPR because of its misleading business practices. If I do not receive a full refund, then I plan to contact the following authorities to inform them about RPRs illegal and misleading business practices:
- Charles Bronson, Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
- The Better Business Bureau
- The Florida Attorney General
- The Federal Trade Commission
Part I: This section describes the process by which RPR fraudulently offered me the vacation package by misleading me in order to make the package appear much more attractive than it was.
In March of 2001, I received a solicitation in the mail from RPR. The solicitation offered a vacation package, to which I responded by calling RPRs toll free number. A representative named Julia told me that the vacation package was a one time only offer that could not be purchased anytime after my phone conversation with her. After taking careful documentation after the phone conversation, I allowed the sum of $698.00 to purchase a secure deposit for a vacation in my name; I later paid another $698 for my wifes ticket, as well as $300 for a package upgrade.
However, I later learned that this description of the offer as an exclusive, one-time opportunity was fraudulent. Indeed, one can purchase this same package at any time at http://www.dreamtimetours.com, and just a week before my vacation, I received another call from RPR offering me the same package, which it claimed again was available only on this one time basis. Thus RPR fraudulently misrepresented the nature of its offer and its availability, which is a direct violation of Florida law.
RPR indicated in the solicitation that the vacation offered were valued at over $2,800, but for a limited time, RMR was selling it at a highly discounted price of $698/person for a total of $1,396. This is deceptive and misleading because the actual retail value of the vacation I recently took was significantly less. The vacation included:
- Two nights of first class accommodations at the Ramada Plaza Resort Hotel
- Premier Cruise Line, Carnival Cruise Line or Imperial majesty Cruise Line
- Three nights of first class accommodations in south Florida
- Transportation for seven days provided by Alamo Rent-A-Car After taking the vacation, I have determined the actual retail value of the trip as follows:
- One night at the Ramada Ft. Lauderdale on Commercial Blvd. ($50/night): $50.00
- Two nights at the Quality Inn Hotel at 1208 N. Ocean Blvd. ($129/night): $258.00
- 2-night cruise on Imperial Majesty Cruise line (2 people @ $100.00): $200.00
- 2 nights at the Radisson Barcelo in Orlando ($90/night): $180.00
- 7-day Alamo car rental: $130.00 Estimated total retail value of my RPR package: $818
Thus the trip value is nowhere near the $1,396 that RPR claimed was a discounted rate, much less the $2,800 price indicated in the solicitation, or the $1,700 that I paid for my vacation. Aside from the problems with the inflated cost, my vacation was not worth the $818 because of the continuous problems caused by RPR, which I detail below.
In the solicitation I received in the mail, RPR claimed the package was being offered to me was part of a prestigious nationwide marketing study and promotion. Only after I purchased the package did RPR inform me that the vacation package was actually a timeshare program, in which I was obligated attend to a timeshare presentation. If I had known that the market study was really a timeshare presentation, then I would never have signed up for the vacation. Furthermore, as I explain in detail below, RPR forced me to attend two timeshare presentations, not one, in order to receive the gift that it promised to me upon completion of one presentation. Thus RPR required me to pay more than the retail price, while it also required me to take part in a timeshare presentation that took time away from my vacation. RPR fraudulently solicited the package as a discounted vacation in exchange for quality feedback.
Additionally, the solicitation sent to me indicated that the trip offered a choice of the carriers Premier Cruise, Carnival Cruise, or Imperial Majesty Cruise. The solicitation made no mention of additional cost to choose a carrier, which implied that each service was available and that all were all of equal value. However, this was not the case, as RPR again misled me. Only after paying for my deposit did RPR inform me that I would have to upgrade to a more expensive package in order to go on the cruise line of my choice. I was never informed of this in the solicitation or at the time of sale.
Part II: This section provides a day-by-day account of RPRs mistakes, fraudulent claims and failure to address its errors, all of which ruined my vacation.
The problems began on my first day in Florida. My wife and I arrived in Ft. Lauderdale on Dec. 19, looking forward to spending several days at the upgraded, luxury, beach-front hotel for which we paid. I chose the upgraded hotel because Ramada described it as a luxury resort with excellent dining facilities, a deluxe exercise area and other amenities. However, the hotel where we stayed (the Ramada Fort Lauderdale on Commercial Blvd.) was a low-class hotel in an unattractive, commercial area that was a 20-minute drive from the beach. The hotel smelled like an athletic locker room, the room was dirty and dank, the room had no refrigerator, the tap water was yellow, the restaurant in the hotel was unattractive and grungy, etc. etc. These accommodations were anything but deluxe. Because room we checked into was dirty, we had to change rooms later that evening, which was another hassle. I called the hotel from the my cell phone and was told that a room for the evening would cost a mere $50 for someone off the street. This was an early of many indications of RPRs failure to give me the vacation for which I paid.
On the night of Dec. 19, I called the Fort Lauderdale Welcome Center to complain, but the person who answered the phone told me that the manager had left for the day. Therefore, he claimed, we could not change hotels until the next day. We were forced to remain in this dump when we should have been a luxury, beach-front resort. I told him to have the Manager of the Welcome Center call me the next day. I never received a call from the Manager. I met others in the hotel who were on Ramada vacations, and they too were furious about the poor accommodations. They had already gone on their resort tour, and their tour guide informed them that Ramada and the hotel where we were staying had received several hundred complaints from customers who had been misled in similar ways to my experience.
In conducting research since taking my trip, I have found countless cases of fraud committed by RPR. On Dec. 20, my wife and I drove over an hour each way to get to our resort tour. Ramada had informed me over the phone that after completing the 90-minute tour, we would receive free passes to Disney World. However, after completing our tour of the Radisson West Palm Beach, which took over two hours, David at that Welcome Center told me that we would receive the vouchers in Orlando. This was not part of a nationwide marketing survey as RPR claimed in its solicitation, it was a scheme to sell timeshares.
My wife and I were unable to change hotels until 6:00 pm on Dec. 20. We had lost nearly two days in the run-down hotel on Commercial Blvd. This package was a horrendous way to begin what was described to us as a luxury vacation. Ramadas problems continued.
We moved to the Quality Inn Hotel at 1208 N. Ocean Blvd, which is also not a luxury resort. It was a low-end Quality Inn Hotel. The exercise room was very small and had old equipment. The hotel restaurant was grungy and had a foul odor of tobacco smoke. When I checked into the Quality Inn, I again called the Ft. Lauderdale Welcome Center to find out why we were not in a luxury hotel. I was told that the Ramada Resort on the beach, which was several blocks from us and was the hotel where we should have stayed, had no vacancies. Again my wife and I suffered because RPR fraudulently misled us in describing the vacation as much more valuable than it was. Our vacation failed to meet the description of what we purchased from RPR.
In falsely describing the quality of this hotel and other locations where we stayed, RPR again violated Floridas applicable laws. I again asked for the Manager of the Welcome Center to call me on my cell phone in order to discuss these problems. I received no such call, despite leaving multiple messages for her at the Fort Lauderdale Welcome Center. Not only was I extremely angered by the poor quality of our vacation, but I resent having to take time from my vacation to address Ramadas myriad errors.
On 12/22/02 we departed on the Ocean Breeze ship. This portion of the vacation also failed to meet the description of the trip that we were given and which led us to purchase the package. First, the boat was over 40 years old, small, poorly equipped and unattractive. The rooms were tiny, the beds uncomfortable; the boat was not a floating luxury resort as RPR described it to me in its solicitation. Second, RPR told us that once we were on the boat, all expenses would be covered except for alcohol and gambling. This was not the case. Small bottles of water cost upwards of $5 and cans of soda were similarly overpriced. The ship automatically billed us $39 in gratuities. Other similar charges appeared despite the fact that we were told that the cruise was all-inclusive.
Again I tried to contact the Manager at the Fort Lauderdale Welcome Center in order to rectify these numerous errors. I left multiple messages with Christina in which I stated firmly that I needed to speak with the Manager. I never received a return call from the Manager, even though I waited on hold over 20 minutes and left my cell phone number for her.
On 12/24 we arrived at the Orlando Welcome Center (OWC). RPR had told us that we could pick up our Disney World tickets at the OWC. However, a Senior Employee with a British or Australian accent at the OWC told us that we had been misled by Ramada and the Fort Lauderdale Welcome Center. If we wanted the vouchers for the Disney tickets, he told us, then we would have to take another resort tour. I explained that that was incorrect, as Ramada had told us that we would receive the vouchers after taking one tour. The OWC double-checked and confirmed that we had been misled. Yet again RPR lied to me in order to make its package sound more luxurious than it was. We would have to take another tour to receive the tickets. Yet again Ramada misrepresented the terms of the vacation package. Yet again we lost vacation time because of Ramadas failure to provide the vacation features that we purchased.
I decided to purchase the vouchers outright from the OWC and then be reimbursed for them after taking my second tour (recall that Ramada had informed me that I would only have to take one tour in order to receive the tickets). However, when I went to claim my refund, the representative at the tour facility (2901 Parkway Blvd/ Kissimmee, FL 34747) claimed that I was only entitled to a 50% refund of the price I paid for the Disney tickets. I had to argue with her for several minutes to convince her that I was entitled to a full refund, despite the fact that I had in my hand the OWCs written guarantee of the full refund. This sort of unpleasant and dishonest experience was typical of my vacation, as I found myself having to fight for things for which I had paid or been promised based on my purchase of the vacation package.
In sum, my vacation was ruined by Ramadas fraudulent sales practices, misleading information and failures to provide me with what I purchased. As documented, these errors are deceptive and fraudulent. Furthermore, they violate applicable laws of Florida and Maryland. I look forward to receiving from Ramada a full refund for my vacation package.
Thank you,
Daniel
The company in question misrepresented itself and the products it sold to me. Following my investigation and letter of complaint, I received a full refund. I encourage others to do the same.
Reviewed Feb. 3, 2003
Any one walking in off the street was given the $39.95 rate. Their rooms are going for $39.95 with 11.5% tax. I paid RPR $224.00.
In addition my complaint is their mailers and phone solicitations conned me. They represented quality properties as quality resort facilities that would cost several times what I would pay them. Instead they were old and in an undesirable location, with a lot of noise. They are poorly maintained and cleaned, i.e., shower heads didnt work, doors warped, locks messed up, the maids seldom use vacuum cleaners and torn and stained comforters.
I lost $100 for hotel, 4 hours of my time being irritated by their time share pitch men, put up with staying in a really 2nd-class dirty hotel and added about 200 miles of driving from Disney back and forth from where I would have stayed. The legitimate Ramada Inn on International Blvd was also charging $39.95. I am a Ramada Club memember and therefore would have stayed there.
Reviewed Feb. 2, 2003
For the complete package for 2 adults: $1665 this was paid up front (credit received $135) Ft. Lauderdale: Hotel Taxes: $24 Alamo upgrade: $251.61 Total: $275.61 Bahamas: $100 Orlando: $24 My husband was very upset during most of this vacation. We spent way too much money for something that was only halfway decent.
Reviewed Jan. 31, 2003
I have called on three or more occasions since then and been told that I still will not get a refund. The only response I have gotten from them when trying to get a refund is them trying to push me to add $234.00 more to my package as a customer service upgrade.
Reviewed Jan. 27, 2003
They promised a week vacation with a car with they fast-paced and aggressive salesperson. They said this was a one-time only promotion and I found the same voucher that I received in the mail right on the internet. All lies. This first class package vacation is all false. All the hidden fees - from Cartax, to hotel tax, to UPGRADE charges -plus I cannot even rent a car because I am only 23 years old - then they tell me sure I can - but it cost $30 a day for extra charges. I want my $698 returned to me - please help. I have tried calling, faxing and writing to Ramada Plaza Resorts. I am put on hold - or accidentally hung-up on!
Reviewed Jan. 17, 2003
This so called "Vacation of a Lifetime" was a total mess. It involed an ant-filled bed, a rusty old cruise ship, a pushy timeshare salesperson and poor service. I paid around 1K for this crappy vacation. I could've spent my vacation locked in a closet and would've had a better time.
Reviewed Jan. 3, 2003
I have called these people a couple of times for the past 2 years, asking for a refund of $598.00. They say they will not refund my money, but, only extend my vacation! I am not planing to go anywhere now or in the next future, so if matters get worse I will get a lawyer!! Thank you!
Reviewed Jan. 2, 2003
We paid over $2,000 and have not yet travelled.
Reviewed Nov. 16, 2002
After the cruise, we drove to Orlando for our two nights in the AmeriHost resort there. When we arrived at the "visitor's center" in Kissimee, we were informed that we had to attend yet another time share presentation. I had been told at both the visitor's center in Ft. Lauderdale and in Palm Beach that we only needed to attend the Orlando time share presentation if we wanted the free tickets to Universal Studios. We did not want the tickets and told the woman at the counter of the "visitor's center" so. She informed me that I would lose the additional vacations that I was supposed to receive if we did not attend the presentation. I refused and went to another hotel, paying for the two night that were supposed to be provided by Ramada Plaza Resorts.
This was the worst travel experience that I have ever had. It was insulting and much more expensive than if I had booked this trip myself.
Reviewed Nov. 4, 2002
In June 2002, I took the bait of a mail offer for a one-week "luxurious sun-splashed" vacation in Florida, including a "first-rate" cruise, and a vacation in Las Vegas, Aruba, and Williamsburg, VA. I called the 1-800 number and get the program which would cost me $1200. I paid $598 first to purchase the program, which was the beginning of problems. Just hours after my purchase, I found some research about the cruise ship is more than 50 years old and is less than luxurious.
I called the customer service number of the company, Ramada Plaza Results, and wish to refund or cancel the program. Nevertheless, I was told that the cancellation was not possible. After an hour phone negotiation, the company "kindly" let me change my program to a cheaper plan, 7 days 6 nights in Orlando/Ft. Lauderdale for $686. I have no idea but to reduced my lost. I changed my program to the latter, even though I strongly want to cancel the program after just hours of the purchase.
I have totally spent $686 for the vacation program of Ramada Plaza Results, which is a big deal for a full time student like me. That means a month's living to me. I cannot sleep several nights after the purchase, felt guilt, and fight with my girlfriend who thought I am stupid and totally waste of money. I want to fix the relationship with her and urgent to know is there anything I can do to recoup my money?
Reviewed Oct. 23, 2002
I am a divorced, working mother of four kids. I received a letter in the mail that sounded like I had WON a vacation package and that I had to call the number provided to claim the prize. NOT TRUE. I was told that what I'd "won" was a huge discount off the total cost of the trip. I ended up buying into a "First Class" $698 vacation package because I really wanted to give my kids a treat. I also think that dealing with a very aggressive salesperson had a lot to do with it. So I buy into this package that I had to take within a year. I lost track of the dates so was not able to take my vacation within their specified travel dates.
Funny thing is, I was contacted AFTER the vacation expired. A salesperson tried to talk me into paying more money to extend the travel period. When I refused I was told that my only option was to take their less expensive package, worth $498, because they could not give me a refund. I figured I better take it because I'd rather lose $200 than the whole $698 I originally paid. But after reading about all the horrible experiences other people who've gone on these trips have had, I am loathe to take my four kids on this trip. Is there any way I can get my money back????
Reviewed Oct. 15, 2002
Cruise scam where three day cruise is a ferry ride without cabins but with significant port charges/other fees to Bahamas where are expected to sit through sales presentation at "resort". November of 1997, spent $ 600 or more, and have not taken trip or been able to get money back. Approximately 17 attorney generals have sued the company.
Reviewed Oct. 10, 2002
Purchased a Florida vacation with additional trips to Las Vegas and Puerto Vallerta from this organization in July of 2001. I used the Florida portion of this package in March of 2002. The trip was not very nice and many of the conditions portrayed by the printed materials and representatives claims were greatly exaggerated. The sales portion of the trip was known and understood by myself as to its merits and motives. The initial cost of the trips was very reasonable and the Ramada name convinced me to purchase. Although the Florida trip was disappointing to my wife and I, we made the best of it and returned home wiser and suspicious of our remaining dream vacation destinations.
Researching the Las Vegas and Puerto Vallerta sites revealed that the hotels in Florida were palaces compared to the poor accommodations offered at the other locations. I refuse to travel to the bonus destination sites and realize that the 2800.00 I gave to Ramada Plaza Resorts will be allocated solely to the Florida trip. This business arrangement was unfair to the consumer and I would like some restitution of my original investment. In addition to any fund that I may recover, I would relish the prospect that the organization and individuals responsible for this fiasco be prosecuted and fined.
Reviewed Oct. 8, 2002
I paid $599 for a package that requires additional $599 payment to activate a cruise and several hotel vacations plus a week's use of a rental car. I also subsequently got a certificate for 2 free nights in a Las Vegas Hotel. Certificate requires reservation 60-days in advance. Was told Dec 15 onward is blacked out, but that would be no problem as that left Dec 7 through 14th available. They then said it takes 10-15 business days AFTER receipt of the certificate in the mail before they can process reservation, meaning reservations really have to be requested 90 days in advance.
Luckily I'm not out dollars on this, but in looking up corporate leadership to send a complaint to, I came upon your site. Now I know the $599 already paid is lost forever, but maybe you saved me thousands plus untold anguish due to their unconscionable misbehavior. There is no point in trying to shame Ramada's corporate leaders into fixing these problems because there really aren't any, just as there isn't really a Ramada anymore. Ramada is just one a number of names in the inventory of Cendant, successor to CUC, one of the most fraud-plagued companies of the pre-Enron era. Their chairman, Henry R. Silverman, appears immune to the very concept of shame. Nothing short of an indictment will make any impression on Cendant.
Reviewed Oct. 3, 2002
It's Oct. 2, 2002. I just returned from a week from hell. I signed up for this because things sounded good. I was using this trip for our honeymoon. So I paid for it, then went on the trip six months later. I got the paperwork. Looked it over had a couple of questions. First was the car, it listed econ. car. I asked if I could upgrade, she then told me about an upgrade package. So I listened. Back to the car. I asked for a Grand Am style car. She said no problem. The next part of upgrade in this package was the hotel. It would go from the place that was 20 miles away to a hotel that was on the beach and had an ocean view. I said great. Next was the cruise instead of an inside cabin I would get an outside cabin with an ocean view and since I was doing this as my honeymoon, I would get a queen size bed. The package I paid for was $1200 plus the upgrade was another $350.
Now I knew I had to pay for the taxes on the hotels and the car, I just didn't figure on almost $300 in taxes. Now comes the day of the trip. My new wife and myself flew to Ft. Laud. go to Alamo car rental in the airport. They tell me that I'm getting a Cavalier. I said no I was getting a Grand Am (midsize). He said no you are getting a (compact) car. So I call the reservation number that I had. They proceed to tell me the same thing. After about 45 min. i was getting nowhere. So I had to pay another $83 to get a (midsize) but Alamo was running a special that I could get a SUV. so ended up with a brand new Trailblazer with also a total of taxes for 7 days of about $100.
I go to the welcome center get my info of the hotel and where I had to go for the timeshare resort to get my cruise tickets with which I knew I had to do to get the cruise tickets. So we go and find the hotel, found it and could not believe the condition it was in. The place was called the Ocean Resort Hotel. I thought we were staying at a Ramada Inn. Not true. We went in, talked to the girl at the counter and was informed we would be staying across the road not on the beach like I had paid for in the upgrade so I'm on the phone again. They give us another place to look at. This was the Paradise Hotel that was only 2 buildings down. It was a dump too but we would be on the ocean but would not have an ocean view.
So I called back to the lady at the welcome center. She tells me its there (Paradise) or here (which meant the welcome center place which was 20 miles away from ocean and also was a dump) and she would refund me about a $100 but we wanted to be on the beach so we stayed at Paradise hotel. The day at the timeshare was not too bad, they did have trouble with us saying no thanks but after 3 hours we were out of there with our cruise tickets. The taxes at the hotel was around $60. The part I didn't get was when heading the the ship we passed a great looking hotel called the "Ramada" right there on the beach about 2.5 miles from where we stayed. So we get to the port for the ship find out that we have to pay $10 a day to park there.
Now this is the first cruise we been on. It was a dump also. Get our room, its very small with 2 single beds. It was an outside cabin but it did not have a clear view of the ocean. After talking with the purser's desk we were stuck with what we had. Now so far we were told that we were staying at lux. hotel and going on a lux. cruise they were full of crap. On the cruise we were to get 5-star food (I'm a chef and I've eaten at 5-star places). I would consider it a 1-star. We were heading to Nassau, bah. We find out that if you want to go swimming you had to pay $32 apiece to go because all the beaches by the port are private. So we paid $51 apiece to go snorkeling and then go to their beach where they were serving lunch. We got a hole 6 hours in Nassau. The entertainment was lousy. The pool could only hold about 6 people. The only good thing was the weather and being with my new wife.
We get back paid $20 for parking and head for Orlando. On arrival we found our hotel which was the Amerihost Inn. Go to the welcome center which was inside. There I find out that the Universal Studios tickets I was to get I had to go to another timeshare meeting. At this time I started to lose it. I started to yell at the guy (Phillip) behind the counter. He says there's nothing he could do, tells me to call this #. So I go to the phone outside the doors of the welcome center. A lady answers, I ask for a manager. I get James. We start talking, he told me that I have to go to this timeshare. I say no, I don't, nothing was said prior to this. He tells me to talk to the guy inside. I tell him that I was told to call him (James). That went round and round. At this time he tells me to go back in and he'll call there. He talks to Phillip, he gives me the phone, James tell me that I have to go to the timeshare or I don't get my tickets. I lost it and told James that if I could reach though the phone (you can fill in the rest) so my wife got the papers that we needed. Had to pay $20 to make sure we showed up which it was returned to use after the meeting.
When arriving the next morning, meet the guy that was give the tour, told him he had 1.5 hours then we were done (that was the min. time they said we had to go). After 1.5 hrs we left with our tickets. Now the hotel we stay at in Orlando was okay but the funny thing was that there was a "Ramada" right across the street. We talked to a good dozen couples and they all felt the same - that they got ripped off.
Reviewed Sept. 28, 2002
My wife had purchased this program from Ramada Plaza Resorts as a surprise to me with the idea that you can use a wheelchair on the ship, but they didn't say that it have to be a regular size and my wife's is in a much wider wheelchair, they said it would be no problem getting through the corridors...I had to keep calling them back to make changes on our plan, because of my heart attack and depreciating health.
Due to circumstances beyond our control, and due to this hardships to my wife and I, "We wrote them" that "We must cancel our vacation package with them." Since that time, we have been forced to move to Michigan, due to increasing health problems recently, also my wife has had numerous emotional breakdown and is home-bound due to her Fibromyalgia and low back problems, and other health problems to many to mention at this time, which have been documented with her doctors, she is confined to bed & occasionally to her wheelchair, it is for this reason that we are requesting for a complete refund of $1,600.00.
Since we didn't hesitate to purchase your program at that time, we would also expect the same courtesy, we have no one that is left in our family to consider for this program and cannot sell it to any other persons, this has been very devastating for the both of us...We need to resolve this issue soon. Please let us know what maybe done to expedite this matter.
Reviewed Jan. 1, 2001
My "significant other" and I were also duped by these two companies, which I now discover are the subjects of multiple class action suits in a least six states.
When I responded to the 800 number, I was given the "hard-sell" by a fast-talking, smooth salesman. He promised us the sun and the moon, which was important to me because at the time, my boyfriend and I were seesawing over our relationship.
I booked this vacation because I wanted an opportunity for us to go away together, free of worries and obligations in an idyllic setting conducive to love and romance. Well, we went on the trip, but whatever love and romance we experienced were not because of the tour operator or the resort.
Of course, our airfare was not included in the package deal, so we arranged for our own travel to Florida. Upon arriving in Fort Lauderdale, we proceeded to the Alamo Rental Car office to pick up our "free" car for the week. After paying insurance, taxes and fees, and a fee for an additional driver, our "free" rental car cost us close to $60 for the week. I later talked to a number of people who also had rental cars from Alamo. It turns out that their rental cars only cost them $107 total for the week, and they had much nicer, larger cars. Strike #1 against National Travel Services. In addition, we had to wait in a very, very long line to get the car because many other people were also on this same package deal, and they all seemed to be arriving on the same day at the same time!
By the time we got our car, close to three hours had passed since we had landed in Florida. We then headed to our "luxury resort hotel," the Ramada Plaza Beach Resort. What a joke! Except for the exceptionally nice young man at the hotel desk, there was nothing nice about the hotel at all. Everything was shabby and broken, and the room he gave us to look at smelled of human urine.
A Fairfield company picnic was going on out by the pool (apparently a frequent Saturday occurrence), and the noise was deafening. The pool was crowded, not one deck chair was available, and the tiny, tiny beach in back of the hotel was cluttered with all kinds of games and sports paraphenalia. Children were screaming everywhere, and I couldn't begin to count the number of people drunk and smoking. Not at all conducive to a relaxing experience by the pool or the beach.
The final strike against this hotel is its location, way out in the boonies of the Fort Lauderdale strip, far away from all the major restaurants and other attractions in the area.
By some fluke, I had in my possession a copy of an "upgrade" to a different hotel. I don't think we were really supposed to be assigned to this hotel, but somehow we managed to get relocated there (the Sheraton Yankee Clipper). This place was very clean and freshly redecorated; all the hotel staff was excellent, too, from the parking garage attendant all the way up to the assistant manager. I would happily go back there and stay again. Fortunately, I could probably afford it, too, because I found out that it would only cost me $89 per night with my AAA membership. That is one of the overwhelming things I discovered about the entire trip: We could have made all the arrangements ourselves, had a far better experience, and spent a lot less money.
The "90-minute presentation" that we had to attend at "Vacation Village" turned into a 2-1/2 hour presentation. In this regard, we were lucky because we later heard horror stories about people subjected to 4 and 5 hour presentations. The lady assigned to us shook my hand and spilled coffee all over the front of my shirt, so we didn't get off to a very good start. She also exposed more of the lies that I had been told by the smooth-talking salesman.
For example, he had told me that many people go and spend the whole day relaxing at Vacation Village and the other facilities available in that area. Debbie made it clear that we could not avail ourselves of the pools, tennis courts, or the services at the Westin Resort that Vacation Village owners get to use. It was at this point that I found out that the trip was actually being promoted by RCI (Resorts Condominiums Internation). I used to be a member of this organization, but I quit it because of its deceptive trade practices, unmet claims, poorly maintained properties, complicated system of booking travel weeks, and so on.
Had I know that RCI was behind the promotion being offered by National Travel Services and Ramada Plaza Resorts, I never would have called the 800 number in the first place. .
The "luxury cruise liner" turned out to be a 47-year-old tub, the Ocean Breeze belonging to the Premiere Cruise line. It was by no means luxury nor was it premiere. It was a floating excuse for gambling; again, the smoking, which was allowed everywhere, was horrible. Our room was clean enough, but the toilet seat was broken and the mattress on one bed was shaped like a bowl. (Note: The housekeeping staff fixed the toilet seat within 12 hours.) We were afraid that the food was going to be bad when we saw bologna being served at the departure luncheon buffet, but the food actually turned out to be quite tasty. I have nothing but nice things to say about all the lower level staff, such as our cabin steward, our waiter, and our busboy; they were all magnificent!
The cruise director and the shore excursion staff were sadly lacking in information, feeding us misinformation about what was available onshore in Nassau. Maybe this was all part of the plan to get people to commit to their expensive tour packages, none of which were worth the money they were charging for them.
For example, we paid $30 apiece for a trip to "Blue Lagoon Island," which included the round-trip boat ride and a meal plus all the amenities of the island. However, when we got to the island, we were told, "That way is the showers, and this way is the food," and that was that. No one directed us to the "blue lagoon" or to the hammocks or any of the other facilities. Consequently, we never did find the "blue lagoon," and we only found the hammocks late in the day. We also were forced to listen to loud music all afternoon. The "lovely white sand beach" turned out to be full of rocks, both onshore and in the water, littered everywhere with aluminum cans, plastic cups, and other garbage. We also had been told that the food would be served until 2:30 pm, but everything was packed up between 1:30 and 2:00 pm and food was not available beyond that point.
We would have been far happier renting a Moped for $50 for the whole day and striking out on our own on Nassau. We had been told by the snippy Scottish woman running the shore excursion desk that all the beaches on Nassau were closed to the public and only hotel guests could use them. This was a downright lie, as we found out, but they would not give us a refund of our $60 at this point.
I have one more comment about the cruise portion of our trip. I had been told by the salesman that the ship would leave Port Everglades at 5:00 pm and would reach Nassau that night around 11:00 pm. I asked him several times if he was sure because that seemed like a very short time to travel that distance. He assured me that it would indeed arrive around 11:00 pm and then it wouldn't depart again until around 2:00 am the next morning. Thus, my companion and I thought we would have two nights and a whole day in Nassau. As it turned out, the ship docked in Nassau around 8:00 am, but we were not allowed to go ashore until almost 10:00 am. We then had to be back at the ship by 6:00 pm that evening for a 6:30 pm departure, rather than a 2:00 am departure. We were never able to go out a single evening of dining and dancing in Nassau. I concur with someone else who reported that this "cruise" was nothing more than a floating gambling ferry.
Once back in Florida, we picked up the rental car and paid the rather stiff daily parking fee at the Port Everglades terminal. Everywhere we went on this trip, we were hit with hidden fees, taxes, surcharges, etc. All told, a trip that would have cost us less than $1000 had we booked it oursleves, actually cost us close to $2000! My boyfriend says I have to stub my toes a little before I learn; in this case, I bunged up the whole foot pretty bad!
We suffered lots of inconvenience, lost travel time, emotional distress, and guilt. I felt pretty bad about getting my boyfriend into the trip and kept apologizing to him half the time. What was supposed to be a pleasurable, romantic experience became a time filled with anxiety and remorse. And, to top it all off, I just feel like I have been "had." I feel like a total fool for having fallen for their gimmick. I don't like looking bad in my boyfriend's eyes (or anyone else's for that matter).
Reviewed Oct. 7, 2000
In August 1999 I took the bait of a mail offer for a one-week "luxurious sun-splashed" vacation in Florida, including a "first-rate" cruise, and a vacation in Las Vegas, Aruba, and Williamsburn, VA. I brought my wife and four-year-old full of great expectations to Florida on Aug. 19 only to be quickly disappointed and embarrassed by the low-end rooms next to the freeway, the rustbucket cruise ship and the intense sales pitch for a one-week time share for a poorly maintained property in Palm Beach for a whopping $30K at 17% interest.
Reviewed July 20, 2000
Like so many of the horror stories I have been reading, we too have experienced the vacation from hell that Ramada Plaza Resorts-Orlando/Ft. Lauderdale Vacations claims will be "the vacation of a lifetime".
To date, I have been in contact with all of the following:
- FLORIDA: State Attorney General's Office; Consumer Affairs; Better Business Bureau; Bureau of Time Shares; Mayor of Orlando; Mayor of Ft. Lauderdale; Central FL Hotel & Motel Association; Dept. of Business & Prof Regulations.
- TENNESSEE: State Attorney General's Office; Consumer Affairs; Better Business Bureau; NBC News.
I have also sent a detailed letter with supporting documentation and a copy of the videotape they sent us to the Federal Trade Commission.
As of June, I know that Florida SAG settled on behalf of 17 states for $200 for each litigant. Seven more states (CT, IL, NC, OH, WV, WA, WI) have a class action suit going against these people. Tennessee can't seem to make up their mind as to whether they will file a class action suit on behalf of their consumers.
After returning from our nightmare vacation, I proceeded to call all of the companies involved in this fraudulent scheme to recoup our $6,400.00. Here are the results of the calls and complaints I have received thus far:
- ALAMO Rent-A-Car: According to Marsha Samuels the reservation is made by RAMADA and it is their responsibility to advise us of the seating capacity of the car. Therefore, they respectfully denied our request for a refund. My answer indicated that they were responsible under the "bait and switch" theory. If they truly were innocent, they would refund our money and charge RAMADA Plaza Resorts for the so called "up-grade". I have not received an answer.
- NATIONAL TRAVEL SERVICES - I have not heard anything about my complaint against them.
- RAMADA PLAZA RESORTS - They responded to Consumer Affairs in Florida that they were going to credit our charge card for the initial cost of $1668.00 and they have credited our charge card for that amount. I answered that this amount was NOT sufficient and was a far cry from the $6,400.00 we were out due to their scam. I am waiting for their reply.
- RAMADA FRANCHISE SYSTEMS,INC. - When I contacted them, they were aware of the litigation against RAMADA Plaza Resorts and claimed they were misled by Daniel Lambert on how he would use their name in the franchise agreement. YET, they are still allowing him to use the RAMADA trademark to give the scam creditability. They claim that "In accordance with the terms of the Franchise Agreement entered into between the owners of the Ramada Plaza Resorts and Ramada Hotels, Inc., this is an issue on which Ramada Customer Service has no authority to intervene". If Daniel Lambert of RAMADA Plaza Resorts had used the RAMADA trademark for purposes other than was indicated by the franchise agreement, that would be a breach of contract allowing them to sever his use of their trademark. Instead, they continue not only to allow but also encourage the use of the RAMADA name which indicates their participation in this scam.
On the advice of both the Florida & Tennessee Attorney General's offices, I have contacted an attorney about filing a civil suit. He has admitted we were scammed and have a case. He has suggested that if we get a group of people (at least 10) to go in together and file a civil suit, the legal fees would be shared by all the plaintiffs. We would then be able to go to Federal court to file a suit against RAMADA. I have a wealth of supporting documentation as well as the video tape and the pictures we took of our accommodations on the trip.
We lost one of our two week's per year vacation time as well as the $6,400.00. When we finally reached Orlando, two in the party of three went all to pieces when they refused to give us our "bonus tickets" to Universal Studios as promised and cried themselves into an exhausted sleep. By this time we had had so much go wrong and with the rising amount of money it was costing us, they were too scared to leave the room that night.
Reviewed Feb. 9, 2000
I received a call from someone who said that they were from the Ramada Plaza Resorts. After speaking to the person for a while I truly wanted to get the vacation package he offered, but I did not have the money on my credit card. He assured me that what every I had left on it would be ok, and he was going to help me out. When I asked about the airfare to these different locations I was told that the Ramada Plaza Resorts would assist me in airtravel. It was implied that it was included in the package or a real deal would be given to me on various airlines through the connection with Ramada Plaza Resorts.
After speaking to the young man I was transferred to someone else who confirmed that the vacation package I just purchased was not voluntary. When I hung up the phone I thought I had a good deal. How wrong was I?
At the time I purchased the Ramada Plaza Resorts plan the available credit on my credit card was almost gone. I did this purchase in good faith. Four months before the date my vacation would expire I called the 1-800 number listed on my vacation package. At first I thought to just extend the package because I was going through some economic hardships and knew it was not possible to travel so soon. My package was extended for six months free of charge.
Reviewed Jan. 28, 2000
I was told I would get a week vacation for four if I put down $500 over the phone with a credit card and $500 when I booked the trip. As an added bonus, 3 nights in Vegas, 3 nights in Aruba and 3 nights in Williamsburg, PA.
Reviewed Jan. 24, 2000
I purchased a certificate for a 5 day 4 night stay on Maui for 2 from Davis R. on Ebay. He signed over a certificate issued by Imperial Majesty Cruise Lines which he told me to mail to Ramada Plaza Resorts.
After sending in the certificate (which had my Visa number on it), they called me and said that Imperial Majesty was out of business and that they are trying to be the nice guy and cover vacations for them and Maui was not available.
Reviewed Jan. 14, 2000
This is a copy of a letter I wrote to a Consumer Information Specialist for the State of Massachussetts.
I have been having an incredibly tough time dealing with a travel agency I took a vacation from about 9 months ago. Basically, everything that was promised in the vacation, was not delivered, and when all was said and done, me, and 8 other friends of mine were left with a big bill, and a vacation that was more agonizing than enjoyable.
I got a letter in the mail telling me that if I called this toll free number I could receive a vacation for free. So of course I called, and spoke with a VERY pushy saleswomen, who convinced to take the vacation, which would only cost 600$+. She told me that if I didn't say yes right then, that the offer would not exist for me again, so it was either now or never. So I made the mistake of saying "now".
The itinerary of our vacation was that we would arrive in Ft. Lauderdale and stay at a "Luxury" hotel for 4 days/4 nights on the beach. We would then proceed to a "Luxury" cruise line to the Bahamas for 3 days/2 nights, and finally finish our trip staying in Orlando for 2days/1 night. The only other accommodation we were supposed to receive was a free rental car for the week.
One other thing to note, was that because of the number of friends who were accompanying me on this vacation, we had to purchase THREE separate packages, because one package only accommodated 4 people, and we had 9 people in all.
The day we arrived at the Ft. Lauderdale was a disaster. We had to take a bus to ALAMO Rent a Car, and realize that our free rent a car was actually not free. We ended up haggling with the Travel Agency for 3-4 hours to get them to give us more than ONE car because surely 9 people and their luggage could not fit in ONE car. I ordered THREE packages, and therefore should have gotten more than one car.
The travel agency was supposed to send us these "vouchers" to use at the rent-a-car, hotels, etc. for everything that we paid for, but they didn't send us the vouchers for some reason or another, so that at every stop, we had to get the travel agency on the phone and get them to fax the vouchers to the different merchants. This usually took 2-3 hours each time, and it happened at the 3 different hotels we stayed at, the Alamo Rent a Car, and the cruise boarding.
After we squeezed into our TWO rent a cars, which we ended up spending a total of 620$+ for the week, we proceeded to our beach front luxury hotel we were promised. We arrived at this poor excuse for a hotel, that was about 20-25 minutes from the beach.
I proceeded to get the travel agency on the phone to find out what the hell happened, and after about 2-3 hours, convinced them to get us a room at the Sheraton Yankee Clipper on the Ft. Lauderdale beach. That hotel was very nice. Probably because it wasn't a Ramada.
Then came time for the cruise. The Salesman for the travel agency convinced me to take their ship called the "Ocean Breeze" instead of the Carnival ship we were supposed to take because supposedly the "Ocean Breeze" was a nice ship, with more things to do. When I first saw this ship, the "Ocean Breeze" that I was supposed to be boarding I almost cried.
It was a over-sized garbage barge. The first thing I noticed about the ship was its swimming pool, which was a 5-ft by 5-ft hole in the floor. We were promised a "stateroom" with luxury accommodations, but, you guessed it, there was no luxury about it.
In fact, the Travel Agency didn't reserve enough rooms for all of us. We only got two room, which slept three each, for the nine of us. That means 3 of us had to sleep on the floor for the cruise. THE FLOOR! Can you imagine going on a cruise and having to sleep on the floor?!?
The rooms themselves were disgusting. They looked like stow-away cabins. They were about 5' by 8' closets, with tiny skinny bunk beds that folded from the walls, and NO window, another thing we were promised. The ship apparently was built in the late 50's and boy did it feel like it was.
When we arrived in Nassau at 10am. we were told that we had to be back on the ship at 6pm for departure to Florida. What happened to the 3 days/2 nights in Nassau? We were only allowed one day, and didn't even get to experience the night life. The rest of the time we spent on the rust-ridden ship. There are more details that I could get into about how awful this trip was, but I think I explained the major ones.
After calling up Ramada Plaza Resorts, they assured that if I wrote a letter of complaint to the "Compliance Department" I would get some sort of a refund. I did this 3 times, and had my friends do it as well. Every time I talked to a customer representative, they gave me the run around, telling me it would be handled next week, or that they had to put me on hold, and never took me off hold, or that I'd have to speak to a supervisor who wasn't there, but would call me back when they were. Every time they told me just the things I wanted to hear just to get me off of their back, and it almost worked. I almost gave up after 2 months of nagging them, until I read on the internet, a similar story of someone who had almost the same experience as me, and it re-vitalized my energy to try and receive some sort of compensation for this disaster of a trip.
Reviewed Jan. 5, 2000
I'm writing for my father-in-law. Over the holidays I found out he had purchased a cruise vacation through Ramada Plaza Resorts, 871 West Oakland Park Blvd., Ft Lauderdale, FL
Since he had stock previously in Ramada Inns, he did not think twice about the offer he received in the mail and was quite proud of the vacation he had set up for himself and his wife (they are both in their late 70s). He has paid about $1,176 for a 7 day luxury cruise/vacation out of Ft. Lauderdale, FL. which includes an upgraded rental car (Alamo) and an outside berth on the cruise ship. The dates are 16 Jan 00 through 22 Jan 00. The dates consist of vacation on 16-18 Jan in Ft Lauderdale; cruise on 19-20 Jan on Premiere Cruise's Ocean Breeze (which I understand Ramada has chartered for two years starting Jan 00); and vacation in Orlando on 21-22 Jan which I think is an option included in the price.
After returning home this weekend, I started to do some research on the Internet on this and found out there were all kind of problems and complaints. He was not told that this is part of a marketing/sell campaign for vacation condominiums, and they would have to attend a meeting (sales pitch) on 17 Jan. Also I understand there are additional costs including port charges of up to $390, rental car parking, etc., etc.. He was led to believe the price he paid included all expenses.
I also understand the hotel and ship accommodations are "less than luxurious" and in some cases downright atrocious. I don't think this is the type of luxury vacation/cruise he had in mind for the both of them. To date he only has a voucher for one night at an unspecified hotel. I also understand there are 8 state-led class action lawsuits against Ramada Plaza Resorts (including Ohio). He is checking on what he can do to cancel, but it appears that he would forfeit $100 each plus "other deposits Ramada made" (amount is unspecified) and the remainder, if any, would not be returned, but held for a future vacation through them.
Reviewed Jan. 1, 2000
I did some research via internet before I confirmed final reservation dates and read that there are several class action suits against this company. And that people who actually went had terrible conditions. It was not as was billed. I do not want to send any additional money to complete this trip.
I planned this trip as a special time for my sister and I to get away together. Our mother passed away last year and we wanted to spend more time together since we live in different states. Now I am out $698 and have to make other plans. I am ashamed to let my sister know how I was duped.
There may be class action suits and there may be regulatory agencies going after some or all of these companies but each of these individuals should sue in Small Claims Court to get back the funds.
Ramada Plaza Resort Company Information
- Company Name:
- Ramada
- Website:
- www.wyndhamhotels.com
