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The only experience I have with Genworth. As a home health aide I took care of an elderly man, covered by Genworth. They were very difficult to work with. It required a lot of paperwork, they were very particular, with how the paperwork was filled out, and if it didn't meet their expectations they would deny payment. I am currently considering LTC insurance for myself, and received a quote from Genworth... I doubt I'll choose them. I seriously think, they never expected senior citizens to live as long as we have. They have "0" integrity, and should be investigated!
I took out my long-term care policy 11 years ago. Before deciding on a plan, the salesperson presented me with printouts showing the costs and benefits of several plans from which I could choose. At the bottom of each printout it states "While our Long Term Care Division reserves the right to raise future premiums for all policyholders by state and class, it has never had to do so since it pioneered long term care insurance more than 30 years ago. And, your premiums will never increase due to changes in your health status or your age." So I was informed, in writing, that there could be premium increases.
About 2 years ago I received a letter from Genworth notifying me of future premium increases. These increases totaled 12.1% over a three year period, so I'm puzzled about the much larger increases to which other policyholders have been subjected. HOWEVER, I am concerned about the financial strength of Genworth Life Insurance Company which issued my policy. As of 11/7/17, A. M. Best gives the company a "B" which translates as "FAIR", Standard and Poor's gives the company a "B+" which translates as "WEAK", and Moody's gives the company a "B2" which translates as "POOR". Because of the company's financial weakness and the poor ratings given to it on this website I'm seriously considering self-insuring rather than paying $2,600 next year and who knows how much in the years to come for my policy.
Am 76 living in NM. In 1999 I and my spouse started paying LTC coverage premiums with the company now known as Genworth. My husband died 2009 after 3 yrs of prostate cancer treatment. While on hospice we tried to file claims with Genworth who had endless reasons why we could not benefit from the coverage we had faithfully paid for 10 years. Now 17 years later, I am told, by their customer service rep, to pay up or lose the $24,081.13 they claim I have paid. My option is to stop payment and accept 174 days of coverage, so says the "customer service" rep. I asked to receive this information by email as well as in a letter to be mailed to me at my postal address. At this date, I have received nothing. When and if a class action suit is initiated, count me in. Genworth's goals and objectives are perverse. Genworth is a company focused exclusively on blind greed. Genworth's behavior is criminal.
We also just received the rate increase by 50%. Unbelievable! 7yrs no increase ever and then hit with 50% jump. This seems criminal to us and I will be looking into this. What's the point of buying LTC insurance if they price you out before you can use it. Our agent said the same to us as all of you, no increase, locked in price. Buy now while you are young and healthy because the premiums go up every year if you don't lock it in. I will be calling DA office to start with. This just is not right to those of us who try to do the right thing in protecting our families.
Genworth Financial sold a number of its LTC contracts with assurances of their sales people in their presentation that the contract was as good as gold since it was backed by General Electric. A big factor in our decision to use Genworth as our LTC carrier. Years pass, the only correspondence we receive is our annual bill. A few years ago that all changed. Our premiums were increased. The COLA provision was removed and the benefit amount was capped at its value at the policy year end. That amount was in excess of $600,000 dollars.
Knowing LTC costs were increasing and knowing it at the time we purchased our contract the 5% increase in benefit payments was an important part in our decision to purchase a LTC with Genworth. I asked if there would be any more premium or other contract changes in the future. I was told "no" this would be it and not to worry Genworth was safe. A year has passed and we just received our annual premium notice. The new premium has increased by about 25%. This was accomplished by reducing the number of years of benefit payments from 10 to 6. A 40% decrease in benefits.
Genworth has its struggles, but the draconian measures being used against its LTC policyholders is to shore up its financial problems is not fair or moral. Many of us who purchased LTC when we were younger and in good health are being punished now for making a decision to protect our families assets by trusting Genworth and GE. I have to say that trust has been broken. My wife and I counted on Genworth to be our partner in making sure we could leave an estate to our children and grandchildren without having to worry about the cost of LTC in our twilight years. Now that the time is nearing that one of us will need to call on our "partner" to fulfill the promise they made to us. Their answer will be, "We still will give you the same reduced coverage from the last premium increase, but the price has gone up 58%. If you want to pay the premium we will pay you about half of what we promised."
If as of today this company is still trying to sell LTC contracts my advice is "just say no". This company is unfair, has a strategy or acts like it does to push people out of their contracts to survive or sell. Where are our State Insurance Departments? I truly hope they are looking at Genworth's ability to pay its claims long term. I am very, very concerned for my family and all of the other thousands of families being penalized because Genworth's actuaries did not price their product correctly when they issued them.
Unless they head in the sand did they not see the statistics regarding longer life expectancy, an upsurge in LTC use about the time these contracts might be used? Everything an experienced actuary needed to make reasonable pricing projections certainly was readily available. One might start to think. Could it be good marketing to sell the concept of buying young at a lower premium and saving money and not stressing the fact we really don't know what our claims experience will be? I feel as if I have been taken advantage of by Genworth. Don't let it happen to you.
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6 years ago when my wife and I took out our long term health policy, we were told that this premium would never increase. Having paid the same for the past 6 years we just received our renewal with a 60% increase. This is criminal. I of course will stop paying into this company since nothing is to stop from continuing to increase premiums and the policyholder can kiss all of their money goodbye.
My husband has been struggling with a long-term, degenerative, terminal illness called Multiple Systems Atrophy for about four years. One of the symptoms is a habit of falling over backwards. About a year and a half ago I called Genworth, wanting to activate the policy to obtain a stair climber. They said that he wasn't eligible, because he didn't fail 2 of the 6 ADLs. I asked if he would have to fall backwards down the stairs to become eligible, and they responded, "yeah, pretty much."
Six months later he fell backwards down the stairs, putting his head through the drywall at the landing. He was then eligible for his long term care benefits. They qualified him for the stair climber, 7 day a week care, or care in an assisted living facility in January. In May they sent out a nurse to see how he was doing. A month later they told me that he is now "capable of independent living" and cut off the benefits. Keep in mind that Multiple Systems Atrophy only goes one way: a slow, agonizing decline until death. I have now filed an appeal and contacted a lawyer.
This is not the picture they painted ten years ago when they sold us the policy. We have been paying them a stiff premium for ten years that has increased over and over again. We shouldn't have to fight them for the benefits that he deserves at the worst time in our lives, but there it is. My lawyer said that they do this because they can. They hope that I will be too tired or sad or sick to fight it. They think that the storm of paperwork and stalling will beat me, but they don't know yet. I am the storm.
Writing in for the individual I care for who took out a policy 15 years ago. Was recently diagnosed with Alzheimer's Disease. After months of phone calls and paperwork they refuse to pay for any home care which is provided for in the policy. This person is unable to live alone but is early for institutional care. Why should I keep paying premiums??? I am wondering if they are going to decline assisted living and memory care? They also tried to pass a bogus increase along last year. This company is not in my opinion honest. They are not in the long term care business. They are in the collect premiums and refuse desperate customers care business!
My mom took out her LTC policy with Genworth in her early 60's. Her policy has lifetime benefits and covers dementia. Her husband died ten years ago and she was not safe to live on her own. I filed a claim for her and moved her into an assisted living near myself. Genworth sent out a nurse to investigate and her claim was approved based on her dementia. They've been good about sending a check every month that covers $60 per day. Now, suddenly, 9.5 years later they called me about her. They asked a bunch of questions about her activities of daily living. She is 89yo in two weeks. She can still bath, dress and eat. Her problem is she has dementia. She can't remember anything and would be lost in a second. They ask me if she's confused and I think I said not exactly, she just can't remember anything!
She's not safe to live alone, can't drive a car, cook, or go anywhere alone. I got legal guardianship about 8 years from the courts because I was concerned about someone trying to get access to her estate. It was granted. Because I said she wasn't confused all the time Genworth is now wanting to come out and investigate again. I'm busy all the time, work two jobs, take mom to doctor appts, spend time with her etc. I don't want Genworth harassing her. It makes her angry and makes her angry at me.
I think they are just trying to cause problems because they don't want to pay her claim. It's a lifetime policy. She could go on another ten years. I had always been happy with Genworth, but I'm really angry about this. They agreed to talk to her neurologist and PCP, so hopefully maybe that will put this to rest. If they cause problems I'm going to file a complaint with the insurance commission and talk to moms elder attorney. My stress level is really high now because of this.
Just received the announcement for mine and my husband's renewal for September 2017 and the rate has increased 70% (this is their stated percentage in the letter). So now what? After paying into this for many years, with increases right along, do we cancel this and lose everything we invested? Or do we continue and expect more rate increases? It doesn't seem like this is a reliable company anymore in paying claims but at our age, (76 and 72) we're stuck. This is just wrong!
My Mom bought a LTC policy 25 years ago - back then they were all called nursing home policies. Even though the policy provides for custodial care - now referred to as assisted living - they won't honor the policy because she is not housed in a nursing home proper. A former Genworth employee said that years ago the company sent out letters about the change in coverage (to allow for assisted living) and it was presented as an opt out option. Of course nobody opts out. But they won't admit they did that. Does anyone have experience with the nursing home policy argument?
The claims admin at the assisted living facility says she can confirm at least one other person in house has same policy and it was eventually approved but HIPPA prevents sharing specifics. So frustrated by the run-around. It's been crazy. The claim was denied before they even had all required paperwork from facility - a sure "tell" of how it would be. Since then - I have been passed around by one individual after another who isn't qualified to answer questions or be accountable. Scoundrels. It is a system designed to be inefficient without a means for resolution. Either genius or pure stupid - neither is good.
My mother had a Genworth policy for over twenty years. Recently she became ill and we filed a claim. After four-plus months of foot-dragging plus dozens of phone calls to an agent who never answered the phone and took days to call back, the claim was approved today. Unfortunately, Mom died yesterday. The agent told Mom that she had a one hundred day exclusion period for home health care. This was untrue. Mom spent the last four months of her life worried sick and not getting the care that she needed because Genworth did not fulfill its promises.
I have experienced the same overnight predatory premium increases described by most previous posters. I was offered the same unsatisfactory 3 options as all, and I declined them all. My policy was then terminated by Genworth due to "Lack of Premium Payment". After a long exchange of correspondence with Genworth, they finally threw me a bone, they offer to pay benefits up to the amount of premiums paid during the life of the policy (in my case $ 40,000+). This measure is not in any way part of the policy I bought. It is a newly suggested offer (apparently made to all who persisted long enough in their complaining).
The fact that no provision for this exists in the purchased policies suggests that this may constitute an acknowledgment of unusual conduct by Genworth when they increased the premiums with no guarantee that it would not be repeated at any time. At any rate, a Class Action Lawsuit has now been started (Dec 28, 2016) on the exact topic addressed by most posters in this blog. It accuses Genworth of a hoax.
My husband and I purchased two long term care policies when I was 43 and he was 58. Since we were purchasing two policies to cover each of us we were told that if we both lived for seven years after the signing date that my premiums would then be free of charge. We rolled the dice and agreed to the high cost of both policies but felt we were in good shape for the next seven years. When it came time to sign the final documents I did not see this rider language in the policy. Stan assured me that it was there and not to worry. My husband had purchased a life insurance policy from him years back and we felt we had a good relationship so we trusted him. He even called my husband each year on his birthday which we thought was very nice.
When I turned 50 we asked Stan about my fees now dropping due the fact we had lived seven more years, luckily. He said he did not know what we were talking about and he never said that. We were shocked to say the least. We thought we were two intelligent business people doing the best we could to prevent the worse but felt stupid we had been taken for a ride. We still have the policies and now Genworth has sent us a notice that our bill is increasing (once again) now by $500 annually. Thanks so much for the customer service Gen once again!! Luckily, we are still healthy and I'm searching desperately for a new carrier. Long story short - read the fine print and don't trust what the salesman tells you otherwise. And if you do, and he calls you on your birthday, hang up.
Repeating what everyone else has written. Bought the policy from our broker at Morgan Stanley and was told that the premiums would not go up. We all know what happened. Between my wife and I, $50,000 down the drain. Customer service (very nice operator, with a hard job, so that why I gave five stars. She was polite and helpful as one can be when reading a script) tells me to suck it up as their agents sometime told people things that were untrue. Why is someone not suing this company?
For quite a while, I have had grievous concerns about Genworth Financial. Besides having increased their premium rates, they have a history of being late in paying claims. My last claim, which was due for reimbursement on May 12th, is now ten days late, and, no response from my most recent inquiry. On top of this, they have also violated my rights under HIPPA and have harassed myself and some of my care providers. The bottom line, I believe the company is failing and if the takeover by China Oceanwide does not happen, people are going to be hurt very badly. Not only that, they continue to sell these policies!
Got my new statement for 2017 and the three-year plan, (I once had the four-year) has risen in the Dallas area by $500. I guess the industry knew this and so they fashioned their 2016 choices. So many of us would make a mistake and choose the three-year plan over the four-year plan by mixing them up on the choices we could make. I sure wish the State Insurance Agency would investigate their practices. I just need to vent my frustrations.
We have all experienced the recent 50%+ increase in Genworth LTC insurance premiums since they were purchased by China Oceanwide. Each of us has two senators and one congressman. Write them and encourage legislation to help those of us who feel we've been misled. One point to make, if you read the fine print, even if you discontinue premiums, you still get some very limited coverage up to the cost of the premiums you paid to that point.
GE Capital sold me the policy (2000); Genworth bought GE Capital. When I bought I was told the premiums would not increase. I bought what I believed was a fixed benefit plan and I self insured the remainder of the cost. The insurance company cost would never go beyond the amount of the fixed benefit - so if nursing home costs have doubled, all beyond the fixed benefit I pay for - nevertheless, my premiums have doubled!!! Also, the executive salaries at Genworth in this same period have gone up substantially - proving there is little austerity inside Genworth.
It is robbery and the reality is that anyone reading these stories will never buy Genworth. I would not advise anyone to purchase any long term care because there is no guarantee how much increase in premium there might be. Who would buy something not knowing the price? If they tell the premium will not increase - do not believe them. It is lies and it can go up.
Looks like everyone here has the same experience. The agent who sold the policy assured me that I was locking in a lifetime rate. Massive increases every year for the 5 or so I've had the policy. I'm 53 and, as long as I stop wasting money on these **, am lucky enough to have enough money to self-insure. I've given them over $15,000 and have renewed the policy for the last time.
I have had Genworth Long Term Unlimited Care Policy since March 1999. I have had price increases since then... my question is, if and when I go into an ALF, what if Genworth is out of LTC or sells out to another company, will they continue to honor my unlimited policy?
After paying the premiums for this policy for many years, I was served notice that my premium would increase 56% overnight. If I fail to pay the much higher premium, I lose coverage or suffer vastly decreased benefits. This was not what was represented to me when I signed up for it. An increase that huge is simply criminal.
I bought my GE Long-term Insurance policy in 2004 and continued with it for 13 years. I just got the notice of a premium increase of 15% coming up in May 2017. There has been a steady increase in premiums every year of 15% every June going back to 2014 that I can verify. This is a slow creep to an ever higher premium, that will eventually become overwhelming for many people. I purchased the bare bones of the coverage years ago and can't really afford to pay such a premium and go down to a lesser benefit. It would hardly be worth the effort and money. I haven't had much contact with them to describe their customer service.
My wife and I joined Genworth Financial Long Term Care Insurance in 2008 when our ages were 60 & 59 respectively. We thought this was a good investment in our future and a way to protect our family from LTC expenses later in life. After paying our annual premiums faithfully for the past 9 years, with no claims, investing approximately $50K in Genworth's coffers, fast forward to 2017 when Genworth presents us with a 50% increase in premiums with a promise of future increases to come. This coupled with consumer reports from several agencies that Genworth does not respond to or honor claims, pending class action suits against their management, dropping stock prices, and purported buyout by a Chinese firm makes us wonder if whatever is left of Genworth will even be there to honor our claims when needed.
Now, like many, we're between the proverbial rock and hard spot -- step up to the rate increases and hope we have LTC insurance when we need it or walk away from our $50K investment and hope for good health. Since I've suffered a heart attach in the past year and my wife has Parkinson's, it's highly likely that one of us will require LTC as we move into our 70s.
Personally this looks like an attempted money grab before the sellout or bankruptcy announcement. Shame on the Texas Insurance Board for approving this rate increase, of course all those insurance agents who assured us this was the way to go will also get a 50% commission increase for all who continue making payments. So your agent will assure you that paying the increased premiums to the way to go -- greed rules. State and Federal agencies grant these huge rate increase because they are scared to death of these LTC insurance firms failing and leaving the burden to government programs. I believe Genworth will continue rate increases to force its aging member base out before they accrue any claims. Our future looks a lot less secure than it did a month ago.
I have read through many of these comments/reviews stating some of the same issues we have had with Genworth's original 'promise' of locked in rates but now faced with a 70% increase this year (3/17). My question is - has anyone found a way to fight this? I feel we are stuck - already paid many years of premiums and would lose a lot if we cancelled - BUT, if we don't cancel, we pay even more - and HIGHER premiums - and maybe not even get the benefits we've been paying for. I don't even trust that Genworth will honor the claims when and if we get to the point we need to file a claim. What's the solution?
We bought a long term care policy in April 2007. Received notice in Feb 2015 that our rate was going up from $190.59 to $214.99 on 4/27/15; Genworth did automatic withdrawal from our bank acct so I didn't pay much attention. UNTIL... we received notice again that our rate was going up again in 2017 from 214.99 to $253.47. Well I had just been looking at my acct online and the last payment they automatically pulled out of our acct was $365.57. When I called them they claimed they have never taken more than what was sent to me on the paperwork. They wanted to see my bank statements to prove it. After investigating, they have been pulling "extra money" out of my acct since May 2011!!! That's $8088.32.
I have sent them the paperwork to investigate this and if they are a legit company, they will refund me the money. March 1, 2017 I cancelled the automatic withdrawal from our acct and am currently investigating a more reputable company. Suggest others keep an eye on your account if you're doing automatic withdrawal!!
I am a single woman age 63, soon to be 64 and took out this policy in 2009. I have paid on it as agreed and it has been a struggle as I am a working professional but the extra policy was a strain on my budget. I, like others, was told my rates would never increase and if they should it would be very minimal, and this is what was so attractive to me. I work in the healthcare business and have seen our geriatric population pay on policies for years only to discover when they need it the policy has devalued so that only a fraction of the cost if covered.
The agent was very diligent to show me the "expected" progression of costs vs payments. Like others I was told, "New policyholders would bear the burden of any large increases that would occur." I know health care has obviously increased. I work the business but my policy has increased hugely, almost 50%!! Who can work that into a budget that is already on a fixed income with the expectation I didn't need to worry about this going up so significantly? Now we are being told Genworth is being acquired by "China Overseas" (something like that) and how they are putting a billion dollars+ into the company for the "stockholders benefit."
Why can this money not offset the increase in premiums to the elderly people who have paid and now have promises broken and trust certainly broken? Why can the new, younger policyholders still in prime of life with income increases still to come not bear the burden of the increases as we were led to believe? What kind of ethics can be expected now? I have always sung the praises of Long-term Care and Genworth but will not going forward. I do still believe LTC is necessary but not at these costs. I also want to know what percent of my payments could be repaid so I can invest privately to gain interest and pay privately for LTC if necessary.
At the premium amount I have paid yearly, the interest would be great and my return greater. Now I am left with nothing and have never filed a claim and may never have to. I know when I retire I will not be able to continue payments so I am caught in a huge dilemma with a big decision and huge monetary loss that may be just out the window and my money has only gone to pay for others care and line the pockets of executives and stockholders! Very very disappointed.
My 93 year old dad, veteran of WWII and Vietnam, now has dementia and requires in home care. He has paid Genworth for over 20 years and now is being stonewalled on his claim. I'll keep this short. My advice to anyone looking into buying a LTC policy... Look elsewhere as Genworth are cheats.
We have been Genworth long term care policyholders for 15 years. When we signed on in early 2002 the insurer, then GE Capital, touted they never ever raised their rates for existing policyholders. Although the LTC salesman did say it was possible for a rate increase at some point in the future, I was lead to believe any increase would be modest and new policyholders would have to pay higher premiums if there was a demand for more revenue.
Two years ago I adjusted the terms of our LTC policy to avoid a 20% rate hike. Last year, however, another 20% rate hike was announced, which we reluctantly paid. Now for 2017, yet another 15% rate hike has been announced. Genworth also reports future rate increases are likely. Many long term LTC policyholders also question if they are being priced out of their policies with Genworth. I do not feel that I can continue trying to keep up with the escalating costs. A refund of the many thousands of dollars we have spent on Genworth premiums would be more satisfying than the paid in full LTC policy option. At the age of 67 I could be better prepared for LTC investing the money for self-insurance. Any ideas on how long-term policyholders can obtain a refund of their premiums would be appreciated.
I purchased a Genworth LTC policy in 2011 and recently received a notice of a 50% rate increase. After reviewing the many complaints about Genworth I will be joining any class action suit that comes up. I was promoted this policy by an Edward Jones representative and was wondering if others experienced the same source in acquiring this policy? It sounds very much like we are being duped completely. Keep me posted please.
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