AKC Dog Breeders

We noticed early on that he was thinner and weaker than any puppy we had known. We suspected perhaps he had been tranquilized for the trip and that is how we justified in our minds that he was so disengaged. We were wrong. We should have trusted our guts. He threw up all of that day and continued to throw up every 2 hrs or so until I took him to our vet at 9am Monday. Our vet expressed concern and the dog subsequently tested positive for Parvo. He was very ill and we cared for him 24/7 for the entire week, including IV fluids and anti nausea meds.

Certificate of Veterinary Inspection that we received has our name, vet name, breeder name. However, the data on the dog itself was incorrect. The Certificate of Veterinary Inspection states the puppy's DOB is 7/29/20 when everything else that was given to us by the breeder or posted on her website says it is 8/5/2020. A week's difference. The Certificate of Veterinary Inspection states the puppy was to be shipped on 10/8/20 when it was actually 10/10/20. The Certificate of Veterinary Inspection states the puppy was being shipped via air cargo when we actually physically picked him up ourselves from employee, Lory at the Sinclair station south of Cedar City, Utah.

All of this is suspect to us. We do not want to believe the worse and have done what we can do try to gain understanding from the breeder but, it appears we were issued and paid for a fraudulent health certificate so that the breeder could send us home with a sick dog. We can't reach any other conclusion in our minds as we have tried to give the breeder the benefit of the doubt and we have tried to communicate with the breeder but, she will not engage in a conversation about what has happened. I do not know if this has happened to others.

The health guarantee Color Country Aussies issues is a joke. We took our puppy to our vet within the 48 hr time frame Color Country Aussies stipulates in order to not render the guarantee "null and void". Not to mention, you are required to feed your puppy the food that she likely receives a commission on, in order to keep the guarantee in effect. Which, as we have discovered, is really no guarantee at all even though we have held up our end of the bargain. The breeder currently has 26 puppies listed for sale on puppyfind.com so, I'm sure she is very busy.

When I mentioned it was against state law, Amy immediately told me to find another breeder and refused to sell me the puppy. I was willing to pay a flight nanny to take the puppy home at 8 weeks, but she refused to work out the issue, would not talk on the phone and ignored my texts. This was extremely inconvenient for me because I had already paid for puppy classes and deferred my part time masters degree studies to care for the puppy. Also, I was very excited to take home the puppy in just a few weeks. Overall it was not a good experience and I don't recommend working with them.

I have documented evidence from 2 veterinarians where she was told she would refund the cost of puppy and transportation. I have evidence that my puppy was sick 3-5 days prior to delivery. He was transported by Cody Owner of Roaming Lab farms. Cody told me that my puppy was carsick and just needed a little food and water. The dogs smelled of vomit, Cody explained one of the dogs threw up from being car sick. Our Dog threw up a few hours after he was delivered. They knowingly delivered my critically sick puppy that couldn’t walk or hold his head up. FYI Several other puppies from the litter had hookworm and hookworm and giardia. My puppy had Intussusception and had over 2 feet of his dead intestines removed.

She said she could not otherwise guarantee I would get a female. I reminded her of our conversation, and she replied that there were now 2 other people ahead of me and that one of them had given her an extra $500 to guarantee a female. She also said the dog had all of her shots and was spayed – she said that twice. I said “spayed?” (These are pure-bred Goldens and shouldn’t be spayed). She said “no she’s not spayed” and launched into why young dogs shouldn’t be spayed (interesting diversionary tactic). I felt sucker punched.

When we got off the phone, she sent me pictures of the older dog with the message “I won’t eat your leather shoes.” I sent her back a text saying that I would like to stick to our original agreement and asked her to confirm that we still had the agreement. I did not hear from her for a week. On the advice of a friend, I sent her a text asking her to please contact me within two days to let me know if she was breaking our deal or if it was still on. I was particularly nervous because she lives 4+ hours away which is a long way to go to not get a puppy. She called me and told me that since we had made our deal she had gotten many calls for puppies with offers of more money. She asked if she could think about what she wanted to do and get back to me in a couple days.

From her constant talk about money, I had a pretty bad feeling what was going to happen. She sent me a text in two days saying she was sorry but she was not going to have a puppy for me. I sent her a text saying that I was horrified at what she was doing and if she had told me to give her an extra $500 in the first place, I would have. She misunderstood my text and called me immediately saying if I send her an extra $500, she would “drop the other breeder.” Wow. Just Wow. Of course, I recognized it for what it was at that point. Get as much money as you can out of each person, and if there even is a litter, only a small number of people get a puppy.

So now I am back on the phone looking for a puppy, and one of the breeders told me that is not an unusual scam and sometimes ‘breeders’ take deposits from a huge number of people and then when those that were scammed call them, the ‘breeder’ says, ‘we don’t have anymore puppies available, but I will apply your deposit to the next litter.’ When I told her I was horrified at what she did, she said that the pregnant dog was bleeding so maybe no one would get a puppy! She blamed herself at first and later blamed me and even blamed God. My advice to anyone seeking a puppy is AVOID THE **! And be careful! There are a lot of unscrupulous people out there, and they are a lot sneakier than the warnings of puppy scammers that you read about!

What I have since learned from honest breeders is: be careful of people that ask for a deposit before the puppies are born, breeders that don’t follow up with you at all, and don’t give any reference to an application or paperwork. Also beware of breeders that claim to have many puppies available during the pandemic. It is really hard to get a dog right now, and there are a lot of scams! Also, beware of people that look at breeding as mainly a money maker and do not have another job. Lastly, just because they are on AKC Marketplace does not mean they are legitimate. AKC does not vet these people. They need to do a better job!

Results: AKC provides unethical kennels advertising space with rankings as if they hold the kennels to a specific level by offering special certifications. However, it appears that AKC simply sells certifications and advertisement space to kennels while not holding them to the high standards they claim. Furthermore, AKC offers a puppy finder service for a substantial amount of money and a do-it-yourself puppy finder (which I utilized) while distancing themselves from the certifications they have sold to kennels. Thusly, AKC makes money from kennels without regard to health and safety of the animals while making money on unsuspecting shoppers who are looking for a dog/puppy.

Example: 1. I contacted Karen ** at Power River Shelties in CA via email, who emailed me the application form. I emailed Cheryl ** the completed application. Ms ** emailed that she had one puppy available. I emailed if the puppy had special needs. Ms ** emailed that the puppy was "squished in uteri by siblings." I emailed Ms **, asking for clarification. Ms ** emailed that she was taking the puppy to the vet that same morning. I emailed and asked for an After Visit Summary and the results of the examination. Ms ** emailed "The vet gave a clean bill of health and normal lifespan although she had developmental issues..." but was improving.

I emailed Ms ** and asked what the vet meant by "developmental issues." Ms ** emailed, "She was a little slower getting on her feet and using strength but no issues now." I emailed a request to visit Power River Shelties and asked again for clarification on what "developmental issues" means in terms of a puppy. Since I had read about developmental delays in dogs, I asked about house-breaking. Ms ** emailed me a statement that since I was ignorant of how to care for a puppy that was 10 weeks old, she refused to sell me one.

Example 2. I emailed Kyrie Shelties in IA and asked about any available adult shelties. Tracy ** responded that she had a sheltie adult (Cola) available, and she asked for an informal application, which I provided via email. Ms ** emailed that she would send me photos of the dog. I emailed Ms ** a thank you (prior to receiving the photos) and stated that a friend would like to visit the facility. I asked if the dog had any special needs. Ms ** did not respond.

The contact states cash only is accepted for the remaining $1,100.00 due at pickup. Carrying that much cash around a stranger is dangerous no matter how many times you talk, text or if you meet in public. If the issue is transaction fees, she should raise the price to cover those costs. Using a bank for the $1,100.00 instead of cash encourages transparency and safety for both the consumer and business. A receipt ensures taxes are being paid at the state and federal level, AKC papers are not enough to prove this is happening.

We exchanged messages back and forth from 12/26 to 1/30 on a near daily basis, including while I was out of the country for a few weeks. I shared these pictures with my family, friends, and continued a dialogue with her about preparations for the puppy to join our family. On 1/31, she sent a long and usual message indicating she had fears of me dumping the puppy, leaving it in a crate all day, and if I was aware puppies pottied and needed time, love, and attention. It was full of grammatical errors and seemed to be written with emotion and haste.

She stated we never visited via phone unlike other buyers. This was not a condition in her contract. Since we communicated almost daily since the puppy was born, she gained my trust. I said I would be glad to visit with her and we spoke for 30 minutes. It was my opinion she seemed comfortable with me and my questions about food, protection from parvo, vaccinations, and a general conversation of getting familiar with one another.

I informed her my partner works from home, so our pup would not be crated often and would have freedom and companionship daily including traveling with us instead of being boarded at a vet. I had a witness to the full conversation present. I told her if it was developmentally appropriate, he could stay with the mother another week. She repeatedly apologized for offending me. I was not offended but refused to provide her with the validation she was seeking. I knew what she was doing.

Within 12 hours of our phone conversation, she indicated she had "prayed about it" and that I was the wrong owner and that I needed to do more breed research, something she never cared to ask me in our phone conversation. Baxter Family Pugs Facebook page posted the dog as resold with the sibling at 2:35pm the day after she broke contract. If she would have expressed interest in having the puppy join its sibling, I would have respected that. I suspect the deal to sell the puppies as a package had already been made when she sent the long text, but of course do not have a way to fully confirm. I'm basing my suspicion on the timeline.

She has every right to break her word; however, here are my recommendations to you as a potential consumer. The state of Oklahoma operates oscn.net so consumers can search public court records. Look for the last names ** and ** (also look for spelling Vicky ** in one record), review the records, and formulate your own opinion. Then ask yourself why the only traceable source of income going to a PayPal account is not in her name. I believe the operation is not in Checotah since a process server served her with legal documents in early 2019 at a different address. Apple tags her puppy pictures to Council Hill, Oklahoma. It is not too far away, but the emerging theme is a lack of transparency.

She became hostile when I informed her I would be in contact with my attorney. She told me to use the attorney of my abusive ex-spouse who is incarcerated for corruption and mocked me as a victim of domestic violence. Think about the character of a person who mocks domestic violence. My attorney encouraged me to inform the public about my experience differentiating fact and my opinion as well as the American Kennel Association, among others. John and Vicky ** recently emailed asking me to "cease and desist" from slandering them (they meant libel, slander is verbal) and that "the law is on our side" to silence me. I had to have my attorney contact them directly to address the fact they are seeking to silence public knowledge of her actions outside of her controlled platforms and attempting to place a chilling effect on public discourse.

According to the AKC, they do not endorse any breeders on the Marketplace. Where is the accountability then? In my opinion, the AKC Marketplace is little more than a yard sale breeders pay to post on. The state of Oklahoma only regulates breeders with 12 or more females. It appears Vickie ** only owns 11 females. A breeder having under 12 females interestingly eludes any state oversight. 2/13/20 was the first time I saw a review outside of a controlled platform praising them as breeders. That satisfied customer also tagged my name to my place of employment attempting to undermine my professional competence the same day on the same platform. I do not think those two things are a coincidence. I think they are retaliation. Vickie then called my place of employment to complain about me. Retaliation much? These people are the underbelly of society. Housekeepers should stick to cleaning, not breeding.

Ask yourself why there is no Google review page. Ask her for customer references and veterinarian contact information to confirm care visits. Contact the Oklahoma Secretary of State's office to try and find Baxter Family Pugs as a registered business. I could not find it or any other active LLC she is operating under. On its face, the operation was heavily insulated from any form of unrestrained public discourse until this month. I believe she intentionally tried to hurt me as much as possible to sell the dog as a package to another customer and sent emails to silence me from engaging in my constitutional right to free speech to inform the public of my experience. I believe she thought bringing up my ex-husband's public corruption case would embarrass and silence me. She was wrong. The retaliation I have experienced for speaking out this week is chilling to say the least.

I am so disappointed in the AKC. I thought the AKC Marketplace was safe. Having people demand thousands in cash is not safe. I would not wish for anyone to have the experience I have had with Vicky and John **/Baxter Family Pugs. At a minimum, ask for references, complete a background check on your breeder, and pause for thought if you see something unusual such as demands for large sums of cash in lieu of traditional banking practices.

My puppy was delivered with a bottle of massive doses of an antibiotic concoction so they KNEW this puppy was sick when she was sold. It took several months and approximately $500 in vet bills before any improvement was shown. I was also contacted by someone who saw my post and also purchased a sick puppy from Happytails. I do not want anyone else to go through what I have been through with my puppy from Happytails. I paid $1625.00 for a mixed breed puppy that was not what was advertised. They also advertise that all of their puppies are microchipped, which is also not true. They have given me 2 different birth dates for my puppy.

I have found several other negative reviews from Happytail customers who have had a similar experience. Happytails is being reported to the North Carolina Better Business Bureau and the North Carolina Attorney Generals Office. Happytails offered a small refund if I would agree to delete my review and sign a Release of Liability Agreement! Please make sure you get a healthy puppy from a reputable breeder who has health tested the puppies' parents.

When we were initially speaking to her she promised that each pup came with a toy they enjoyed, a blanket that smelled of home and a crate. My pup came with none of those things. She did come with a pipe cleaner embedded in the fur around her neck! Most breeders and rescues will use something to identify a pup or kitten but a pipe cleaner?? She's too cheap to get a break away collar? Speaking of fur she was a full body matt and very difficult to brush as she'd clearly never been brushed before. She told us she would be at least partly house trained and fully pad trained. She wasn't, at all. We'd been told she was tested and treated for any parasites or illness a minimum of twice but to watch out because they were farm dogs, she did in fact have giardia, and was underweight according to the vet.

Most breeders from what I understand try to get pups used to new situations and sounds at a young age to socialize them at the critical time for it. Considering that we spent months socializing this puppy so she'd stop panicking when a tall guy walked by or because something moved I highly doubt she did anything with these pups.

We had tried to message her about these things and the only reply we got was to ask about whether we spayed her, she asks because she said we'd only get papers for AKC if we spayed her. We did but never offered proof as at this point because I didn't care anymore, and she sent us the AKC papers anyways. Because the of state this pup was in it makes me uncomfortable to say I got her there because at this point I don't even want to promote her. She does have some stomach problems, I'm not sure if its just bad luck or having had giardia for who knows how long before we got her and whatever else she went through before we got her. Just please do research and insist on meeting the parents and see what kind of state the home is in first!

I have 3 days before the time runs out. He told me that I would get the insurance money back once puppy was delivered. I just was worried that my puppy was at this shipper office. So I sent Western Union transfer to Eric. Then next day he tells me that the wood crate that pup was in was not good enough and I need to rent a crate. So I Western Union another 570 USA dollars. Then Eric calls me and says that Western Union canceled the transfer. That I needed to go and get money back and Moneygram it. I email the breeder and told him what was going on and why did I get charged all this extra money when breeder told me that puppy had all its shots and papers and that they ship puppies all the time. Why was the crate bad that he sent puppy in.

Thomas the breeder tells me, "Don't worry. Everything is ok. This is normal. USA changed some laws and ways so there is nothing to worry about and just pay the fees so you can get your puppy there with you." I just wanted my puppy. I was blinded and trusted the breeder's words. I searched online on the breeder's website and it looked so legit. They had least 8 to 10 happy customers. I fell off it and I just want you to be aware that Woody Bully Gang is a scam. I been calling shipper since yesterday after I sent Moneygram. No answer. I been emailing breeder no reply. Then I get a email from shipper. He tells me that my puppy arrived in Toronto and cause he from USA Canada airport is going to keep puppy in quarantine to make sure it's healthy for 2 months.

Or I can send 850 USA to him shipper and I will get money back once I take puppy to the vet and get a healthy certification and then I can have money refunded. Now I know that I am being milked for all he can get out of me. It's my fault to be so dumb and keep sending them money. But told Eric the shipper I want prove that my puppy is in Toronto and want a phone number to call the airport and ask them if they have my puppy. Now again no reply. I have lost over thousands dollars and I don't want no one else to lose money. Beware of Woody Bully Gang breeder. His name is Thomas **. The shipper is Eric ** and phone number is **.

The dog was fine all evening on Sunday, Monday I took him to my son's baseball game then came home. That night, I did notice the dog puke a little when he was outside on the leash but I did not think it was anything to be concerned about. That night and into Tuesday morning, he seemed fine. Once I got home Tuesday afternoon, I initially thought the pup was asleep as he was laying there so peacefully that it wasn't until I went over to try and wake him up that I had learned he had passed. He was extremely stiff which is indicative that he had been dead for hours. He was exactly 8 weeks on Tuesday. There was nothing out of the ordinary except a small pile of vomit about the size of a golf ball in his cage. No evidence of diarrhea, no foam or saliva from his mouth. Nothing.

There was a handful of dog food I had put out in the cage because I had learned from the day before that he liked to sling the bowl around and play with it which caused the dog food to be everywhere. There was nothing there out of the ordinary. Nothing chewed or torn up and it simply looked like the pup laid down and went to sleep. No signs of struggle or distress. At that time, the breeder was contacted who informed us that he had to have an autopsy of the dog to determine why it died. In the contract, it states that we are required to have the dog taken to the vet within 48 hours of purchase and to inform them of any health conditions. However, we DID NOT even get a chance to take the dog to the vet before it died within 48 hours of having it!

At 6 oclock when the ER Vet opened, he was taken down there to see what we could do. We were informed then that the only place for a "necropsy" was at Ohio State and it was estimated to be around $1500. After informing the breeder his response was "Well it has to be done so I can know how he died". In the contract, it states he was handed over to us in good health. I, nor multiple people I have consulted with have agreed this was the case. What. So. Ever.

The next day, the Owner of DK's Rottweilers informed us that he would give $800 off another pup but he only had remaining females in this liter. That would mean, $1000 for another dog. Not including the food, items for the dog, travel time and other expenses we had put out for the dog that was now dead with no known cause. Most importantly, A heart broken 5 year old that couldnt figure out why his puppy died! After adding it up, we had spent close to $2500 on a dog with NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. Yet he said he was doing us a favor and HE WAS LOSING $800 on a another dog by offering this to us instead of paying $1500 for a necropsy that was required by him YET refused to pay for?? I politely asked him to reconsider and replace the dog for my son or give us our money or atleast HALF the money back since I did pay a nonrefundable $300 deposit on the dog. He declined.

Despite being upset over his absurd offer, I let him know how unacceptable this was and how as a "reputable breeder", he should stand good behind his pups and his business. He THEN was stuck on this story of the dog choking on his food. He tried to tell me I purchased large breed adult dog food that was squared and a choking hazard (when I purchased large breed PUPPY food that was round). I sent him a picture of the food the day he died which was obviously NOT squared. He then asked me if I had essential oils in my house because they can be toxic to dogs. (No I do not use essential oils) He states he did not know if my kids fell on the dog or if he got into something toxic in the home.

I have a one year old, who I MAKE SURE I keep toxic items out of reach not only for him but for a dog as well. I have a 9 year old Shih Tzu! This is not my first go around with kids or dogs yet he tried to tell me everything he thought could have killed the dog instead of taking ownership of the situation and that the dog that he sold us died within 48 hours of purchase. After sending him a pictures of the dog food bag being ignored for over 12 hours after reading the messages, I asked him if he was now going to ignore me. He said "I'm not ignoring you, I'm done listening to your rants and I told you what I could do". What kind of business owner and "reputable breeder" that GUARANTEES on his business page and to his customers that he breeds healthy, well maintained dogs does this type of thing?

As a customer, I have every right to review the business "DK'S Rottweilers" and the business owner Devin McKamey. I also plan to make it known as a customer how UNSATISIFIED I have been by his business and the way(s) he tried to help resolve this situation. Tuesday night, my son looked up at the stars and pointed to them stating his dog was a star in the sky and was now in Heaven. He cried himself to sleep. He made me watch multiple videos on Youtube of the Rainbow Bridge. -To see your 5 year old go from ecstatic and so happy over a dog to absolutely heart broken with no answers would make any mother upset.

Showing is all about money, not really about the best dog. You can hire a well known handler and win. Breeders will "make their own majors". You need majors to be a champion. A major is when your dog beats 3 or 5 other dogs. Breeders will bring 4 or 5 of their own dogs to a show they know will not have any competitors in their breed. They will have their friends show the dogs. Sometimes breeders who are friends with each other will do this.

If you want to check a suspect pedigree, you have to pay the AKC 500.00 to investigate and get the permission of the breeder in question to DNA their dog. Now the AKC has rescues listed on their website, they are including mixed breeds. One has to wonder why? Are registrations and show dollars down? What is an AKC registration worth and what are breeders willing to do? Someone I know reputation was destroyed online because of some AKC breeders who lied. Why do they do this? Money. They want you to believe their champion is better.

Personally, I do not think so because of what I have seen and been subjected to. I mean, when you think about it you have to ask yourself what does the AKC, and "rescues" have in common? They both rely on dogs breeding. So I do not believe you are getting a better dog just because of a registration. I think the biggest show breeders will do whatever they need to to win. My opinions... Take them or leave them. I have a lot of emails and other things to show anybody who will investigate.

This woman is incredibly unstable and I am now concerned for the safety of those puppies. The dogs are kept in a small area in the back side of her home. She had two hidden away in a small crate that was placed inside a large crate and draped with a blanket inside the dog's living area. She only pulled them out when they started making noise and we questioned why there were dogs hidden in there. She claimed the parents were onsite, but I never saw or heard an adult dog. She also pulled a random puppy out from her back room. She claimed to be keeping two of the hidden away puppies, but then told us how she could only have 9 breeding at a time.

I counted 5 litters by the time that visit was over.... Basic math skills tell me she is scheming the system and rules that exist. She is nothing more than a puppy mill claiming to be something else. The puppies were terrified of her. When she would walk over to the dogs, they would cower in a corner on top of each other. This woman should not be allowed to raise puppies. She shouldn't be allowed near any living creature. If someone spends the entire time badmouthing past customers, it's a red flag and you should get the hell out of dodge.

Because my testing had also shown that my dog was very heavily inbred on the mother's side, we realized that one of the breeder's other puppies which she had kept from a previous litter had sired at least some of the puppies in our dog's litter. We have had to go to the AKC, where the dogs' registrations will all be in question until every dog is individually DNA tested to establish parentage. Ms. ** does not offer guarantees for genetic conditions, but she does represent the dogs as having specific parents. My dog's condition was specifically caused when negligent breeding practices allowed an unintended dog to mate with his mother. Had the intended dog been the father, my dog could not possibly have inherited this disease.

There had been a written promise of a refund (less our original deposit) and that we could keep the dog. But after five months of stringing us along and slow-walking tests, Holly ** reneged on this, repeatedly threatening to take our dog back in the hope of getting us to relinquish our claim. After multiple tests and five months, the breeder still had not notified the buyers of the other dogs from this litter. We notified them ourselves when Ms ** severed contact with us. At least two of the other owners have since offered to help us fight Holly **, including one offer to assist with legal fees.

Fast forward 4 months. She just posted on her page (not contacting the owners of the situation privately) that the mother of her litter is a Malamute, not a Husky. I now have what she is claiming to be a glamour dog Alusky. I have tried to get compensation for the fact I no longer have a purebred Husky, but a mixed breed. She is claiming it was a mistake and turning the situation into her being the victim because I am reading through all of her lies and so-called mistakes.

I feel since he was under her care, she should have made some responsibility for him. My vet said to take him to a specialist. 02/26/19 the specialist said he had a hairline fracture in the front right leg elbow. The specialist said he could not do anything with it, because it had already healed. I was told by the vet that this injury had to be close to 4 weeks old to have healed. It did not heal in a week from me getting him. It's all good when you're making money. Initially I was interested in Calvin. Monica said he was spoken for. As of this complaint 03/05/19, Calvin is still available. I'm not interested in another dog. I love my little guy & would not give him up for anything.

Also, it shows he is AKC registered. I asked Monica about the paperwork. Monica said I would not get until he is neutered. She had Kaden listed on 3 sites. Not one site stated there would not be paperwork or that he is sold as a pet only. Only after I sent her an email stating the website was not listed that way, did she ad that the the listing of the other puppies. She lists on **. I didn't realize MO is a puppymill state, even though I was told after I purchased him. Monica always seemed to know exactly what to say or not say & made sure when texting, to say minimal or call so there was no proof. I did save the text messages & clipped the ads, though it probably won't do any good.

Deborah did not want any deposit for the puppy. She sent us photos and videos of the two puppies she had available, which were also amongst the pictures she has (and still has) posted on her website. We talked on the phone numerous times before the meeting date and we emailed each other numerous times before the meeting date. We talked on the phone the night before our meeting date. Everything was fine.

On Saturday, my husband and I drove six hours one way (it really took us almost eight because of an accident) to meet and hopefully purchase a puppy. We talked on the phone a few times during the drive. All was fine. When we arrived at Deborah's house, we also met her husband and sister, who seemed to also be part of the business as they were there the entire time.

We played with the male puppy for over an hour as we were asking questions and getting to know both breeder and dog. There had been an issue about a testicle not dropping that we knew about before, so I had a lot of questions. So Deborah said she had good news... that the testicle had dropped... and it was in the middle of those many questions that I had that Deborah finally dropped her pretense and told us that she couldn't do this any longer and she came clean that the dog we had been playing with for an hour was not the dog that we had come to see. That she had sold him the day before, and that this was a different dog. We were stunned.

There were a number of issues here - Deborah did not want a deposit or we would have gladly given one to hold the dog. She could have told us that she had sold the dog when we talked the day before. And prevented us from driving 12 pointless hours. We could have then decided if we wanted to drive down to see the other female dog that she said she had available. She could have told us the truth upon arrival! But no, she and her husband and sister lied and continued to try to pass off the new dog as the dog that we thought we were seeing... for an hour!!!

What would have happened when I compared the photos and videos I had??? The coloring was completely different but not something one would normally note until close scrutiny. How could three ADULTS lie??? When she finally came clean we were flabbergasted and didn't know what to do. Obviously this breeder was unethical? What else would she be lying about??? It was a very tense next hour, believe me. We had already made plans and arrangements for our new puppy; we desperately wanted a new puppy. So many conflicting feelings here.

We had spent two hours with the puppy; everything seemed fine and healthy with him. And I felt so betrayed and thought of us as rescuing a puppy from such an unethical and who knows what else home even though I was so afraid. What would our vet find if she lied about the puppy to begin with? We did bring the puppy home and everything has worked out so happily for the rescue of all of us. But it still bothers me that a breeder who has kudos from AKC was so unethical. She is posting and drawing in buyers by advertising dogs that she either no longer has or has no plans to sell. And lying to customers by trying to make us believe we have a dog then we really don't.

I wanted to write this review as weeks later, this is still gnawing at me. And I did not want anyone else to be unaware. I still cannot believe that a business and a human and a so called lover of dogs would stoop to these levels. Still so upsetting AND WRONG!!!

His number belongs to a Kimberly **. He told me his name is Nathan **. I believe he was lying to me. This whole experience was strange. I didn't show up to meet him in Tennessee because it's a very long drive for me and I felt like after speaking to him on the phone, he's a puppy mill breeder. I personally don't want a sick puppy who may end up dying on me days after buying him and taking him home to my family. I also couldn't afford expensive vet bills to try to get him better IF he was sick or he wasn't up-to-date on his shots or IF he was sick, I would have to get the puppy antibiotics.

His number belongs to a Kimberly Arnold. He told me his name is Nathan archer. I believe he was lying to me. This whole experience was strange. I didn't show up to meet him in Tennessee because it's a very long drive for me and I felt like after speaking to him on the phone, he's a puppy mill breeder. I personally don't want a sick puppy who may end up dying on me days after buying him and taking him home to my family. I also couldn't afford expensive vet bills to try to get him better IF he was sick or he wasn't up-to-date on his shots or IF he was sick, I would have to get the puppy **.

I've asked him multiple times if we could meet at his veterinarian's office, he kept telling me no, that him and his wife don't do that. If he had nothing to hide and if his puppies were really healthy like he says they are a check wouldn't have been a problem. Right? Please don't buy any puppy from him. Beware of breeders like him. All they care about is money, not the puppy or the buyer.

Anyway, at 2 1/2 years old he was put down because he stopped eating, and lost so much weight, he has no energy etc. His intestines had been twisted, and there was nothing they could do. The breeder had blocked me after I told them about his problems and bad knees. When I posted on their Facebook page about him having to be put down they didn't even respond. I easily spent $10,000 on trying to save him, that does not include the $2500 I spent to purchase the puppy. They didn't care at all. Didn't even say they were sorry.

This lack of interest in his animal's health before breeding them seemingly appears to have the markings of a puppy mill so should be reported as such. My pup's diagnosis is proof they are dogs being sold that are sickly as I have a cardiologist who will attest this disease was directly given to him through the parents of the pet. As he claims his dogs are healthy on a his kennel's web page when asked for any vet records or lack of them he is unable to provide them.

Our Beloved ACE is sick and will pass away soon because he claimed he could breed dogs with this disease. Many Dobermans were sold from the same parents, so many will die before their time. As he will continue to breed Dobermans and other breeds without with genetic diseases and people will continue to lose their pets to this horrid disease he should not be allowed to continue. As I can not make the owner humane or force him to take more interest in the health of the animals that he breeds just for money but I and others can surely can try and protect those animals from being bred and buyers from getting ripped off because his dogs are not healthy at time of purchase.