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This is a response to Tawnya of Pflugerville, TX: LifeSpas goes out of its way to help all our customers in the event of warranty issues and manufacturer defects. In this case, regarding a gazebo. The warranty clearly states that the parts are covered for 6 months from the manufacturer. (Note: Most manufacturers don't give warranty on gazebos.) LifeSpas does not manufacturer or warrant the gazebo, but it agreed to replace the roof panels to assist the customer, even though they were out of warranty. The 5-year warranty covers the gazebo's finish, not the parts.
The customer was negligent to report the finish warranty issue in a timely manner and had the product for approximately 2 years, which caused more damage. The retail list of the gazebo parts we offered, including shipping was approximately $1,500. We feel the customer is unreasonable, because LifeSpas does not warrant the gazebo, the parts are only covered for 6 months, the finish warranty does not cover parts, and the issue was not reported in a timely manner. Despite all this, LifeSpas was still willing to help out the customer.
After going back and forth many times, we wanted a claims release to be signed, because LifeSpas was going to be expending a large amount of money for something that was out of warranty.
We purchased our spa and gazebo in the summer of 2007 from LifeSpas Inc. for over $11,000 and after only two and a half years, the wood roof panels are rotting. We have been discussing this issue back and forth for 3 months now with the president/CEO of the company, Tim Horwood, only to get the run around. The gazebo came with a 5 year warranty which states, "This finish is warranted to be free from required refinishing for a period of 5 years but the warranty was with a manufacturer that has since gone out of business." Tim still has contact with him, and refused to give us his information so we could deal with him.
However, Tim creates his warranties and tells his manufacturers how to build his products, per his specs and sells the same exact gazebos today. We simply requested new roof panels or the money we paid for the roof (solid roof upgrade with Plastek coating) that was paid for initially. His initial off the table offer was he feels he's not legally responsible but he would give us $150 or sell us panels for $300 and we would be responsible for shipping and we would have to sign a release of claims.
The second offer came after me talking about going to the Better Business Bureau. He offered to pay for panels but we pay for shipping and we sign a release. His final offer was he pays for both panels and shipping if we sign the following release on everything we ever purchased with his company, Yah right! (see below the release was copied from his email to us) Also, he had the nerve to say if we wanted Plastek on the new panels which we had originally that it would be $100. We had agreed to sign a release for only the new roof panels but he declined our offer.
Release of Claims: In consideration of 8 solid upgraded roof panels with plastic wood finish with no warranty made to your measurements for a 9 ft lakeside gazebo and shipping the undersigned releases and discharges Lifespas, Inc. and all of its agents, officers, directors, shareholders, and employees from any and all claims, demands, actions and causes of action of any kind or nature what so ever which the undersigned has ever had, now has or may have in the future against Lifespas, Inc. arising out of the purchase of a spa, gazebo bar and bar stools, cover, step and bromine generator and any accessories or upgrades on or about 8/11//07. This release and the underlined settlement shall be treated as confidential and shall not be disclosed to any third party. The undersigned will refrain from any public disparagement of Lifespas, Inc. or its products.
It amazes me how after spending $11,000 with Tim's company that he treats his customers like this. My opinion is that he has very poor customer service skills and by him wanting us to sign off on everything we own, (which is still under warranty) only demonstrates that Tim is not confident that his products listed above will sustain the remainder of the warranty term. As well, I feel that he is feeling responsible and is trying to avoid any future conflicts.
We paid $4100 for a gazebo that is now rotting after 2.5 years, even after we paid extra for the Plastek finish that was supposed to be under warranty for 5 Years. We are not getting compensated at this time for the rotting gazebo. We would like now the cash $1240 that we paid for the solid roof upgrade with the Plastek that is now rotting.
After trying unsuccessfully to get our spa fixed from Burboa Mfg, Tim from Life Spas stepped in and bent over backwards to make things right. The problems with the spa were not the fault of Life Spas, and they stepped in and took care of us. Burboa went out of business and Life Spas came to our rescue. We're happy with the way things turned out and want to retract our initial complaint.
This is in response to Laura H.: The consumer has a right to complain, but not to falsely accuse or presume that Life Spas sold a defective product. As a company, we have gone above and beyond what most other spa companies would have done and have spent a lot of time, money and effort on our side to help resolve this customer's complaint. Life Spas values customer satisfaction with the highest regard. This issue has been the only one of its kind out of the thousands of hot tubs we have sold since 1995. Our equipment pack manufacturer has been in business since 1982 and stated they have never had any kind of incident with spa safety ever reported regarding their equipment.
Our spas and equipment meet or exceed the strict safety standards of UL and are ETL approved. We even go further than most companies and offer an option to have the GFCI's installed in the spa. In regards to the situation we sent out our service technician several times. The first couple of times the service technician went to service the spa, he did not see or feel that there was anything wrong with the spa. At the time the spa had a GFCI that was functioning as a safety mechanism. After encountering the issue we replaced the equipment package on the spa to ensure that it was not malfunctioning.
Some time after the customer called back about the same issue. After consulting numerous professionals in the spa industry: our equipment manufacturer, an electrical engineer, multiple service technicians and our spa factory, all pointed towards the problem being a home electrical issue with possible leakage in the ground. None of them suggested that the problem was with the electrical spa pack since it had been replaced twice. In addition, we have checked with the GFCI manufacturer which told us that the GFCI should trip if there is any electrical leakage. In this situation the GFCI wasn't tripping, which points to something other than the spa's equipment pack. The spa shell is thermoplastic, the plumbing of the spa is PVC, the frame of the spa is wood and the bottom of the spa has a plastic barrier, none of which conduct electricity.
Furthermore, when we replaced the equipment pack of the spa we essentially replaced the part that the electricity goes through, twice. We suggested that she have the electrical on her house checked out. She had the electrician who installed her spa wiring check out her electrical and he said everything was OK. After replacing the spa equipment pack again we had an independent licensed electrician, LM Electric license #838758, and they concluded that it was either the house's grounding or an electrical leakage in the ground, not the spa.
I've been holding off on writing a review for a while to make sure that everything remained great. It has. We bought a LifeSpa's LS6900 with the stereo and Bromine generator almost 1 year ago. We had owned a Jacuzzi prior to this which ended up getting blisters in the gel coat but it served us well for 10 years before starting to leak water from just about every connection possible. Also the hoses rotted and fell apart. I did some research and thought it would be great to support a local company, so I called and got an appointment. We weren't prepared for the sales approach used but after a while we realized that they were actually telling us some pretty interesting stuff about how spas are made, so we settled in for the presentation along with about 6 other people.
After about an hour and another hour talking about it we ordered one. It was 12/30/06. It was promised to us in 30 days. I was able to call and talk to people right in the manufacturing plant about things like switching the stereo and the Bromine generator and getting exact dimensions of where they were located. We have a low brick wall that I needed to make sure didn't get in the way. The spa came after just 3 weeks. Very professional delivery and no problem getting it to our back yard.
We had an electrician connect it and I filled it with water and bromine salt. It was ready to use that night! Everything worked perfectly and still does. We haven't had one problem with it. It is awesome! I haven't changed the water yet but I plan to in January at the 1 year mark. The chemical balance stays perfect. When we have a lot of people use it. I shock it with some dry shock chemical or else the Bromine level drops too low. My only complaint is that the spinner jets don't really spin but you don't need them to. The price seemed okay - not great but good considering the quality of the spa. I would definitely recommend a LifeSpa.
We were skeptical at first, especially since we drove over an hour to get to the appointment. But once we got there, we soon found out about the superior quality and pricing. We had shopped many different places before coming in. Other spa companies said we would have to crane in the spa, costing us hundreds of dollars. Life Spas was able to make it happen without a crane, saving us hundreds of dollars in addition to the savings on the spa. The thing I like most about my Life Spas Spa is that even after eight years, it's easy to keep clean.
It’s a week later and I’m still shaking my head. I went to a LifeSpas’ appointment, and what a shame. All they can tell you is how superior they are and put down other spa companies, but no printed information on them to prove it. They wanted a $100.00 deposit, but by the end of the appointment, they told me they would take $10.00. They have a spa they advertise, but it’s stuck upright in the dark so you can't see it. Stay home, do your research, and look elsewhere.
My hot tub began shocking us. We would touch the water and receive a light shock. It has been 7 months and they still have not fixed it...they keep giving me the runaround despite multiple electricians stating that there is nothing wrong with my electrical and it must be the spa. I was told they would not give me my money back.
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