
Mary of Ithaca, NY on Oct. 10, 2010
October 10, 2010 I found your address on a consumer affairs website. This post will be long as I want to accurately describe the situation. In August, less than 3 months ago, our old Tappan kitchen stove needed several parts and we were told it would take a long time to obtain them, and were otherwise discouraged from repairing. We were expecting houseguests and needed a working stove. So we decided to purchase a new Frigidaire range. Model no: FPGF3081KFB, serial no: VF93549735.
It was delivered promptly and we had happy expectations of the new stove with its convection oven, warming oven, pilotless ignition, and other features. It was hot weather so I didn't do much with the oven at first. 1) I noticed almost immediately that the front right burner did not always ignite as it was supposed to and that there was sometimes the clicking sound of the ignition system when burners were already in use and the control adjusted, not in the ignite position.
I called repair service and someone came. The problem did not replicate when he was present. He told me that there was no problem with the burners. He said what I was hearing was the various kinds of metals heating up on the stove top and that the burner would ignite it I was careful to exactly place the two little black plates on the top of the burner. He also informed me that I must be very careful to avoid ever allowing anything to boil over on the stove top as that would almost completely destroy the burner unit.
I wasn't very happy about any of this, but I accepted the information. I have been very careful, and so far successful in avoiding boil over's. I check the position of the little plates before turning on the burners. However, I continue to have occasional problems with the ignition of the right front burner. The little sparker flashes, the burner give off gas, but the gas does not ignite. If this were the only problem with the stove I could probably live with it, but I would not feel that I had purchased a good product. However, that was only problem no 1.
2) I tried out the warming oven feature and found it failed to meet expectations. It did not seem to provide adequate heat. I found this disappointing, but not serious. 3) I tried out the oven. I read the manual and understood that with the convection feature I should be prepared for much faster than usual cooking time. I did not find this to be true. The first batch of bread I made took forever to get done more than double the time I usually expect, closer to 2 hours than to 45 minutes. I did not at that time call repair service. I just tried to learn the quirks of the new stove and get it to work. I thought it was operating at a lower temperature than the readout said it was and started running the oven at a higher setting. Again, this was annoying, but not impossible to live with.
4) My mother-in-law came for a visit and attempted to demonstrate the family recipe for baked custard. This was when the stove really demonstrated its capacity to seriously malfunction. The custard recipe requires a long slow cooking time. But, the oven unit doesn't work properly at low settings. It gives off gas, but does not ignite. It releases quantities of gas, to the extent of creating noticeable odor throughout the house. This is a serious and dangerous problem. I feel concern that persons could possibly be asphyxiated and/or there could be an explosion when attempting to use the stove at a low setting. I am very disturbed at this problem. And of course, the food does not get cooked when gas is released but not ignited.
I called repair service and someone came - eventually. He explained to me that it was not possible for the stove to do what I said it was doing, that there was no way gas could be released and not ignite. I pointed out that three people had witnessed the behavior I was describing. He made a further examination of the stove and said that there was something wrong with some part of the oven ignition system and a valve. It made too loud a poof noise when igniting. He ordered a new unit. I was without an oven and purchasing bread for longer than I liked.
I called the dealer and said that I was unhappy with the stove and wanted it to be replaced or that I receive a refund. The dealer said I was stuck with it and told me an anecdote about an unfortunate experience he had had with a car dealer. After impossible negotiations and too much time off work for me, the repairperson came back and installed the part.
5) The repair company, apparently subcontracted by Frigidaire and the local dealer, are not at all good about setting appointments. The dealer attempted to expedite service, but called me on our landline at 2 in the afternoon to ask if someone could come the next morning. Of course, that was a message I received after 5 o'clock, when I returned from work, and could not return because there was no one at the store to receive the message until 9 the next morning. I had given my cell phone number as well as the landline, but no one bothered to call the cell number.
Eventually the repair contractor called and offered me impossible appointment times. We finally agreed that I would be home on Friday morning and someone would come then. However, I was called on Friday morning and informed that the service person would arrive between 2 and 4 in the afternoon. Therefore, I lost not only the mornings work but the afternoons as well unless I wanted to do without an oven for another week or more. The repair person came and installed the new part and assured me that all was well with the stove. He tested the oven at the 350 degree setting.
This morning I wanted to use the oven at 200 degrees. The kitchen and other rooms filled with gas fumes. We looked at the stove carefully and did some tests with a watch with a second hand. There are times when the electric heating elements are on, gas is audibly being released, but ignition does not occur for more than 4 minutes. There also appear to be times when more gas is being released than is being burned. So far, no explosions have occurred.
6) I am observing that the shiny metal racks in the oven are changing color, first becoming iridescent and then dark. They are not dirty, this is some reaction to being heated and cooled. And this is an oven that has barely been used. This is probably not a problem I would complain about if everything else was ok with the stove, but that is not the case.
Further considerations of item 3) When I place an oven thermometer in the oven it registers about 75 degrees cooler than the temperature recorded on the digital board at the top of the stove. This is definitely unacceptable. When we called the dealer about this, he insisted that the problem was with the thermometer we had purchased and that unless the difference was more than 100 degrees nothing would be done about it. This is his position even though everything in my extensive baking experience demonstrates to me that this oven is nowhere near reaching the temperature settings indicated. Everything cooks too slowly.
So to conclude, this stove has 4 problems that are not too large taken individually.
a. front burner ignition is temperamental
b. oven racks turning color
c. warming oven doesn't warm
d. service contractor wont set reasonable appointments
And two problems that run in the range from unacceptable to hazardous.
a. thermostat is inaccurate by about 75 degrees
b. oven fails to ignite all gas released Oh yes, the dealer said that to qualify as a lemon there would have to be at least 8 problems.
You may well believe that I am a dissatisfied customer.