All I wanted was to find a place to have an upper denture made. I have dealt with denturists back home in Oregon and Washington State, so this was what I had searched for. Boy, was I sorry when I found a webpage for Affordable Dentures. Here is what happened.
Monday, June 6, 2011
I called the Affordable Denture number, from the internet, for Dr. Alexis (607-797-5400), and spoke with her receptionist. She stated that I could get a same- day denture with no problem, and that they are used to servicing people from long distances. When I asked to make an appointment, I was told it is on a first come, first serve basis and no appointment was necessary. As long as I arrive between 7:45 and 8:30, I would be seen.
Tuesday, June 7, 2011
I had to take the entire day off from work and drove from Middlebury Center to Dr. Chukym Alexis-Johnson DDS office in Vestal NY, arriving at 7:45 am. I was called back around 8:00 and picked my denture (premium), tooth color A1, and had my impressions taken and an X-ray. I was told I would be called back around 9:00 to look at my first initial denture (in wax). I was called back at approximately 10:30 and we had to adjust some of the front teeth, as they were too long. The denturist actually had to come out and look at what we were talking about, and also asked me not to bite down to hard as they were wax and it was moving the teeth. The initial wax mold then looked good, and I was told to be back at the office at 2:30 for my final fitting.
I returned to the office and waited until after 4:00 to be seen for my final fitting. The dental assistant had me try them on, and they did not fit right, there was also a lot of acrylic material on the actual teeth. She took the teeth back to the lab, and they cleaned some of the acrylic off the teeth, but not enough. She again took them back, and they removed more material from the teeth themselves. They still did not fit right, and I told the dentist. The dental assistant stated that the teeth are usually kind of loose in the back because they don't want too much material in the back. I told her this is not right, that I have worn dentures for over 20 years, and I know how they should fit. They are too loose. The dentist took the teeth to a counter and did a chair side reline. It took about 10 minutes for the material to set up, and she then took them and began to remove the excessive material. She herself found some acrylic on the teeth and had the denturist remove it. The denture fit much better. I left the office about 5:15 pm.
Wednesday, June 8, 2011
At approximately 10:45 am, while at my office, the left front tooth fell out of the denture. I had bitten down on a piece of chocolate (dove), and the tooth just came out. I called the dentist office, and she said that I would need to come in and that no appointment was necessary. I told her I was not sure when I could come as I would have to take time off work to do so, and she said this was fine.
Friday, June 17, 2011
I again took the day off from work and traveled an hour to the dentist's office. I spoke with the receptionist, who took the denture, and said to return at 3:00, and it should be done. I made the statement that "You mean I have to remain here all day just to have this fixed?" and she said, "Unfortunately yes!". I wasn't happy but again spent time having to eat out and wait around. At around 3:15, I called up to the window and given my denture back. The receptionist said wait as they usually call you back and make sure it's okay. She went and found the dentist, and they called me back. She made sure it fit. I again pointed out some acrylic down on the teeth which she had to remove. I also questioned that when my tooth fell out I cut my gum on the rough acrylic they had between the teeth. I questioned my concern to her that I am afraid that they have stuck the teeth in with a little acrylic between the teeth, and yet my old ones had a more defined gum line and had no acrylic between the teeth. She said she is not sure what I am talking about, and that a denture is made of acrylic. She stated that if they remove any more, the teeth will all fall out. I was made to feel I was being unreasonable, accepted the teeth, and left.
Monday, June 20, 2011
Approximately 8:30 pm, I confirmed that now the right front tooth is loose.
Tuesday, June 21, 9:00 am
I called Dr. Alexis' office again and spoke with Kelly. She said I could come in anytime to have my denture fixed again, and I told her, "No, I cannot take another day off work to have this fixed especially when it was due to the product being faulty". I asked to discuss getting a refund. She took my name and work number, as the doctor was in with a patient, and said she will pull the chart and have the doctor call me. I told her I was available before 10:30 and after 12:00 for a call, as I had meetings.
Tuesday, June 21, 9:05 am
I called my dental insurance office, as I had requested Dr. Alexis-Johnsons office to submit a claim for the dentures. They forgot to do this at my initial visit and had me pay the full amount due of $665.00. I spoke with Barbara, and she said they have not submitted a claim for either visit, but they did submit for an implant estimate.
Tuesday, June 21, 10:10 am
Kelly called me at my office and stated that the doctor does not call patients back, she is just way too busy. She said that the doctor does not have a problem refunding, but I will have to be seen in the office. I asked, at this point, if I could send the dentures by registered mail or return receipt. Kelly said "No, it is the policy to see the doctor and find out what exactly is wrong with the dentures". I asked if she was going to pay my lost wages for the day and Kelly said, "No, if they have an appointment, no one pays their wages. I told her that I already took 2 days off to go to her office, and that one of those days was to have the defective denture fixed because a tooth fell out, and I had to spend a whole day up there to have it repaired. I told her I cannot take another day off as I lose approximately $165.00 a day. She said that I have to come in. I said I will not be in and that I would seek legal counsel if needed. I then said, "Thank you, good bye!", and hung up.
Tuesday, June 21, 11:49 am
I called the Customer Concern line at Affordable Dentures (1-800-336-8873), and no one spoke and the call was dropped. At 11:50am, I again called 1-800-336-8873 and this time Sandra answered. She took my personal information and details of what happened, to file a concern. She confirmed back to me my name, birth date, phone, short summary details of my concern, and my call back. Sandra stated she will send the concern, and someone will contact the dentist and then contact me back at my office.
Friday, June 24, 3:40pm
I had not heard back from anyone, so I again called 1-800-336-8873 and this time spoke with Gale. When she checked for my claim, she was not able to find anything on my claim of concern. She said they had difficulties on that Tuesday and the phones and database had went down that day. She took my zip code and information again. Gale said that a patient concern specialist will pick this up and call the doctor, and then call me. She said she will turn this in and make sure it goes before we hang up. I told her I was requesting to have a full refund of all charges and my X-ray. I also asked for a claim number but she said they don't have either a claim number or identifier. She also could not tell me a timeline of when I would be contacted.
Saturday, July 2
I received, by regular mail, a document to sign agreeing to a refund of $540.00, and to return the dentures. I did not agree to this and kept the document.
Thursday, July 7, 10:15 am
I called the Customer Concern line of 1-800-336-8873 again and spoke with Cindy. She explained again the process they follow, and I had to explain to her that no one has called me. I told her I would like to please speak with a supervisor. She then started looking in the system and indicated it appeared someone had contacted me. I told her no one had contacted me other than sending me something in the mail. She then said she was trying to figure out who to send me too. She then asked for my zip code, and based on that, said she was transferring me to Supervisor Tina **.
I received the voice mail box of Tina **, and I left a message explaining what had happened, that I did receive a letter from the dental office offering a refund of $570.00. But as I paid $665.00 and had time loss from work for a subpar denture, I felt this was not acceptable. I said I should be given a full refund and have my X-ray returned to me. I requested a call back that day, July 7, 2011, by close of business.
Thursday, July 7, 1:36 pm
Tina called to say that the dental office told her they did try to contact me, by both phone and mail. They said they left a message for me on June 27. I told Tina that no one left me a message, either at my home or office. I told Tina they did mail me a document for a refund and that I paid $665.00. That is the amount I want to be refunded, along with my x-ray, for my troubles. Tina stated this is up to the doctor, as she can't make that determination. I told her I understood. Tina said she would contact the doctor, and then contact me back.
Friday, July 8, 1:40pm
Tina called me and from Affordable Dentures and after speaking with the doctor said the following: The refund is for $570.00. They charged me $70.00 for the X-ray and if I want a copy, this will cost me $25.00. They also charged me $25.00 for an office visit. This is what the doctor told her, I thanked her for her time, and we ended the call.
I feel this is worth pursuing, as I am afraid of the numerous individuals that have been made to feel they have no choice but to be at this doctor's mercy. 1. Because they need teeth so bad or, 2. they have such limited funds that they can't leave them tied up waiting on a resolution. I am now going to find another dental office to make a denture, again take time off my job, and go through fittings again. The staff was nice as long as you were spending money but once they got it you were done. I do not feel this office provides a quality product, and it worries me because I purchased the premium denture and have some experience with them, what are individuals going through that are inexperienced. I think the concept of same-day dentures is great, if they can be made with the consumer in mind, and not how many people can be pushed through so you make a buck.
And if you call the Affordable Dentures 800 Customer Concern Line, it will do you no good, all they do is call the dentist, and I had already done that myself.
Thank you,
Dianna **