
Tina of Jaffrey, NH on Nov. 19, 2010
My husband and I have gone through very similar circumstances with PHH. We called them back in the middle of August 2010 and asked if they did modifications. We were told no! We explained to them that we had some repairs to the house that cannot be avoided. We live in a 200-year-old small farmhouse. My gosh! There was so many issues that I don't even know where to begin. So, I will begin with where we started in the house. The only bathroom in the house had serious rotting around the toilet so much so that the only thing holding the toilet was the pipe under the toilet leading into the basement. There was so much rotting in the bathroom alone that we had no choice but to tear up the entire floor and replace the entire bathroom. The wiring was so old that we noticed that if we tapped on the wall next to outlets that it will cause a huge arc which is very dangerous.
When we tried to replace light fixtures, the old wiring was just falling apart. We had no choice but to replace the old wiring in the house for fear of an electrical fire. Then there was the old heating system that had actually blown a hole last winter in the back of the old steam furnace, not to mention the asbestos on all of the pipes in the basement was literally falling off the pipes! This house had no sub-flooring whatsoever. When the basement would get wet every spring, we could smell mold through out the house. So I can only imagine what kind of exposure we all had to that asbestos! So we had to remove the asbestos safely. By the way, my husband grew up in carpentry so most of the work that had to be done got done by me and him. All we paid for was the material. Keep in mind that we hadn't yet put in the heating system.
We also had no choice but to replace all the old plumbing. We were lucky that we have a close friend who is a plumber who came in and did all of this for us at cost. We figured that seeing as though the house had been appraised back in 2008 for $227,000.00 before any of these improvements had taken place, that we would have been just fine refinancing even if the housing market wasn't doing so well. These were huge improvements after all. So we finished much of the work and we found another mortgage company that had 4.5% interest rate and started working with them to get things moving. The entire time keeping up with our mortgage payments! The name of the company that we were setting out to refinance through was PFP Wholesale. My husband was the one who found them.
As soon as I saw the name of the company, I got a little nervous and expressed it to my husband who in turn assured me that everything was just fine. The guy, called Kerry, that he had been dealing with everyday at least twice a day to see if he had gotten all of his paperwork done and to get it faxed over ASAP. So we did. Then he got it to the underwriters and told us that everything looks great. Then he proceeded to tell my husband not to pay September's mortgage payment that I won't need to and because Kerry's truck was going to get paid off as well, that he didn't need to pay September payment for the truck either. This is where everything went downhill. It gets much worse. So this guy calls Kerry back and tells him that he will be sending an appraiser in the next couple of days. Kerry then said, "Is it going to be okay that the kitchen is not finished?". The guy replied, "Does it look like a kitchen?" Kerry said, "Well, yes!". He then said, "Don't worry about it". Then he calls back the day before the appraiser is to come and tells Kerry that he just found out that whatever is not finished in the house will be considered unfinished in the report. We then began the panic. We not only had an unfinished kitchen but no heat!
So we had to call the appraiser and tell her our situation and ask her to come another day. She agreed but only gave us a week. So we scrambled and spent every penny we had to get everything finished. We literally worked on the house right up to the very last half hour that we thought we had before she was going to show up. Just as we get ready to clean up the huge mess, we had the appraiser shows up a half an hour early! So while her and my husband goes around the house, I am cleaning up like crazy! This woman proceeded to tell us that not only is she an appraiser but she and her husband buy houses and flip them. At one point, I noticed that one of the light fixtures is not up so I run into the kitchen to get the light fixture and hand it to my husband just as I do that, she proceeds to take a photo, I am in her way, and she screams at me and says, "Get out of the way!" That is when I just walked away and stayed out of the way.
When she was done, she asked us if we would ever be interested in selling. We both said, "No!" Now, keep in mind that in 2008 with no work whatsoever done on the house, we refinanced the house through our bank that we do our regular banking through the appraised house at $227,000.00. We took out $178.000.00 to consolidate our bills. Thinking back now, we should have known something wasn't right. Not only did they not send an appraiser and when asked how they came up with $227,000.00 without an appraiser, they stated they did a market analysis. They also never asked for bank statements or pay stubs. When the time came to close on the loan, we noticed that the loan was not through our bank but through this company called PHH. We asked how what this was all about and they said, "Oh, we sold the loan to PHH".
Now, back to the appraisal, a couple of days later, they come back and say that they are having a hard time trying to find any house to compare to ours. That it will take a few more days. Eight days later, we get the appraisal and we were completely dumbfounded. First she stated so many wrong things on her report and appraised the house way under what we even owe on it. She came in at $146,000.00! So, now here we are, one payment behind and broke! We can't pay our truck or our mortgage. So we called PHH back, told them everything, and asked what we can do to fix this. They told us that we can just refinance through them. So again! We had to go through all the paper work and then pay for them to send out another appraiser, who came out only two weeks after the first one, and then appraised it even lower than the first appraiser!
Now at this point, we are two payments behind. So we call PHH again. Bu the way, the phone service these people have is awful! You spend hours at a time on the phone being put on hold and transferred from person to person. It was after we had become two payments behind that we were told that we could do a modification! We were very upset with them! We let them have it! We told them that we came to them before we were even behind and asked if they did modifications and was told no! So they did this interview over the phone and then we were told that we indeed qualify and that they have some paperwork that they will send and to please look it over and make sure everything is correct.
In the mean time, they would get everything in motion and we would have a new payment paying only 2% for the next five years. Dropping our payment considerably, we finally had hope. Then the paper work shows up and it's like we are refinancing all over again. We had to fill out all of this paperwork and then send them all the same information we just had for the refinance. We were not prepared for that. We were made to believe that everything was already said and done. Then the phone calls started, demanding payment. When we told them that we were in the middle of doing the modification, The Obama Plan, they said that it would take up to 60-90 days to get approved! What?
So, day after day, we are calling, trying to find out what the heck is going on, getting shoved from one person to another, hour after hour! At this point, we are being told that in order to be approved we have to get caught up on our payments. Which they needed right away, one payment and half of another. We were like, "Are you people crazy! We are coming to you for help because we can't pay and now you want more out of us!?" So we told them that we have no choice but to do a short sale. It was then that they told us that our house is set for foreclosure but that we could fill out the paper work for the short sale and that it will stop the foreclosure!
After reading all of the complaints, I see that there is no hope of working with PHH to find an ethical way of getting out of this ordeal! I have decided to send this file of complaints to Glenn **** in hopes of this getting out into the media. He's as honest of a man, I know, and I pray this will spark his interest for all involved. I came across a tragic story that Fox News had posted on the internet about a woman who committed suicide in her home that PHH was getting ready to auction off in a couple of hours. After what we have been through with PHH and after seeing what all of you folks have been through, I have no doubt this poor woman was facing the same set of circumstances we all have been facing with PHH and still continue to face.