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Patrick of Verona, WI, writes:
In September 1999 I contacted this company for financing of my small business based on reviewing their Web site. After submitting initial information, I was advised that I was approved for an $80,000 loan but there was a $4,500 "facilitation fee."

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My entire file would have to be reviewed to totally understand what happened over the next six months but I ended up foolishly paying over $50,000 in "fees" to this individual all the while being told the financing (up to $500,000) was "just around the corner." He even provided a "formal commitment letter" via fax (not mail) that I furnished to my bankers and vendors.

I lost over $50,000 in funds, causing economic and reputation damage to me and my business.

The Web site for GeneraLogistics promises "creative financing" for small businesses unable to qualify for a "conventional" loan or investment. Whenever you hear "creative" and "financing" in the same sentence, it's a good idea to go read something else.

 


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March 18, 2000

Dear ConsumerAffairs.Com:
I became aware that you have posted information on my business without first getting our side of the story. It would be logical to assume there are two sides to evey story, which should be reviewed prior to placing such negative information on-line about a company you obviously know nothing about.

My attorney's (sic) will be given this information for possible recourse. In references to Patrick N, we are sorry he chose to pull out days before funding, due in part to his wife's advice to do so. It is funny that those who complain and act as if they are a victim, spend more than ample time checking us out and our references, prior to proceeding.

GeneraLogistics, Inc. works with each client on an individual basis and works to please everyone. For a formal statement contact me personally, otherwise retract the information immediately or face legal actions. A professional reply is hereby requested and appreciated.
Johnny Giles
President/CEO GeneraLogistics, Inc.

 

Michael B, a real estate developer in Valrico, FL, writes:
While searching for project funding, I found an ad in the classified section of "Excite.com". I responded to this ad, and was contact by telephone, email, and fax, by Johnny B. Giles, President and CEO of Generalogistics, Inc. After several conversations, and review and brochures sent by Mr. Giles, as well as a check of public records in the state of north carolina, I decided to prodceed. I also asked for references of other clients that his company successfully provided funding for.

I was given the names of two people that were supposed to be references.

1)Keith E., who claimed to be an officer in JCM Productions, Inc. located in Cleveland, Ohio. I checked to see if JCM Productions, Inc. even existed, using the public records search there, and found that it did. John M. was listed as the corporate officer. I also tried to reach him by telephone but his number is disconnected. I later found out that Mr. E is employed by Mr. Giles, and Generalogistics, Inc. either directly or as a subcontractor. I also have email message from him admitting this. Mr. E claimed to have received funding for concert promotions in the amount of $200,000.00, $150,000.00, and a credit line of $2,500,000.00

2) A. Lucas. of Lucas International, Ms. Lucas said she was a antique dealer in Charlotte, NC. I could not find any information to support this, no corporate records, no telephone listings, etc. Ms. Lucas claimed that she got the business from her father, and could not explain why there was no corporate record of her company. She claimed to have received funding from Generalogisticsin the amount of $300,000.00 and a credit line of $750,000.00. I later found that there is no listing for Ms. A. Lucas either, but was able to find a C. Lucas, telephone number unlisted, as is the number for Ms. Lucas, and the strangest thing is that C. Lucas, resides at the same address in Charlotte, NC as the office address of Johnny B. Giles and Generalogistics, Inc.

When I decided to proceed with Mr. Giles, and Generalogistics, Mr. Giles, called and emailed me regularly, especially when it involved the need for more money. Upon reviewing my executive statement, Mr. Giles, sent me a contract and loan committment for $2,500,000. I was to send him information listed in his package, and a initial fascilitation fee of $7,500.00, with the potential for additional fees over the course of the processing of another $7,500.00 and not to exceed $10,000.00. This was in December of 1999. I thought about this and had planned on a vacation to ring in Key West. I decided to wait till we returned and think about whether I wanted to send this money or not, between 12/16/99 and our return on 1/4/00 Mr. Giles sent me numerous email and telephone messages insisting that I hurry and send in my fee and paper work, because he had some moany investors that wanted to avoid capital gains, and were interested in my project. He continually reminded me that his company had 100% success rate.

Upon speaking with Mr. Giles again I explained that I had another investor, that I have done nearly $2,500,000 worth of loans within the past and that although their loan structure was different they could close this loan for me by January 31, 2000. He expressed his belief that he could as well, but if he couldn't it would be no longer than early February. I decided to use Mr. Giles, service with Generalogistics, Inc. I sent Generalogistics, Inc. the intial $7,500 and all the requested paperwork. I finalized my contract with the sellers of the subdivision, and gave myself til febrauay 15, 2000 to close the deal with them, giving them a sizeable deposit on the property.

During the next 30 days Mr. Giles would contact me and request additional monies, most of the time he would not explain there intended uses, except to say that they were to fascilitate the contract, currently being prepared by his attorney. That this was a very expensive process, and that he had to continually pay him more money, to move it along. Mr. Giles, also explained the one of the request and part of another were to be used for travel expenses for him and the investor that had committed the entire amount to my project, to travel to Florida to view the property. On another two occasions mr. Giles said the additional money requested was for the transfer of funds from the investors account in the British West Indies, to his account so that we could close within a few days. On two different occasions Mr. Giles request for money was to be the "final" requirement to close this loan, although after both of the "final" requirement requests, he later requested more money. Mr. Giles also once requested an additonal payment of $3,200 to finalize the contract with the attorney, this was on February 16th, 2000, past our origianl deadline. When I questioned this request he said that if I were willing to send $6,000 instead of the $3,200 he could guarantee the completion of the contract and closing within a few days. He also stated he would send a new letter of intent, to this. His original letter of intent was for February 15th, 2000. Or if I decided not to send the additonal money he would put my file on the back burner and we could proceed later.

This was a real delimna, because by this time I had already sent him $26,800, $9,300 more than the total required in Mr. Giles' original comittment. Foolishly I sent him the $6,000. I never received the updated letter of intent.

Mr. Giles also contacted the sellers of the property and assured them that he was preparing to close this loan with me, that he just needed a few more days. At this point Mr. Giles disconnected his mobile telephone, thereby eliminating any method of direct contact with him. Mr. Giles would not return my telephone calls to his voice mail, or his answering service, he rarely answered my emails, accept with token messages, that said was out of town, or have been bus, will get back with update later. Later never came.

Mr. Giles later again requested more money, each time I questioned it he said either it was the final requirement, and that we would be closing on March 16th, 2000, or if I didn't send the money he would sit on my loan and its closing. Mr. Giles was well aware that I had to also pay the sellers an additonal amount of money to extend our contract to March 15th, 2000. He demanded I send the last installment and said I would get another letter of intent to give my sellers, that we would close on march 16th, 2000. I again, foolishly sent the money, and again never received the promised documents.

In the days preceeding March 16h, 2000, I sent Mr. Giles, numerous email, voice mails, and answering service messages, informing him that the March 16th, 2000 was just a few days away and that I had not yet received the closing documents, and that the title company, the sellers, and their bank needed to know for sure that we would be closing, so as to schedule the appropriate time for the closing. Only after I sent him an unpleasant email did he respond that he thought he should rethink his committment, that he could not understand why we were in such a hurry to close. At this point I also was speaking to Mr. E,who I have found out is now the CFO for Generalogistics. He appeared to be interested in finding out why Mr. Giles would not communicate, and what was going on, although Mr. E also did not respond when he said he would.

I decided to dig deeper and find out more about Mr. Giles, and Generalogistics, Inc. That is when I found your site. I also arranged to meet Mr. E while he was in Florida, visitng a sick relative, that was on March 15th, 2000. I also decided to contact the FBI, and the FDLE, Fla. Dept. Of Law Enforcement. Apparently they made some calls, and I received a fax from Mr. Giles, saying that I needed to fear his recourse, and that I couldn't touch him. During the course of this from January 5th, 2000 through March 7th, 2000, I sent Mr. Giles, and Generalogistics, Inc. $38,800. $21,300 more than it was supposed to cost to fascilitate this loan. During this time Mr. Giles continually made false statements as to the use of these funds, and to the result of providing them. These funds were delivered via, Federal Express, bank wire transfer , and Western Union money transfer.

Upon contacting Western Union to get informationon about who received the money transfers, the WU agent told me she contacted "Checks Etc. #2", the place where mr. Giles picked up both money transfes sent via Western Union. The agent at "Checks Etc. #2", said that Mr. Giles is always in there picking up money being sent by people all over. This leads me to believe that there are more victims out there. I have provided this information to the FBI and the FDLE. I also plan to contact the Hillsborough County, Florida sheriffs dept and the Mecklinburg County, North Carolina, sheriffs dept.

I am also planning on taking out ads in the Wall Street Journal, and Investor Business Weekly, Mr. Giles also advertises in these papers.

My total financial loss to Generalogistics, Inc. was $38,800, the cost to send then this money $1,000, the money spent to bind the property, $50,000, signage for the property, our reputation in our community is tarnished.

 

 

March 22, 2000

Dear Mr. B,
Since your behavior and actions have not changed, both within e-mail communications as well as outside, I must indicate there is little more to discuss and leave it to the due process, which will include your attorney contacting my attorney, once a review has been completed. I am sorry you continue to approach this situation negatively and without any regard for the results your actions have caused. Unless there are other key points you wish to make, there is nothing left for myself or my firm to say.
Sincerely,
Johnny Giles,
President/CEO Generalogistics, Inc.

 

March 23, 2000

To Michael B:
All of your communications and concerns have been noted and documented. I fully understand your frustrations and anger, however note we are currently looking into a possible solution to this situation. In an in depth meeting with my Attorney, Eric, he has agreed to take care of any complaints we may have and assist us in resolving them professionally.

Please take note of the following, since it would seem logical for you to do so at this point; Continued threats against myself, my employees or my firm will not result in anything positive! Any actions against myself or my firm, will only be handled legally and will not immediately benefit your position!

We have not ripped you off, conned you, or scammed you and the very indication that we have, puts us in a more defensive mode, taking longer and longer to resolve a small matter which we can easily do! With regard to you becoming aware of other complaints made against our firm, I am pleased to say that over the last 4 years, we have only had a small hand full and you have but only one side of the story!

No matter what you think you know about myself and my firm, bare in mind that it is feasible that you are in error, with your current views and have allowed your emotions to take control. These things may not stop you from doing what you are doing, with regard to slander and libel against myself and my firm, but do take note of them for future reference. GeneraLogistics, Inc. never sets out to fail, nor to mislead or misrepresent ourselves.

A formal reply will be prepared by my attorney and at that point you and your representatives can negotiate through him. His full name, address, phone, fax will be given to you upon completion of his initial review. In closing, this is my formal position; I do not like the comments and complaints you have made against myself and my firm, however I do understand your position to a certain point.

The reasons behind my understanding, is due in part to your lack of understanding associated with why things went the way they did. You feel cheated, mislead and lied to, all of which is no more than a point of view. Like you, I will do anything to protect my interests and that of my team and my company! Keep this in mind as you continue your assault, since it will bring forth a result, one that may not serve you too well!

Sincerely,
Johnny Giles
President/CEO GeneraLogistics, Inc. http://www.generalogistics.com

 

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